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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #725 on: March 28, 2023, 10:48:20 pm »
I received a CSA7404B without a HDD, so I'm in the process of setting that up. I received the OS restore ISOs from Tektronix for my particular unit (they indicated this is BIOS revision number specific). The installation appears to work - it completes and doesn't throw any errors. However, I'm not able to reboot into the HDD. The screen goes dark after the "Tektronix Enabling Innovation" display and doesn't give any indication that anything is happening.

I attached a serial port to the PPC board and see the following boot up log:

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romPost: I am alive .


uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


romPost: L2 cache turned on.

romPost: MPC107
romPost: I am alive .


uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


romPost: L2 cache turned on.

romPost: MPC107  Walking-one passed.

romPost: MPC107 configuration passed.

romPost: Intel21555 PCITOPCI bridge configuration passed.


romPost: PERFORMING ROM CHECKSUM TEST...

romPost: ROM checksum passed.


romPost: PERFORMING DRAM CELL TEST...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.

romPost: DRAM Cell test passed.

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE OFF...
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE ON...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: DRAM Walking-one test passed.

romPost: PERFORMING NV-MEMORY WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: NV-MEMORY Walking-one test passed.
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.

romPost: POWER-UP DIAGNOSTIC COMPLETE.

Hel










                            VxWorks System Boot


Copyright 1984-1996  Wind River Systems, Inc.





CPU: Tektronix HPP - IBM 750CXe
Version: 5.3.1
BSP version: 2.0.1.10
Creation date: Sep 30 2003, 07:53:07




Press any key to stop auto-boot...
 0
auto-booting...


boot device          : sm
processor number     : 0
file name            : c:/vxboot/vxWorks.st
inet on backplane (b): 192.168.0.1:ffffff00
host inet (h)        : 192.168.0.2
gateway inet (g)     : 192.168.0.1
flags (f)            : 0x1008
target name (tn)     : tds7000
startup script (s)   : c:/vxboot/topscript.hw

Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1e80000... done.
Backplane anchor at 0x1e80000... Attaching network interface sm0... done

The diagnostic LED gets to state "L" where it remains.

I don't see any obvious errors in this boot sequence other than it doesn't make it past this stage.

I also compared the HDD contents of my working TDS7104 to this CSA7404B. The top level listing of the CSA7404B is:

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-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users    150528 Jun 19  2003 arcldr.exe
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users    163840 Jun 19  2003 arcsetup.exe
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users         0 Jul  2  2003 AUTOEXEC.BAT
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       213 Sep 23  2003 boot.ini
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users         0 Jul  2  2003 CONFIG.SYS
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       248 Oct 10  2003 Documents and Settings
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users        86 Jul  2  2003 Inetpub
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users         0 Jul  2  2003 IO.SYS
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users         0 Jul  2  2003 MSDOS.SYS
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users     34724 Jun 19  2003 NTDETECT.COM
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users    214432 Jun 19  2003 ntldr
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users 805306368 Oct 20  2003 pagefile.sys
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       656 Oct 14  2003 Program Files
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       250 Oct 10  2003 RECYCLER
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       453 Jul  8  2003 Shortcut to Embedded Console.lnk
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users        24 Jul  2  2003 System Volume Information
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       602 Oct 10  2003 Tektronix
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users      2396 Oct 11  2003 WINNT

And here's the top-level of the TDS7104:

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drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       154 Jul 22  2004 APP7_TDSDAS_17_JUN18
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users    150528 Jun 19  2003 arcldr.exe
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users    163840 Jun 19  2003 arcsetup.exe
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       136 Jan  9  2003 AUTOEXEC.BAT
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       222 Sep 18  2003 boot.ini
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users         8 Sep 18  2003 Cabs
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users         0 Jan 10  2003 CONFIG.SYS
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       150 Jan 28  2003 Documents and Settings
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users      1211 Feb 20  2001 Embedded Console.ht
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       114 Jan 10  2003 Inetpub
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users         0 Jan 10  2003 IO.SYS
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users         0 Jan 10  2003 MSDOS.SYS
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       755 Jul 22  2004 msildbg.log
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users     34724 Jul 22  2002 NTDETECT.COM
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users    214432 Sep 10  2003 ntldr
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users 805306368 Nov 16  2020 pagefile.sys
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users        28 Jul 22  2004 Plugins
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users      1032 Apr  5  2007 Program Files
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users     10155 Feb 23  2001 RAD_HD.EXE
-rwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       860 Feb 13  2001 RADSCAN.EXE
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       178 Jan 28  2003 RECYCLER
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users        24 Jan 10  2003 System Volume Information
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users        94 Feb  5  2004 TekApplications
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users        60 Apr  5  2007 TekScope
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       314 Sep 18  2003 Tektronix
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users         0 Feb  5  2004 Temp
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users       296 Apr  5  2007 vxBoot
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users        10 Feb  4  2004 VXIpnp
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users         8 Sep 12  2003 Windows
drwxrwxrwx 1 matt users      3920 Apr 10  2020 WINNT

Notably, the CSA7404B is missing the vxBoot directory, among others. So it's probably not so surprising it can't boot. The Tektronix contact insists this OS restore is all I should need though to re-install Windows.

