Author Topic: The Siglent SDG1000 and SDG800 thread (Read 168669 times)

Macbeth · « **Reply #175 on:** July 06, 2015, 07:14:01 pm »

Quote from: Lightages on July 06, 2015, 05:40:06 pm

The 50Mhz model costs so much more than the 25Mhz model in scale compared to the other upgrades. I would guess that there is a difference in hardware for that jump.

Don't forget the SDG1050 is only 50MHz on the sine wave function, everything else is the same as the SDG1025, including maximum 25MHz square wave. A square wave is the fundamental sine wave + odd harmonics, the first of which is 75MHz at 1/3rd the amplitude, so I would imagine a 50MHz sine is easily achievable on equipment that can produce square waves up to 25MHz. A 16.66MHz square wave will be generating a 50MHz sine (+ 83.33, 116.66, etc..)

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I also see empty locations for parts and cable connectors on mine. I wonder what they are for?

You know what, I've not even teared it apaaart yet! But I know you can replace the crystal with an OCXO easily enough, space is provided for that. Other headers could be for JTAG and serial. Perhaps they envisaged a LAN/GPIB option board too? or maybe the SA1010 power amplifier add-on was originally intended as an internal upgrade?

rf-loop · « **Reply #176 on:** July 06, 2015, 09:39:49 pm »

Quote from: tautech on July 06, 2015, 07:58:25 am

Could it be a new AWG......possibly with BW upgrades.

New AWG is coming but it looks different. Series 2000X (and slso 2000E)
(also coming SDS1000X series oscilloscopes)
I do not have any signs about new AWG what looks 1000 series. (of course it is possible there is coming also something like 1000X but is is just free speculation)

@tautech Have you noted that new SDG1000 generators serial numbers do not anymore tell model! ? (model is only hand check on the carton label but serial do not have any sign about model, same in some oscilloscopes... (perhaps it is sign about something is changing...

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SDG2000X "TrueArb"

tautech · « **Reply #177 on:** July 07, 2015, 02:45:34 am »

Quote from: rf-loop on July 06, 2015, 09:39:49 pm

@tautech Have you noted that new SDG1000 generators serial numbers do not anymore tell model! ? (model is only hand check on the carton label but serial do not have any sign about model, same in some oscilloscopes... (perhaps it is sign about something is changing... )

Not specifically, but I had noticed some letters in SNs that had not been present before.
What they signify I have no idea.

I'd love it if we could stock less inventory and configure units to customer's requirements but unless someone cracks BW configuration I won't hold my breath waiting for Siglent to allow us do this.

tautech · « **Reply #178 on:** July 08, 2015, 10:06:30 am »

Just had notifcation of new FW for the SDG1000 series.

Summary of Changes:
added boot up language selection
added bandwidth update option
fixed the Sweep error

http://siglentamerica.com/download/software/SDG1000-V100R001B01D01P37R3.rar

(811 Kb)

Macbeth · « **Reply #179 on:** July 08, 2015, 10:33:29 am »

Quote from: tautech on July 08, 2015, 10:06:30 am

Summary of Changes:
added boot up language selection
added bandwidth update option
fixed the Sweep error

They seem to be the changes in the last update... I can confirm this update gets rid of the boot up language

... and they haven't removed the bandwidth update option

ivan747 · « **Reply #180 on:** July 08, 2015, 01:22:38 pm »

Hmmm. What sweep problem did they correct, exactly?

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tautech · « **Reply #181 on:** July 09, 2015, 05:49:12 am »

New update for the SDG800 series

Summary of Changes:
added bandwidth update option
fixed an bug of Easypulse (Missing pulses/cycles)

http://siglentamerica.com/download/software/SDG800 V100R008B01D01P09R1.rar

(11.1 Mb)

ivan747 · « **Reply #182 on:** July 09, 2015, 01:09:06 pm »

Looking good... I'll give it a try this weekend. Is anybody sure what was the sweep bug they fixed?

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nctnico · « **Reply #183 on:** July 09, 2015, 10:21:43 pm »

Quote from: tautech on July 08, 2015, 10:06:30 am

Just had notifcation of new FW for the SDG1000 series.

Summary of Changes:
added boot up language selection
added bandwidth update option
fixed the Sweep error

http://siglentamerica.com/download/software/SDG1000-V100R001B01D01P37R3.rar

I don't know what they fixed about the sweep. The log sweep for wide ranges in a short timespan (10kHz to 1MHz in 1s for example) still makes no sense at all.

ivan747 · « **Reply #184 on:** July 09, 2015, 11:00:47 pm »

Quote from: nctnico on July 09, 2015, 10:21:43 pm

Quote from: tautech on July 08, 2015, 10:06:30 am
Just had notifcation of new FW for the SDG1000 series.

Summary of Changes:
added boot up language selection
added bandwidth update option
fixed the Sweep error

http://siglentamerica.com/download/software/SDG1000-V100R001B01D01P37R3.rar
I don't know what they fixed about the sweep. The log sweep for wide ranges in a short timespan (10kHz to 1MHz in 1s for example) still makes no sense at all.

Yeah. There's a bug that happens when you have a very wide logarithmic frequency span, where the low frequency changes basically look like big steps that get smaller as frequency increases. It probably happens because they make the frequency steps linearly and then apply the log, instead of spacing the frequency steps logarithmically. I haven't thought it enough, though. I'll take a screenshot so that you can see.

nctnico · « **Reply #185 on:** July 09, 2015, 11:46:25 pm »

I know exactly what you mean. I've seen it as well in my previous tests.

