Siglent SVA1015X and SVA1032X 1.5, 3.2GHz Spectrum & Vector Network Analyzers

[tautech]

Hello,
I have a SVA1015X in version 2.2.1.2.5 that I cannot update (it stays with message Upgrading now, please wait... for hours)
telnet works. Could someone help me about what I can do please ?

Thank you.

Welcome to the forum.

I believe I had this happen with a SVA1015X update too.
Hold the power button down to force a hard power OFF.
It should reboot as normal then check to see if the update was successful.

2.2.1.2.5 is quite old now and you will see several improvements in later firmware.
All versions are available here:
https://int.siglent.com/download/firmwares/?ProId=30

Be sure to check the pdf in the download to see if there are upgrade steps you must do before you install the latest version.

[facotl]

Hi Tautech,
I managed to power off this way but I tried 10 times to update without success. Do you have an idea please ?

Thank you for your help.

[tautech]

Hi Tautech,
I managed to power off this way but I tried 10 times to update without success. Do you have an idea please ?

Thank you for your help.

Which version are you attempting to install ?

In the update history file it specifies all later firmware versions can only be installed from V2.1.1.1.12a or later.
https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Spectrum_analyzer/SVA1000X_V2.1.1.1.13_EN.zip

So you will need to first install V2.1.1.1.13 then you can install the latest V3.2.2.4.0R2
https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Spectrum_analyzer/SVA1015X_V3.2.2.4.0R2_EN.zip

Please report the outcome.

[facotl]

I tried the last, 2.2.1.2.5 and 2.2.1.2.8 without success.

[tautech]

I tried the last, 2.2.1.2.5 and 2.2.1.2.8 without success.

You must install V2.1.1.1.13 before installing later versions.
https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Spectrum_analyzer/SVA1000X_V2.1.1.1.13_EN.zip

[facotl]

But it's in 2.2.1.2.5

[tautech]

But it's in 2.2.1.2.5

OK then try V3.2.2.3.3R1 as one of fixes is: Fix upgrade failure issue
https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Spectrum_analyzer/SVA1015X_V3.2.2.3.3R1_EN.zip

[facotl]

I tried this version without success.

That's ecomb output during update try on a terminal.
FileHeader.product_type == 11402
version_flag == 1

Is there any way to extract ADS file content ?
Factory reset nand ?

[tv84]

I tried this version without success.

Are you sure you are using the right SVA FW update file? There are different files according to the specific SVA model. See here.

The SVA line will only have the same FW file after V3.2.2.4.0. And that file hasn't been released.

So, you have to use the SVA1015X_V3.2.2.4.0.ADS  (which has a CRC32: E4FD2787). It's for Product_ID 11402.

If this still doesn't work then go in via telnet and show me the contents of file NSP_trends_config_info.xml.

[tautech]

But it's in 2.2.1.2.5

OK then try V3.2.2.3.3R1 as one of fixes is: Fix upgrade failure issue
https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Spectrum_analyzer/SVA1015X_V3.2.2.3.3R1_EN.zip

I tried this version without success.

OK we need know more.

Has this unit ever been updated or is it running the original factory new firmware ?
Is your USB stick 8GB or less and formatted in FAT32 ?
Have you tried another USB stick ?

[facotl]

Hello Tautech,
It's not the original, I updated it with the hack tutorial.
My stick is 16 GB and FAT32 formatted (but the first that I used to this update was less than 8 GB)
I can see the file and select it but it never ends.

Do you have a 2.5 or later version of ecomb on you machine ? If yes could you send me it ?
If you have telnet could you give me the result of commands "mount" and df -Th ?

Thank you for your help.

[tautech]

Hello Tautech,
It's not the original, I updated it with the hack tutorial.
My stick is 16 GB and FAT32 formatted (but the first that I used to this update was less than 8 GB)
I can see the file and select it but it never ends.

Do you have a 2.5 or later version of ecomb on you machine ? If yes could you send me it ?
If you have telnet could you give me the result of commands "mount" and df -Th ?

Thank you for your help.

PM sent.

[Bicurico]

All SVA1015 FW versions expect a Product ID 11402.

If the upgrade fails, it might be because you changed the Product ID to a different number.

Note that the SVA1015 uses a different FW than the SVA1032 model. If you followed the hack, you probably entered a new Product ID matching the SVA1032 (Product ID 11403) instead of the SVA1015.

That might be the reason.

Regards,
Vitor

[tautech]

All SVA1015 FW versions expect a Product ID 11402.

If the upgrade fails, it might be because you changed the Product ID to a different number.

Note that the SVA1015 uses a different FW than the SVA1032 model. If you followed the hack, you probably entered a new Product ID matching the SVA1032 (Product ID 11403) instead of the SVA1015.

That might be the reason.

Regards,
Vitor

As I understand facotl's unit is a factory SVA1015X with only options hacked but yes there maybe has been a mistake made but FW has been updated successfully before. We will get a solution soon from the factory to fix it.

[tv84]

As I understand facotl's unit is a factory SVA1015X with only options hacked but yes there maybe has been a mistake made but FW has been updated successfully before. We will get a solution soon from the factory to fix it.