Any ideas? Should I just try to add the vxBoot directory and resident files to the CSA7404B?

Thanks!
« Last Edit: March 28, 2023, 10:51:13 pm by matthuszagh »
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #726 on: March 28, 2023, 11:24:27 pm »
check autoexec.bat and config.sys, boot.ini    by editing them,     would be stupid to point to another partition ????   normally vxboot / vxwork   is on the main C:\   ??

i would copy the good vxwork folder ... worth a try ?
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #727 on: March 28, 2023, 11:37:33 pm »
check autoexec.bat and config.sys, boot.ini    by editing them,     would be stupid to point to another partition ????   normally vxboot / vxwork   is on the main C:\   ??

i would copy the good vxwork folder ... worth a try ?

AUTOEXEC.BAT on the CSA7404B is empty (0 bytes). Here are the contents on my TDS7104:

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@echo off
c:\RAD_HD.EXE
REM This is the CMOS Restore Program.
REM It will restore CMOS settings to factory
REM recommended settings.

CONFIG.SYS are empty on both.

Here is boot.ini on CSA7404B:

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[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect /kernel=ntoskrn1.exe

And on TDS7104:

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[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect /bootlog /kernel=ntoskrn1.exe

What do you think about the AUTOEXEC.BAT? Should I copy that over from the TDS7104? The CSA7404B also doesn't have the RAD_HD.EXE file though.

As for the vxBoot directory, I can try that and let you know.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #728 on: March 28, 2023, 11:52:03 pm »
I copied vxBoot over to the CSA7404B. That didn't work, but I noticed from the serial log that there were some changes to file name capitalization, so I changed vxBoot to vxboot and topScript.hw to topscript.hw. Unfortunately still no luck - I still get stuck at the same step.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #729 on: March 28, 2023, 11:54:29 pm »
I haven't updated the .sn and .key files in the vxboot directory yet (they're still set for my TDS7104). Not sure if that's a problem.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #730 on: March 29, 2023, 01:53:16 am »
It seems a few other people have been stuck at this stage in the boot sequence and the "L" LED diagnostic. One suggestion was to make sure all the drivers are complete and one individual provided a "Tektronix" folder. From a quick look, I think mine is ok. Here's the full file listing:

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Tektronix
├── Adobe
│   └── AR505enu.exe
├── Audio 5.10.3686
│   ├── 5.10.3686.certified.exe
│   ├── data1.cab
│   ├── data1.hdr
│   ├── data2.cab
│   ├── delcabs.bat
│   ├── iac97k4.sys
│   ├── iac97u4.dll
│   ├── ich
│   │   ├── nt4
│   │   │   ├── iac97k4.sys
│   │   │   ├── iac97u4.dll
│   │   │   ├── oemsetup.inf
│   │   │   └── setupnt4.dll
│   │   └── wdm
│   │       ├── setuphlp.dll
│   │       ├── stac97.cat
│   │       ├── stac97.inf
│   │       └── stac97.sys
│   ├── ikernel.ex_
│   ├── layout.bin
│   ├── oemsetup.inf
│   ├── setup.bmp
│   ├── setup.exe
│   ├── setuphlp.dll
│   ├── setup.ini
│   ├── setup.inx
│   ├── setup.iss
│   ├── setupnt4.dll
│   ├── stac97.cat
│   ├── stac97.inf
│   ├── stac97.log
│   ├── stac97.sys
│   ├── stacconfig.exe
│   ├── stfindcs.sys
│   ├── stfndcsd.dll
│   ├── stfndcsv.vxd
│   └── st_inst.ini
├── Chips and Tech display V.2.50G
│   ├── Chips2Kd.dll
│   ├── chips2k.inf
│   ├── Chips2Km.sys
│   ├── CHIPSDAN.HLP
│   ├── CHIPSDEU.HLP
│   ├── CHIPSDSP.HLP
│   ├── CHIPSDSP.ICO
│   ├── CHIPSESP.HLP
│   ├── CHIPSFIN.HLP
│   ├── CHIPSFRA.HLP
│   ├── CHIPSITA.HLP
│   ├── CHIPSJPN.HLP
│   ├── CHIPSNLD.HLP
│   ├── CHIPSNON.HLP
│   ├── CHIPSPTB.HLP
│   ├── ChpGamma.dll
│   ├── ChpsPtrt.exe
│   ├── chpstart.exe
│   ├── CNTNTDSP.DLL
│   ├── desc.txt
│   ├── DISK1
│   ├── install.txt
│   └── LICENSE.TXT
├── ClickNBurn
│   ├── Autorun.dxr
│   ├── AUTORUN.INF
│   ├── CNBP2
│   │   ├── Autorun
│   │   │   ├── Ar.bmp
│   │   │   ├── Ar.exe
│   │   │   ├── Ar.ico
│   │   │   ├── Ar.ini
│   │   │   └── vssver.scc
│   │   ├── Autorun.inf
│   │   ├── Click'N Burn Pro 2.0 (English) Setup.exe
│   │   ├── Click'N Burn Pro 2.0 (French) Setup.exe
│   │   ├── Click'N Burn Pro 2.0 (German) Setup.exe
│   │   ├── Click'N Burn Pro 2.0 (Italian) Setup.exe
│   │   ├── Click'N Burn Pro 2.0 (Spanish) Setup.exe
│   │   ├── Readme.txt
│   │   └── Shortcut to Click'N Burn Pro 2.0 (English) Setup.exe.lnk
│   ├── CnD3d
│   │   ├── CUSTDATA.INI
│   │   ├── manual.pdf
│   │   ├── setup.exe
│   │   └── vssver.scc
│   ├── CnESLE
│   │   ├── setup.exe
│   │   └── vssver.scc
│   ├── PxEngineUpdate342.exe
│   ├── Serial Number.txt
│   ├── StompProjector.exe
│   ├── vdla
│   │   ├── DLA.msi
│   │   ├── HISTORY.BLD
│   │   ├── Ins9XMsi.exe
│   │   ├── InsNTMsi.exe
│   │   ├── mfc42.dll
│   │   ├── msvcrt.dll
│   │   ├── pconfig.dcf
│   │   ├── readme.txt
│   │   ├── Setup.exe
│   │   ├── Setup.ini
│   │   ├── urldata.ini
│   │   └── vssver.scc
│   └── vsb
│       ├── buildnfo.txt
│       ├── data10.cab
│       ├── data1.cab
│       ├── data1.hdr
│       ├── data2.cab
│       ├── data3.cab
│       ├── data4.cab
│       ├── data5.cab
│       ├── data6.cab
│       ├── data7.cab
│       ├── data8.cab
│       ├── data9.cab
│       ├── DATA.TAG
│       ├── drvwcdb.vxd
│       ├── fconfig.dcf
│       ├── HISTORY.BLD
│       ├── _INST32I.EX_
│       ├── _ISDel.exe
│       ├── lang.dat
│       ├── layout.bin
│       ├── license.ENU
│       ├── os.dat
│       ├── pconfig.dcf
│       ├── pnpninst.exe
│       ├── pnpwtape.exe
│       ├── readme.er
│       ├── readme.txt
│       ├── rptENU.zip
│       ├── _Setup.dll
│       ├── Setup.exe
│       ├── SETUP.INF
│       ├── SETUP.INI
│       ├── setup.ins
│       ├── setup.lid
│       ├── _sys1.cab
│       ├── _sys1.hdr
│       ├── urldata.ini
│       ├── _user1.cab
│       ├── _user1.hdr
│       └── vssver.scc
├── Embedded Console.ht
├── Front Panel V.1.0
│   ├── TekFPUsb.inf
│   └── TekFPUsb.sys
├── INF_Intel 82801DB ICH4
│   └── infinst_enu.exe
├── Intel Application Accelerator 2.3
│   ├── iaa23_enu.exe
│   └── Readme.txt
├── Lan 6.4C0735
│   ├── APPS
│   │   ├── PROSet
│   │   │   └── WIN2K
│   │   │       ├── 1028.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1030.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1031.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1033.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1034.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1035.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1036.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1040.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1041.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1042.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1043.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1044.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1046.mst
│   │   │       ├── 1053.mst
│   │   │       ├── 2052.mst
│   │   │       ├── ANSMW2K.INF
│   │   │       ├── ANSMXP.INF
│   │   │       ├── ANSPW2K.INF
│   │   │       ├── ANSPXP.INF
│   │   │       ├── iansmsg.dll
│   │   │       ├── iansw2k.cat
│   │   │       ├── iansw2k.sys
│   │   │       ├── ianswxp.cat
│   │   │       ├── ianswxp.sys
│   │   │       ├── PROSet.exe
│   │   │       ├── PROSet.msi
│   │   │       └── s8023Dev.Reg
│   │   ├── SETUP
│   │   │   └── SETUPBD
│   │   │       └── W98-XP32
│   │   │           ├── NetInst.dll
│   │   │           ├── SetBDRes.dll
│   │   │           ├── SetupBD.exe
│   │   │           └── SetupBD.ini
│   │   └── TOOLS
│   │       ├── DIAG1000.EXE
│   │       ├── diag100.exe
│   │       ├── IDADAPT.EXE
│   │       └── IDADAPT.TXT
│   ├── license.rtf
│   ├── MakeDisk
│   │   └── Make2KXP.bat
│   ├── PRO100
│   │   ├── WIN2K
│   │   │   ├── e100bmsg.dll
│   │   │   ├── e100bnt5.cat
│   │   │   ├── e100bnt5.din
│   │   │   ├── e100bnt5.inf
│   │   │   ├── e100bnt5.sys
│   │   │   ├── intelnic.dll
│   │   │   └── PROUnstl.exe
│   │   └── WINXP32
│   │       ├── e100b325.cat
│   │       ├── e100b325.din
│   │       ├── e100b325.inf
│   │       ├── e100b325.sys
│   │       ├── e100bmsg.dll
│   │       ├── intelnic.dll
│   │       └── PROUnstl.exe
│   ├── PRO1000
│   │   ├── WIN2K
│   │   │   ├── e1000msg.dll
│   │   │   ├── e1000nt5.cat
│   │   │   ├── e1000nt5.din
│   │   │   ├── e1000nt5.inf
│   │   │   ├── E1000NT5.SYS
│   │   │   ├── intelnic.dll
│   │   │   └── PROUnstl.exe
│   │   └── WINXP32
│   │       ├── e1000325.cat
│   │       ├── e1000325.din
│   │       ├── e1000325.inf
│   │       ├── E1000325.sys
│   │       ├── e1000msg.dll
│   │       ├── intelnic.dll
│   │       └── PROUnstl.exe
│   ├── Readme.txt
│   ├── RelNotes.rtf
│   ├── Setup.exe
│   ├── v6.4_PRO2KXP_only.exe
│   └── verfile.tic
├── Semtec Touch Screen Calibrator V.1.00.70.1
│   ├── CALIBR.CPL
│   ├── INSTALL.EXE
│   ├── rathook.dll
│   ├── RATPTR.EXE
│   ├── TSCREEN.INF
│   └── TSCRLF.SYS
├── Tektronix Custom Drivers
│   └── v 1.11 Service
│       ├── dbfs.sys
│       ├── dblib.sys
│       ├── dbWdm.inf
│       ├── dbWdm.sys
│       ├── DIOSERVICE.exe
│       └── Readme.txt
├── tvia
│   ├── dpms.scr
│   ├── igscp.ini
│   ├── IGSDISP.dll
│   ├── IGSMINI.sys
│   ├── IGSMM.SYS
│   ├── IGSMW32.500
│   ├── IGSMW32.520
