The government needs to ensure that the title of ‘Engineer’ is legally protected as it is in many other countries around the world, including Germany, France, USA and Canada. The title needs to be legally protected for Professional Engineers.
Protecting the title will:
-Increase the salaries of Engineers
-Increase the respect society will have for Engineers
-Increase the number of youngsters wanting to pursue careers in Engineering
-Increase the reputation of British Engineers once more
Society misunderstands what an Engineer actually does; they do NOT fix coffee machines and boilers.
And they miss reason number 1 why you should consider seeking to get the title protected: To avoid any retarded doofus with a blinking Arduino who dropped out of school, because you don't learn anything at school, can pose as an engineer.
Do you want the trash men calling themselves "Sanitation Engineers"?
And they miss reason number 1 why you should consider seeking to get the title protected: To avoid any retarded doofus with a blinking Arduino who dropped out of school, because you don't learn anything at school, can pose as an engineer.
But at the same time, a lot of 'engineers' with degrees are completely stupid. I should know, I studied alongside them.
They couldn't set up a bench power supply. They could barely do the maths.
Get a 2:2 degree, while being utterly useless and call yourself an engineer, how is that better than learning your own stuff and doing it properly?
It seems that the criteria for being able to use the title will be that you have a degree. Fact is, that shouldn't be an extra obstacle to someone that knows what they're doing but lacks the paperwork.
I fully agree the title 'engineer' should be protected.
It needs to be a reserved title for the person that is in charge of an engine ,as in steam-engine, running on parallel tracks.
Any other usage should be prohibited.
Let's protect our historic heritage
What sort of safety issues are you thinking of, B@W?
And they miss reason number 1 why you should consider seeking to get the title protected: To avoid any retarded doofus with a blinking Arduino who dropped out of school, because you don't learn anything at school, can pose as an engineer.
But at the same time, a lot of 'engineers' with degrees are completely stupid. I should know, I studied alongside them.
They couldn't set up a bench power supply. They could barely do the maths.
Get a 2:2 degree, while being utterly useless and call yourself an engineer, how is that better than learning your own stuff and doing it properly?
It seems that the criteria for being able to use the title will be that you have a degree. Fact is, that shouldn't be an extra obstacle to someone that knows what they're doing but lacks the paperwork.
That argument doesn't hold water - there are stupid doctors, but that doesn't mean an ambulance driver should be allowed to call himself a doctor because he considers himself smart.
What sort of safety issues are you thinking of, B@W?
Our world is full of technical stuff that is highly dangerous, yet we use it daily and rarely anything happens. I like to see this stuff developed by people who have a clue. While some hurdle will not keep all idiots away, it will keep some idiots away, which is a start.
What sort of safety issues are you thinking of, B@W?
Our world is full of technical stuff that is highly dangerous, yet we use it daily and rarely anything happens. I like to see this stuff developed by people who have a clue. While some hurdle will not keep all idiots away, it will keep some idiots away, which is a start.
And they miss reason number 1 why you should consider seeking to get the title protected: To avoid any retarded doofus with a blinking Arduino who dropped out of school, because you don't learn anything at school, can pose as an engineer.
But at the same time, a lot of 'engineers' with degrees are completely stupid. I should know, I studied alongside them.
They couldn't set up a bench power supply. They could barely do the maths.
Get a 2:2 degree, while being utterly useless and call yourself an engineer, how is that better than learning your own stuff and doing it properly?
It seems that the criteria for being able to use the title will be that you have a degree. Fact is, that shouldn't be an extra obstacle to someone that knows what they're doing but lacks the paperwork.
That argument doesn't hold water - there are stupid doctors, but that doesn't mean an ambulance driver should be allowed to call himself a doctor because he considers himself smart.
There's an obvious reason to protect the term doctor, it's in the public interest.
But then, is Dr. Bob a PhD or a MD? What part of protecting the term stops Dr Bob, PhD having a go at some minor surgery?
And they miss reason number 1 why you should consider seeking to get the title protected: To avoid any retarded doofus with a blinking Arduino who dropped out of school, because you don't learn anything at school, can pose as an engineer.