Owen · « **Reply #186 on:** July 11, 2015, 07:12:41 am »

Quote from: tautech on July 08, 2015, 10:06:30 am

Just had notifcation of new FW for the SDG1000 series.

Summary of Changes:
added boot up language selection
added bandwidth update option
fixed the Sweep error

http://siglentamerica.com/download/software/SDG1000-V100R001B01D01P37R3.rar

This updates still shows language selection on every single boot up

. So i don't think they've fixed it?

Lightages · « **Reply #187 on:** July 11, 2015, 07:15:39 am »

The language selection at start up is one of the most annoying "features" I have ever seen. They REALLY NEED to get rid of this silly and unprofessional function. It really pisses me off each time I power up my SDG and Siglent needs to rethink this.

tautech · « **Reply #188 on:** July 11, 2015, 08:27:12 am »

Quote from: Lightages on July 11, 2015, 07:15:39 am

The language selection at start up is one of the most annoying "features" I have ever seen. They REALLY NEED to get rid of this silly and unprofessional function. It really pisses me off each time I power up my SDG and Siglent needs to rethink this.

Yet Macbeth said it had gone for him.

Quote from: Macbeth on July 08, 2015, 10:33:29 am

Quote from: tautech on July 08, 2015, 10:06:30 am
Summary of Changes:
added boot up language selection
added bandwidth update option
fixed the Sweep error
They seem to be the changes in the last update... I can confirm this update gets rid of the boot up language ... and they haven't removed the bandwidth update option

Lightages · « **Reply #189 on:** July 11, 2015, 08:30:12 am »

I just did the update and it still is there. I like my SDG and I have been generally happy with Siglent support, but this is like being poked with an cattle prod each time you power on. Really they need to kill this "feature" as it is seen as an annoyance each time I start up my Siglent SDG. Not good advertising.

tautech · « **Reply #190 on:** July 11, 2015, 08:44:51 am »

But let me confirm for myself on 1000 & 800 units that I have in stock that Language selection is still there after these recent updates.....be an hour or so.
Have some

while you wait.

tautech · « **Reply #191 on:** July 11, 2015, 09:31:11 am »

SDG1000 series FW update ***37R2 DOES remove the boot up Language selection option.

SDG1010
HW 02.00.00.23.24
Build date 2/13

tautech · « **Reply #192 on:** July 11, 2015, 10:02:33 am »

SDG805 NIB
FW 1.08.01.08
HW 02.00.00.04.00
Build 2/15
NO Language selection option appeared at FIRST boot.

Updated to ****.09R1
NO Language selection option on boot.

NOTE
The update Reademe file DOES NOT accurately describe the update process.

In short, the .ADS update file, when highlighted by user selection, is then RECALL'ed and the update takes place.
Only the description of the RECALL selection is missing from the Readme file.

This is described in line 5 of the upgrade explanation(instructions) but "read" is printed not RECALL.

Confirmation of sucessfull update can be seen in the "Edit Info" selection in the Utitility menu.

f1rmb · « **Reply #193 on:** July 11, 2015, 10:54:06 am »

Quote from: tautech on July 11, 2015, 09:31:11 am

SDG1000 series FW update ***37R2 DOES remove the boot up Language selection option.

SDG1010
HW 02.00.00.23.24
Build date 2/13

Hi Tautech,

Sorry, but language selection appears in 37R2 and 37R3.
SDG1025
HW: 02.00.00.23.26

I also agree that language selection is just a pain in the ass...

Cheers.
---
Daniel

ivan747 · « **Reply #194 on:** July 11, 2015, 12:13:50 pm »

If you set the generator to remember your waveform settings from last time, does it still ask you for a language at startup?

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Macbeth · « **Reply #195 on:** July 11, 2015, 01:14:20 pm »

I'm definitely using update 37R3 on my SDG1025 and don't have to select the language at power on.

After installing the update, re-booting and selecting the correct language, you have to make sure you have Utility > System > PowerOn set to Last, not Default, for it to work. I believe this is the same behaviour as the other SDG series.

ivan747 · « **Reply #196 on:** July 11, 2015, 01:30:33 pm »

That actually makes a lot of sense one reason:
This product was designed by the Chinese. This default power on function is very useful in academic settings or situations where there are many users for the same instrument. Not all of them will speak both English and Chinese well enough. (for example foreign students at uni or engineers at a multinational company). So it makes sense IN CHINA to have the language selection included in the defaults.

Since Chinese is mostly only spoken in China, this feature is annoying on the rest of the world.

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ivan747 · « **Reply #197 on:** July 11, 2015, 01:36:10 pm »

Well, chinese is also spoken in a handful of other countries, but it is limited to that region, really. English is very widespread around the world. They should add spanish, french, portuguese and german and they will be covering a big part of Europe, the Americas and even a large segment of Africa with just 5 (incl. english) languages.

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f1rmb · « **Reply #198 on:** July 11, 2015, 02:05:03 pm »

Quote from: Macbeth on July 11, 2015, 01:14:20 pm

I'm definitely using update 37R3 on my SDG1025 and don't have to select the language at power on.

After installing the update, re-booting and selecting the correct language, you have to make sure you have Utility > System > PowerOn set to Last, not Default, for it to work. I believe this is the same behaviour as the other SDG series.

I'll check that later today, or tomorrow.

Cheers.
---
Daniel

RobinM · « **Reply #199 on:** July 11, 2015, 11:06:04 pm »

Quote from: Macbeth on July 08, 2015, 10:33:29 am

They seem to be the changes in the last update... I can confirm this update gets rid of the boot up language ... and they haven't removed the bandwidth update option

Same here - going from 37R2 to 37R3 removed the boot-up language prompt for me too.


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