│   ├── IGSMW32.522
│   ├── IGSMW32.530
│   ├── IGSMW32.560
│   ├── igspsp.dll
│   ├── IGS_TEK.INF
│   ├── IGSVCAP.SYS
│   ├── README.TXT
│   ├── RMIGAVID.500
│   ├── RMIGAVID.520
│   ├── RMIGAVID.522
│   ├── RMIGAVID.530
│   ├── RMIGAVID.560
│   ├── TVIAHLP_tek.cnt
│   ├── TVIAHLP_tek.HLP
│   ├── Tviahlp_x86.cnt
│   ├── Tviahlp_x86.HLP
│   ├── TviaHook.dll
│   ├── TVIA_MV.500
│   ├── TVIA_MV.520
│   ├── TVIA_MV.522
│   ├── TVIA_MV.530
│   └── TviaSrv.exe
├── ver  30518p
│   ├── installnotes.doc
│   ├── MAINDIR1.cab
│   ├── readme.txt
│   ├── Setup.exe
│   └── SYSDIR1.cab
├── Version P16 Bios
│   └── BIOS FILES
│       ├── AUTOEXEC.BAT
│       ├── BEEP.COM
│       ├── BIOS.REC
│       ├── DESC.TXT
│       ├── DISKIMG.EXE
│       ├── EXECUTE.BAT
│       ├── IFLASH.EXE
│       ├── LICENSE.TXT
│       ├── LOGODATA.USR
│       ├── Make a P16 Disk.IMA
│       ├── P16-0040.BI1
│       ├── P16-0040.BI2
│       ├── P16-0040.BI3
│       ├── P16-0040.BI4
│       ├── P16-0040.BI5
│       ├── P16-0040.BI6
│       ├── P16-0040.BIO
│       ├── P16-0040.ITK
│       ├── P16-0040.SIG
│       ├── README.TXT
│       ├── RUN.BAT
│       ├── SW
│       │   ├── DESC.TXT
│       │   ├── DISKIMG.EXE
│       │   ├── LICENSE.TXT
│       │   ├── LY86AP16IB.EXE
│       │   ├── P16-0040.ITK
│       │   ├── README.TXT
│       │   ├── RUN.BAT
│       │   └── SW.EXE
│       ├── SW.EXE
│       └── TOKEN
└── Video_Intel Extreme Graphics 6.13.01.3317
    ├── autorun.inf
    ├── Graphics
    │   ├── data1.cab
    │   ├── data1.hdr
    │   ├── data2.cab
    │   ├── ikernel.ex_
    │   ├── Install.cfg
    │   ├── layout.bin
    │   ├── Setup.exe
    │   ├── Setup.ini
    │   ├── setup.inx
    │   ├── setup.iss
    │   ├── Support
    │   │   ├── shpshftr.dll
    │   │   └── SignTime.dll
    │   └── Win2000
    │       ├── a302.cat
    │       ├── a302.inf
    │       ├── a302.sys
    │       ├── a303.cat
    │       ├── a303.inf
    │       ├── a303.sys
    │       ├── a304.cat
    │       ├── a304.inf
    │       ├── a304.sys
    │       ├── a305.cat
    │       ├── a305.inf
    │       ├── a305.sys
    │       ├── a306.cat
    │       ├── a306.inf
    │       ├── a306.sys
    │       ├── a307.cat
    │       ├── a307.inf
    │       ├── a307.sys
    │       ├── a308.cat
    │       ├── a308.inf
    │       ├── a308.sys
    │       ├── a309.cat
    │       ├── a309.inf
    │       ├── a309.sys
    │       ├── a310.cat
    │       ├── a310.inf
    │       ├── a310.sys
    │       ├── a311.cat
    │       ├── a311.inf
    │       ├── a311.sys
    │       ├── a312.cat
    │       ├── a312.inf
    │       ├── a312.sys
    │       ├── hccutils.dll
    │       ├── hkcmd.exe
    │       ├── i830mnt5.cat
    │       ├── ialmcoin.dll
    │       ├── ialmdd5.dll
    │       ├── ialmdev5.dll
    │       ├── ialmdnt5.dll
    │       ├── ialmgdev.dll
    │       ├── ialmgicd.dll
    │       ├── ialmkchw.sys
    │       ├── ialmnt5.inf
    │       ├── ialmnt5.sys
    │       ├── ialmrem.dll
    │       ├── ialmrnt5.dll
    │       ├── ialmsbw.sys
    │       ├── igfxcfg.exe
    │       ├── igfxcpl.cpl
    │       ├── igfxdev.dll
    │       ├── igfxdgps.dll
    │       ├── igfxdiag.exe
    │       ├── igfxdo.dll
    │       ├── igfxeud.dll
    │       ├── igfxhara.lhp
    │       ├── igfxharb.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhchs.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhcht.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhcsy.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhdan.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhdeu.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhell.lhp
    │       ├── igfxheng.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhenu.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhesp.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhfin.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhfra.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhfrc.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhheb.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhhun.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhita.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhjpn.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhk.dll
    │       ├── igfxhkor.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhnld.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhnor.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhplk.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhptb.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhptg.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhrus.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhsve.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhtha.lhp
    │       ├── igfxhtrk.lhp
    │       ├── igfxpph.dll
    │       ├── igfxrara.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrarb.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrchs.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrcht.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrcsy.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrdan.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrdeu.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrell.lrc
    │       ├── igfxreng.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrenu.lrc
    │       ├── igfxresp.lrc
    │       ├── igfxress.dll
    │       ├── igfxrfin.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrfra.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrfrc.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrheb.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrhun.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrita.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrjpn.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrkor.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrnld.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrnor.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrplk.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrptb.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrptg.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrrus.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrsve.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrtha.lrc
    │       ├── igfxrtrk.lrc
    │       ├── igfxsrvc.dll
    │       ├── igfxtray.exe
    │       ├── ikch8xx.cat
    │       ├── ikch8xx.inf
    │       ├── isb8xx.cat
    │       ├── isb8xx.inf
    │       ├── oemdspif.dll
    │       ├── shpshftr.dll
    │       ├── vch.cat
    │       ├── Vch.inf
    │       ├── Vch.sys
    │       ├── wa301a.cat
    │       ├── wa301a.inf
    │       ├── wa301a.sys
    │       ├── wa301b.cat
    │       ├── wa301b.inf
    │       └── wa301b.sys
    ├── ReadMe.txt
    └── win2k_xp.exe