Now that we know that a hack has been done, a wrong step is the most probable cause. Maybe it would have been simpler/quicker if the member had answered my request for the contents of file NSP_trends_config_info.xml... 

[facotl]

Fixed, thank you all for your help.

[facotl]

Is there any way to unlock options again on the latest firmware ? 

[maxi]

Hello all,

new to eevblog and have got an SVA1032x, would like to know if you have an bluetooth-dongle with keyboard or mouse in use ? I have attached a picture from the review from Shahriar where he uses a mouse.

I have a bluetooth keyboard and a dongle from Delock but can´t get it to work. I think there must be a dongle with native drivers for the SVA ?

Any advice is welcome, the keyboard would be helpful for file input.

Thank you !

[tautech]

Hello all,

new to eevblog and have got an SVA1032x, would like to know if you have an bluetooth-dongle with keyboard or mouse in use ? I have attached a picture from the review from Shahriar where he uses a mouse.

I have a bluetooth keyboard and a dongle from Delock but can´t get it to work. I think there must be a dongle with native drivers for the SVA ?

Any advice is welcome, the keyboard would be helpful for file input.

Thank you !

Welcome to the forum.

Random MS wireless mouse dongle fitted before boot works just fine in my SVA1032X.
Check your firmware is the latest in case this matters.
https://int.siglent.com/download/firmwares/?CateIdss=16

[maxi]

Thank you, tautech

I ordered by risk Dell Multi-Device-Set KM7120W Keyboard, Mouse and USB-dongle.

Was lucky  it worked out of the box with my new SVA1032X ...

Regards

[GMJ]

Gentlemen, I've been studying this string and as I understand it, I can connect internally to my SVA1015x and make some options permanent?  I would connect internally to the uart in the unit with some sort of serial port adapter to (?) to modify or change the .ads file if my unit is running the current firmware? 
I have lots of time left on the original options grant and am currently learning the unit.  I bought this to avoid carrying my 60 pound VNA and 40 pound SA to a remote site.  I learned too late that my purchase wasn't as smart as to purchase a SSA3000+ series but afraid I would brick it.  Somewhat confused but still studying the posts...
Thanks!

[Self Bias]

If it's the same as with the SDS200X+ oscilloscopes, which I suspect: Wireless input devices will work because they identify as HID. Bluetooth devices will not work because you can't get them to pair and the software doesn't handle Bluetooth.

[tautech]

If it's the same as with the SDS200X+ oscilloscopes, which I suspect: Wireless input devices will work because they identify as HID. Bluetooth devices will not work because you can't get them to pair and the software doesn't handle Bluetooth.

Thanks and I'll take the BT mouse and keyboard compatibility issue to Siglent.

Gentlemen, I've been studying this string and as I understand it, I can connect internally to my SVA1015x and make some options permanent?  I would connect internally to the uart in the unit with some sort of serial port adapter to (?) to modify or change the .ads file if my unit is running the current firmware? 
I have lots of time left on the original options grant and am currently learning the unit.  I bought this to avoid carrying my 60 pound VNA and 40 pound SA to a remote site.  I learned too late that my purchase wasn't as smart as to purchase a SSA3000+ series but afraid I would brick it.  Somewhat confused but still studying the posts...
Thanks!

Welcome to the forum.

Installing/hacking options does not require internal access to SVA models.
Keep studying. 

[RoV]

I am doing some measurements with an upgraded SSA3012X Plus in VNA mode.
...
BW and sweep time are always grayed, both from the VNA stimulus page and pressing the BW/sweep buttons.

The manual refers to those commands as normally usable, only saying that the default BW is 10 kHz.   
I have normally used BW and sweep time settings on other VNAs (hp and Copper Mountain tech) for this purpose, when measuring devices like resonators or long lines.

  sorry quoting myself...
I am wondering if someone in Siglent acknowledged the issue, I'd like to be sure that it gets fixed soon. Having fixed BW and sweep time in VNA mode is tremendously limiting, causing wrong measurements on e.g. high-Q resonators like xtals and long lines.

Roberto

[tautech]

I am doing some measurements with an upgraded SSA3012X Plus in VNA mode.
...
BW and sweep time are always grayed, both from the VNA stimulus page and pressing the BW/sweep buttons.

The manual refers to those commands as normally usable, only saying that the default BW is 10 kHz.   
I have normally used BW and sweep time settings on other VNAs (hp and Copper Mountain tech) for this purpose, when measuring devices like resonators or long lines.

  sorry quoting myself...

Don't be as it's quite acceptable here.

I am wondering if someone in Siglent acknowledged the issue, I'd like to be sure that it gets fixed soon. Having fixed BW and sweep time in VNA mode is tremendously limiting, causing wrong measurements on e.g. high-Q resonators like xtals and long lines.
Roberto

Yes this is an issue we have recently explored in some depth with the SSA/SVA product manager and for now SA rather than VNA mode is better for this where you have more control over BW and Sweep times.
Currently we are waiting for a firmware update to improve Sweep, RBW and VBW performance and fix a related bug found while exploring these issues.
Hopefully SA mode will give you reasonable results until this gets fixed.