It did trip, as I recall Dave mentioning. The breaker is to protect the building wiring, not devices.
It did trip, as I recall Dave mentioning. The breaker is to protect the building wiring, not devices.
why did it blow the breaker if its supposed to fuse??
Wait... What? Who blew what breaker now?
UL considers the breaker tripping during transformer tests a FAIL ... Troll be gone
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It was literally seconds. If I hadn't pulled the plug and tossed the unit in a box to trap the smoke, the building ...
Web forums entertain me, but i won't waste any money on that. You can pay for that if you want, or weller can do it, and/or answer something better for the electronics community.
Nobody will just give away money to random people in a web forum, anyways, you know?You're eager to harm the reputation of a company based on conjecture, but are not willing to spend a dime to back it up. At least we know what you feel your statements are worth. I've already said I'd put in $50 of my own, but feel it should be community effort of all those making claims here. And I'm not even making claims, I'm just curious what claims hold up.
It did trip, as I recall Dave mentioning. The breaker is to protect the building wiring, not devices.As far as I know, Dave pulled the plug. I may be mistaken.
You were arguing that the transformer is unsafe.
I also noticed the WE1010 PCB has a 4A fuse, so that's three protective devices on the secondary side.
Perhaps trolls can comment on why two fuses is better than none.
@ DJ 99% sure from your report that pulling the plug caused the RCD part to trip, not the breaker
RCBOs are great space savers and good enough for most situations
but not much help identifying trip issues of misbehaving gear.
It did trip, as I recall Dave mentioning. The breaker is to protect the building wiring, not devices.
Citation, please?
2.5 PROTECTION AGAINST OVERCURRENT 2.5.1 General Active conductors shall be protected by one or more devices that automatically disconnect the supply in the event of overcurrent, before such overcurrent attains a magnitude or duration that could cause injury to persons or livestock or damage because of excessive temperatures or electromechanical stresses in the electrical installation.
UL considers the breaker tripping during transformer tests a FAIL ... Troll be gone
The following users thanked this post: Electro DetectiveIt was literally seconds. If I hadn't pulled the plug and tossed the unit in a box to trap the smoke, the building ...
It was mentioned in the video, and the topic. When people believe something hard enough, it starts to become reality in their head. But oh no ... I'm a troll and a corporate schill
People are starting to feel very threatened and take this VERY personally
DJ states he has a 16 amp RCBO breaker (single or dual space combined RCD/GFCI and MCB)
DJ states he has a 16 amp RCBO breaker (single or dual space combined RCD/GFCI and MCB)
e.g. If a 140 amp transformer welder pulling constant and intermittent 15 to 35 amps current at 240v
at near and full short circuit conditions on the transformer secondary (during actual non stop arc welding with 3.2 or 4mm electrodes)
it will do it tough to pop the 16 amp breaker but may/will eventually...
this is assuming the welder and leads are in good shape with direct plug in connection to a standard GPO wall socket
(i.e. no amateurish backyarder flimsy 10 amp extension cord malarky)
So what chance has a sizzling lil Weller trannie got to pop DJs breaker ? > PowerBall win chances ?
At best if it's plugged in to a 4 or 6 way power strip board with a thermal breaker/Reset thingie, the ones with the small black or red switch usually near the cord entry,
it may heat up around the 8 to 12 amp range (depending on the breaker design/curve) and trip the power board.
You were arguing that the transformer is unsafe.
No, I was not.
you cannot guarantee the safety of a transformer that was smoking it's enamel.Why not?
Because the enamel melts and the turns short out, and this likely happens in a progressive accelerated fashion, effectively feeding on itself in a thermal runaway of sorts.
@ timelessbeing, there's no feeling threatened or personal vibe here mate
Dave, dont worry. Darwinism will take good care of these people.
pulling the plug caused the RCD part to trip
@ timelessbeing, there's no feeling threatened or personal vibe here mate
Thank you. Likewise, and I do appreciate your sense of humour.
Some are getting a bit defensive, and this guy wants me to die.Dave, dont worry. Darwinism will take good care of these people.
@ timelessbeing, there's no feeling threatened or personal vibe here mate
Thank you. Likewise, and I do appreciate your sense of humour.
Some are getting a bit defensive, and this guy wants me to die.Dave, dont worry. Darwinism will take good care of these people.
Can you not see the potential for primary to secondary isolation failure and unfused mains into the iron element ?
pulling the plug caused the RCD part to trip
Please pardon my ignorance, but how does that work?
pulling the plug caused the RCD part to trip
Please pardon my ignorance, but how does that work?
It's a fair question, so here goes...
When he pulled the plug, chances are that both the active and neutral pins did not come out at the same time,
so the RCD sensed a 30ma+ imbalance to earth/ground/third pin with the smouldering load pulling amps, and popped
If the MCB section had popped, there would have been a spark and the zapped plug/socket eminating a slight scent of...brimstone ?