Also, the official OS restore CD should have all the requisite drivers.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #731 on: March 29, 2023, 04:07:50 am »
I noticed some of the boot parameters look a bit off:

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file name            : c:/vxboot/vxWorks.st
inet on backplane (b): 192.168.0.1:ffffff00
host inet (h)        : 192.168.0.2
gateway inet (g)     : 192.168.0.1
flags (f)            : 0x1008
target name (tn)     : tds7000
startup script (s)   : c:/vxboot/topscript.hw

In addition to the changed capitalizations, I think those should be backslashes. Unfortunately, using 'c' to change boot parameters doesn't persist.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #732 on: March 29, 2023, 04:11:19 am »
I tried changing them to exactly what TiN had in his post, (and then using '@' to boot), but no luck.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #733 on: March 29, 2023, 07:42:54 am »
L  code from : https://xdevs.com/fix/csa7404/

EDIT   see the last lines of this thread message

real strange,   the cd-rom you got, can you lauch the installer in admin mode,  or something is funky ...  it is supposed to install everything you need ??? 

But you talk about a bios version as a bare minimum ?? i dont know about this one ... do you have some infos ? 

But the cd-rom listing show a P16  version of the bios,  i think (not sure)  but some versions bios goes up to the last who is "P25"
witch i have for the 7254 at my job (but the original Intel, not the TEK crippled/limitted one)



Stuck like this .... i would try something stupid as installing the tds7k  TEK system files and see where it goes


have you checked in the device manager if all is ok, any exclamation mark, it could spoil everything ?? the pc side must be perfect ...

Is it me ?   but  seeing the cd-list,  i dont see any TEK related installations,   seems mostly like an driver CD ??   

The ClicknBurn folder is intriguing ?   is it to create more installation files ?

Or this folder :  ver  30518p  ??


I dont have any original tds7k cd-rom   to compare ... but have al TEK files / drivers and the hdd backup
Ours 7254 is running on xp sp3  with some tweaks in the os to get rid of the junk, and running it in classic mode wich is less consuming in ressources

sorry if i lost some thread tracks   loll or i repeat myself loll

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://xdevs.com/doc/Tektronix/CSA7404/

Almost at the end you have :  tds2.5.3_2008.06.09.10.42.00_5150_EN.exe   

And 3x   VxBoot folder archives or backup copies .....

