One post gets reported and yet it's missed what caused that post to be made and then be reported.
Like I mentioned a few posts back, there is always 2 sides to a story.Tautech, I think I see the mods' POV: each individual only has control over oneself, not over others. Counteracting every dissonant POV or attack is the entire responsibility of the poster and no one else. If more followed this, the stupid US metric thread would have fizzled 40 pages ago, but it kept going though the actions of a troll playing others like a fiddle.
And yes, I have swallowed my pride and walked away from threads many times before simply because it wasn't worth it.
One post gets reported and yet it's missed what caused that post to be made and then be reported.
Like I mentioned a few posts back, there is always 2 sides to a story.Tautech, I think I see the mods' POV: each individual only has control over oneself, not over others. Counteracting every dissonant POV or attack is the entire responsibility of the poster and no one else. If more followed this, the stupid US metric thread would have fizzled 40 pages ago, but it kept going though the actions of a troll playing others like a fiddle.
And yes, I have swallowed my pride and walked away from threads many times before simply because it wasn't worth it.The difficulty is, who is the troll. There can be 10 trolls against 1 who is fighting for the right thing. It's called group dynamics, or bullying. It's always easier for an admin to take the one out of the game. This does not serve the truth, which was the fundamental part of the discourse. Even you don't know whether the one against the ten others doesn't rather speak the truth against a quantitative superiority.
One post gets reported and yet it's missed what caused that post to be made and then be reported.
Like I mentioned a few posts back, there is always 2 sides to a story.Tautech, I think I see the mods' POV: each individual only has control over oneself, not over others. Counteracting every dissonant POV or attack is the entire responsibility of the poster and no one else. If more followed this, the stupid US metric thread would have fizzled 40 pages ago, but it kept going though the actions of a troll playing others like a fiddle.
And yes, I have swallowed my pride and walked away from threads many times before simply because it wasn't worth it.
Also, I'd wager that a significant part of derailed threads there's no way to know "the truth" - it is surely true for the example I mentioned (US metric) or the political/sociological debates. This makes moderation quite difficult.
Understood and agree in principle, however how moderators deal with this is not always consistent and there's other discussions happening about this currently happening. That we can discuss this is great but it does feel like airing our dirty laundry in public as Dave has made it quite clear he doesn't want to engage in discussions about this privately.
We can only hope some points discussed here get taken onboard.
I'm not sure if the Mods/Admins are aware but there seems to be a (technical, not content-related) problem with one of the threads in the Test Equipment forum:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds5104x-disappointing/
The page ends at reply #17, later all subsequent replies are not visible as isn't the bottom part with the ad that's visible on other thread's pages.
First I thought it's just a problem with my browser but then I noted that Tom66 noted that this seems to be a forum bug.
Other threads I looked at seemed to be fine but this weren't many so there may well be other threads affected by this.
There is no reason for having multiple accounts on a forum unless it's for trolling... which we see proven here.
Then how do you post when a shilling mod is banning every account you make as soon as he suspects it is you? I've created hundreds of accounts on this site over the years. I rarely use any account for more than a few months, this is how you keep entities from selling your information. You use a burner email address, make an account (or group of accounts themed, like birds! Or spaceships! Etc ) and use them for a while and then dump them.
Watch this, the shill mod will ban this account, even though I am being polite and all that means is I will make another account next time I want to post
Watch this, the shill mod will ban this account, even though I am being polite
QuoteWatch this, the shill mod will ban this account, even though I am being polite
I would suggest that using insulting descriptors isn't being polite. Even if true (and I have no idea either way) it is being deliberately provocative to describe him thus.
Then how do you post when a shilling mod is banning every account you make as soon as he suspects it is you? I've created hundreds of accounts on this site over the years. I rarely use any account for more than a few months, this is how you keep entities from selling your information. You use a burner email address, make an account (or group of accounts themed, like birds! Or spaceships! Etc ) and use them for a while and then dump them.
Watch this, the shill mod will ban this account, even though I am being polite and all that means is I will make another account next time I want to post
As far as using your real name... On the internet? Really?
Disagree on the china manufacturing quality, though. My experience with chinese quality is that it has become more consistent, but not better. I am excluding Taiwan from this because Taiwan is not china; Taiwan quality has been decent for some time and has definitely gotten better over time. I have quite a bit of experience trying to teach chinese engineers and my impression is that there is no actual design that takes place in mainland china