OR

https://dev.xdevs.com/projects/csa7404/files

------------------------------------------------------------

tds7k  zipped file :  https://www.jabse.com/dl2.php?file=L1Rla3Ryb25peC9DU0E3NDA0L1REUzcwMDAyay56aXA-

not sure if this one is a bull backup  or setup files  etc ....

It is an full os reinsallation iso  and the win2k  sp4 ...

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« Reply #734 on: March 29, 2023, 02:26:12 pm »
My mistake, I've provided somewhat incomplete information about the installation CD and the resulting installation on the HDD. Here are links to the installation ISOs:

disk 1: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BZwyrxn3TVarZnL3mOxXxlZpr7UYXGtQ/view?usp=sharing
disk 2: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jCqaUhgUN9EXMnqPsNRks5by8cXsn3HZ/view?usp=sharing

These were provided to me by Tektronix for BIOS Version LY84510A.86A.0040.P16. Tektronix informed me that the restore ISOs are particular to the BIOS revision number. I have another set of discs for which I don't know the BIOS version and which didn't work in my scope (the installation didn't complete). I can upload these too if people are interested.

FYI I may not keep these up here forever, but if someone reads this in the future and wants copies, send me a personal message, I should still have them.

The directory listing I provided earlier was only of the Tektronix folder, not the rest. I've attached a file that includes the full, recursive file listing. This is not the same thing as the installation ISOs. This is what is created on the HDD after performing the installation with those ISOs.

have you checked in the device manager if all is ok, any exclamation mark, it could spoil everything ?? the pc side must be perfect ...

Can you clarify how to do this? Don't I need to have a running Windows to open the device manager? I never get to the Windows boot stage. Maybe there's another way to accomplish this?

https://xdevs.com/doc/Tektronix/CSA7404/

Almost at the end you have :  tds2.5.3_2008.06.09.10.42.00_5150_EN.exe   

And 3x   VxBoot folder archives or backup copies .....

OR

https://dev.xdevs.com/projects/csa7404/files

------------------------------------------------------------

tds7k  zipped file :  https://www.jabse.com/dl2.php?file=L1Rla3Ryb25peC9DU0E3NDA0L1REUzcwMDAyay56aXA-

not sure if this one is a bull backup  or setup files  etc ....

It is an full os reinsallation iso  and the win2k  sp4 ...

Thanks I'll take a look through these and see what differs from my system and see if I need to copy over drivers etc. It still seems a bit weird to me that the official installation ISO contains some drivers but not all the requisite ones (esp when the rep at Tektronix insisted it should contain all drivers). But, worth a shot.

The thing I'm hung up on now is that boot parameters look subtly wrong and I'm not able to change them in a way that persists. If the battery had died I would expect the info to be garbled. Not sure what's up there.

Anyway I won't have time to test these things until tonight, but I'll post back this evening with any findings from this. Thanks for the help. And please do clarify how to use the device manager if you can! That sounds like it would be very useful to check driver status.
 
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #735 on: March 29, 2023, 03:06:27 pm »
You mean  windows does not boot completly ??


Hum well

i would say,  format everything, re-install everything,  be sure the OS is fully operational, and install the tek stuff  after being sure you dont have any  problems in the device manager

the device manager  can be called on a desktop shortcut, create a shortcut and for the properties you write   devmgmt.msc

it will create an icon on your windows desktop, and you'll be able to see if there is problems with drivers installation ...


The known problem with the p16 bios was the graphic (even mentioned here on another thread) initialization in the bios, sometimes it would not set to internal PCI  ... that was resolved on the P25 ...



 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #736 on: March 29, 2023, 04:35:22 pm »
You mean  windows does not boot completly ??

Hum well

i would say,  format everything, re-install everything,  be sure the OS is fully operational, and install the tek stuff  after being sure you dont have any  problems in the device manager

Correct, Windows doesn't boot at all. It sounds like the OS installation discs I have aren't working. Weird. The Tek rep indicated this has worked many times before. What do other people do? Install generic Windows 2k PRO SP4 and then populate drivers and vxBoot as needed? I can try that.

The known problem with the p16 bios was the graphic (even mentioned here on another thread) initialization in the bios, sometimes it would not set to internal PCI  ... that was resolved on the P25 ...

I think the Tek rep mentioned this too and I checked it and it was fine. Is it worth trying to update the BIOS to P25? I'm a bit nervous to mess around with the BIOS.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #737 on: March 29, 2023, 05:04:21 pm »
do you have opened the scope to physically check the motherboard capacitors ??  they could play some tricks, and they are not easy to change ...

ill check the 2 links you provided
Hum    made by powerquest, and the second iso  as one file mentioning  tds5k in it  ????   not even sure it's the good images for your scope ?

I would redo a full os install say from an genuine w2k   cd-rom,  or the  tds7k zip file link i've sent you,    you have an os iso in it and the w2k sp4  in it, even the os serial is there ... 

Burn an cd-rom at 4x   ... low speed 

For the serial  you should have the sticker on the casing

Your  posted cdrom listing / index / folders have the needed drivers you will be able to use

Normally you will need the vga drivers, the touch screen drivers, front panel drivers,  lan, audio, ICH  (intel chipset)  ...   and the one for the TVIA  board something  loll

the p25 bios can be upgraded from a windows os ... if i recall     it can wait until you have a fully working os
   

Do you have a separated "normal" ATX computer board and a agp/pci slot separated interface board, or you have one edge of the mainboard who slot in a backplane board on the side

I'm sometimes confused  between the A and B models, since you wrote an non B model   loll 

But OS side is the same

If the cd-rom is ok  you should be able to boot from it ... win2k ones where bootable if i recall



If you finally manage to get a os boot

Xdev's  tds7000  non B  softwares and drivers ??
https://xdevs.com/doc/Tektronix/TDS7000/


https://www.tek.com/en/support/software/firmware/csa7000-and-tds7000-series-firmware-upgrade-v253

but   i have sent you a link for this one,  you need an free tek registration to get it.
Or
https://dev.xdevs.com/attachments/591
tds2.5.3_2008.06.09.10.42.00_5150_EN.exe
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #738 on: March 29, 2023, 05:25:02 pm »
ill check the 2 links you provided
Hum    made by powerquest

and one file mention tds5k in it  ????   not even sure it's the good images for your scope ?

Where are you seeing tds5k? I checked the ISOs and HDD after installation and don't see anything about tds5k. Mind clarifying? I do see a folder on the installed HDD labelled "Version P16 Bios" which makes me think these are the correct installation ISOs. Or at least correct for the BIOS version.

I would redo a full os install say from an genuine w2k   cd-rom,  or the  tds7k zip file link i've sent you,    you have an os iso in it and the w2k sp4  in it, even the os serial is there ... 

Ok thanks, I'll try that and let you know when I'm back in front of the scope tonight. As for the zip file, are you sure that's complete? I'm seeing this when trying to unzip:

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$ unzip TDS70002k.zip
Archive:  TDS70002k.zip
  End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
  a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
  latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
  the last disk(s) of this archive.
unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of TDS70002k.zip or
        TDS70002k.zip.zip, and cannot find TDS70002k.zip.ZIP, period.

Burn an cd-rom at 4x   ... low speed 

For the serial  you should have the sticker on the casing

Your  posted cdrom listing / index / folders have the needed drivers you will be able to use

Normally you will need the vga drivers, the touch screen drivers, front panel drivers,  lan, audio, ICH  (intel chipset)  ...   and the one for the TVIA  board something  loll    the one who link the scope side to the pc ...

the p25 bios can be upgraded from a windows os ... if i recall     it can wait until you have a fully working os

This is all very helpful, thanks! I'll try the installation this way.

Do you have a separated "normal" ATX computer board and a agp/pci slot separated interface board, or you have one edge of the mainboard who slot in a backplane board on the side

I'm sometimes confused  between the A and B models, since you wrote an non B model   loll 

But OS side is the same

If the cd-rom is ok  you should be able to boot from it ... win2k ones where bootable if i recall

Xdev's  tds7000  non B  softwares and drivers ??
https://xdevs.com/doc/Tektronix/TDS7000/

This is a "B" version, so I think some of the drivers will be different from eg TiN's. But I'll start with the OS and then worry about the drivers when I'm able to boot into w2k.

Thanks again! I'll keep you posted.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #739 on: March 29, 2023, 06:12:19 pm »
you have a "rem tds5k" note in the autoexec.bat  of the second iso file  you provided


@ECHO OFF
REM Use for TDS5K Ashland


the tds70002k.zip file open correctly in peazip archiver i use ????

oooohhh k   it is  a B  version  loll       Normally you start the os, install everything (drivers)  and you use the v2.5.5 and  v5.13 firmware file from TEK  who is the latests ones

TDS7104_7054_V2.5.5_066031808.exe
tds7154b_tds7254b_tds7404b_csa7404b_firmware_v5.1.3_066050014.exe

can't remember the installation order  loll

that's what i did when our 7254 slightly crashed,  dead dallas DIP model  .. and an os corruption, that's why i've talked about XP Sp3 ... 

And the Intel non TEK branded bios, since i needed more bios settings ....  with the TEK   you can not do  DEL to enter the bios until you do a killcmos  to bring the bios settings
BF86510A.86A.0077.P25.IB.exe

And i don't care if the TEK logo is not there loll
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #740 on: March 29, 2023, 07:27:41 pm »
you have a "rem tds5k" note in the autoexec.bat  of the second iso file  you provided


@ECHO OFF
REM Use for TDS5K Ashland

Oh, that's from the TDS7104(A) I have. That one is working fine and I was using it as an (imperfect) point of comparison for the CSA7404B. I have no idea about the installation on the TDS7104 as I didn't do that myself - it was working fine when I received it.

autoexec.bat is completely empty on the CSA7404B.
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« Reply #741 on: March 30, 2023, 05:06:49 am »
I tried a stock w2k sp4 installation ISO but I still can't get past the same step. I'll try with the installation ISO from the zip next. It doesn't look like the problem is with vxworks.st or topscript.hw in vxboot as, judging by what others have posted, those are loaded/executed later.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #742 on: March 30, 2023, 10:33:08 am »
have you inspected the internals ? mobo capacitors  etc ...  try another ram stick ... youre not supposed to have installation problems,   unless the computer side has problems

Ide drive ?   try another ?
Ram
Capacitors


try a cmos reset on the mainboard

pull out the mobo  on a vench and try  to install as a pc ??
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #743 on: March 30, 2023, 07:02:48 pm »
Good call. 4 caps on the microATX board are bulging and none of them (desoldered) measure like a cap anymore. Parallel DC resistance across all of them is a steady 8ohms. I don't have these on hand so I'll need to order some, but I'll report back when I've replaced them.

I powered up the board externally (caps still in circuit) and measured 1.47 VDC across those caps. I'm not sure if that's what it should be. Ripple didn't seem that high - about 7 mVrms.

After desoldering all 4 visibly bulging caps there's still about 8ohms across the rail. The yellow caps appear to be wired in parallel. I wonder if one or more of those is bad too.
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #744 on: March 30, 2023, 08:41:43 pm »
Actually, I measured the parallel impedance of all the remaining (yellow) caps. I think there are 6 of these and are nominally 560u 4V. This plot looks fine to me, so I'm not sure the DC resistance I measured with a DMM is indicative of a problem. I'm ordering some anyway just in case though. Still, the 4 bulging caps are definitely bad and will be replaced.
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #745 on: April 04, 2023, 03:32:10 am »
Well I replaced those caps but still no luck. I also replaced the microATX battery, which had died. I'm still getting stuck at diagnostic LED "L".

I tried installing windows directly onto the microATX from the bench. I used the official tektronix installation and it didn't work. Same symptom: I just see a blinking cursor when I try to boot into Windows. I don't think it would be the RAM that's causing this as the Windows installation procedure works at least to some extent.

I did notice a bit of a weird symptom where if I leave the battery in circuit, after installation the microATX CPU fan doesn't turn on and I think maybe the CPU doesn't either. When I remove it I can boot, but still never run Windows from the HDD.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #746 on: April 16, 2023, 05:31:21 pm »
I have a TDS7104 with Win98. A couple years ago it would spontaneously turn itself on so I unplugged it, guessing it may be a CMOS battery issue. Yesterday, before powering up again, I opened it up, pulled out the coin cell but found it to be 3V, so I put it back. Thought that while it was open, I'd backup the hdd. So I proceeded to dd the 6GB hdd to an image file, then put the disk back and power up. That's when the trouble began.

Presently, i have no display out either VGA port. It was displaying a few messages out the NLX but wouldn't let me get into Setup. The Entering Setup message would flicker and wouldn't go into the menus, but display a message (I forget now about) something about PXE boot. Keyboard was working, but now I don't get any clicking sounds when I hold down a key.

The hdd reads fine on a Linux dongle.

On the PPC, I am stuck at "L" On the debug console, I get to:
 Backplane anchor at 0x1e80000... Attaching network interface sm0... done

I don't get the second "done" or anything beyond. Where to go from here?

Update: I moved the hdd to the DVD cable and got two beeps from the bios. I moved it back and now I've got VGA again from the NLX. The error message is from Intel LANDesk:
PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable
PXE-M0F: Exiting LANDesk (R) Service Agent II

Still stuck on "L" and "Backplane anchor at 0x1e80000... Attaching network interface sm0... done"

Also, the F2 to enter setup displays rapidly flickering text "Entering Setup" for a second or two but doesn't go into Setup. I've seen others describe this same behavior, but can't find any resolutions.

When I boot an MSDOS floppy, "dir C: " gives me "Invalid drive specification". I tried booting from floppy and a different hdd and got the same response.


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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #747 on: April 17, 2023, 12:04:35 am »
Seems you lost some bios settings i think,  thats why in some posts, i put the latest intel variant to get all the original options,  the TEK branded bios has crippled features ...

On some cases  you have to use killcmos to bring the bios into an error and play in it

you have to get the settings right, to boot properly

had fun for a few hours  just for the damn  lcd config    on a B  model
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #748 on: April 17, 2023, 12:39:53 am »
Thanks for the reply, coromonadalix. I can't find killcmos - was going to try that... It's been removed for download from a number of locations and labeled a trojan in others.

But is it OK to flash a standard bios? My bios is 4B4LZ0XA.86A.0007.P04.9904191150.

I also find it very puzzling that no disk I try gets recognized. I even tried a win98 boot floppy, boot with CD drive option and it tells me there is no optical drive found. Is the PPC holding onto a bus or something of the sort?

Also, I think I read somewhere that there's a way to disable the PPC and just run the NLX board but I can't find anything on how to do. Since nothing I attach to the PATA bus gets recognized, that might help with the diagnosis.

- confused and tired  :P
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #749 on: April 17, 2023, 01:34:54 am »
https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/killcmos.html


windows or the browser will block it,  just allow it  ....  never had problems with this site,  my killcmos come from them

If evything is okay, no disconnected wires  etc ....  it should be a matter to pitch in the good hdd specs,  find you drive sectors / platters / etc .. and manually enter it

did you change the master slave jumper ??

in the bios   you may have primary and secondary ide settings ??     i think you can use the motherbaord outside the scope with an external psu, and see if it works

are the capacitors goods on the mobo, not buldged in anyways ?
 


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