But at the same time, a lot of 'engineers' with degrees are completely stupid. I should know, I studied alongside them.
They couldn't set up a bench power supply. They could barely do the maths.
Get a 2:2 degree, while being utterly useless and call yourself an engineer, how is that better than learning your own stuff and doing it properly?
It seems that the criteria for being able to use the title will be that you have a degree. Fact is, that shouldn't be an extra obstacle to someone that knows what they're doing but lacks the paperwork.
That argument doesn't hold water - there are stupid doctors, but that doesn't mean an ambulance driver should be allowed to call himself a doctor because he considers himself smart.
There's an obvious reason to protect the term doctor, it's in the public interest.
But then, is Dr. Bob a PhD or a MD? What part of protecting the term stops Dr Bob, PhD having a go at some minor surgery?
Anything signed Dr ___ is by a PhD.
An MD will sign Mr/Mrs/Ms _____ MD <bunch of acronyms>
What sort of safety issues are you thinking of, B@W?
Our world is full of technical stuff that is highly dangerous, yet we use it daily and rarely anything happens. I like to see this stuff developed by people who have a clue. While some hurdle will not keep all idiots away, it will keep some idiots away, which is a start.
It's already developed by people with the necessary skills. What would protecting a title change?
What sort of safety issues are you thinking of, B@W?
Our world is full of technical stuff that is highly dangerous, yet we use it daily and rarely anything happens. I like to see this stuff developed by people who have a clue. While some hurdle will not keep all idiots away, it will keep some idiots away, which is a start.
It's already developed by people with the necessary skills. What would protecting a title change?
Oh come on, existing things get changed, new things get developed. And don't tell me you don't have legal qualification requirements in the UK when it comes to the development of dangerous stuff. Otherwise, next time an elevator door opens in front of you you better hope the control logic was not done by a self styled engineer with a blinking Arduino. Stepping into the elevator shaft because the cabin is not there is not funny.
And they miss reason number 1 why you should consider seeking to get the title protected: To avoid any retarded doofus with a blinking Arduino who dropped out of school, because you don't learn anything at school, can pose as an engineer.
But at the same time, a lot of 'engineers' with degrees are completely stupid. I should know, I studied alongside them.
They couldn't set up a bench power supply. They could barely do the maths.
Get a 2:2 degree, while being utterly useless and call yourself an engineer, how is that better than learning your own stuff and doing it properly?
It seems that the criteria for being able to use the title will be that you have a degree. Fact is, that shouldn't be an extra obstacle to someone that knows what they're doing but lacks the paperwork.
That argument doesn't hold water - there are stupid doctors, but that doesn't mean an ambulance driver should be allowed to call himself a doctor because he considers himself smart.
There's an obvious reason to protect the term doctor, it's in the public interest.
But then, is Dr. Bob a PhD or a MD? What part of protecting the term stops Dr Bob, PhD having a go at some minor surgery?
Anything signed Dr ___ is by a PhD.
An MD will sign Mr/Mrs/Ms _____ MD <bunch of acronyms>
In the UK, MDs are usually Dr. and surgeons/consultants are usually Mr.
And they miss reason number 1 why you should consider seeking to get the title protected: To avoid any retarded doofus with a blinking Arduino who dropped out of school, because you don't learn anything at school, can pose as an engineer.
But at the same time, a lot of 'engineers' with degrees are completely stupid. I should know, I studied alongside them.
They couldn't set up a bench power supply. They could barely do the maths.
Get a 2:2 degree, while being utterly useless and call yourself an engineer, how is that better than learning your own stuff and doing it properly?
It seems that the criteria for being able to use the title will be that you have a degree. Fact is, that shouldn't be an extra obstacle to someone that knows what they're doing but lacks the paperwork.
That argument doesn't hold water - there are stupid doctors, but that doesn't mean an ambulance driver should be allowed to call himself a doctor because he considers himself smart.
There's an obvious reason to protect the term doctor, it's in the public interest.
But then, is Dr. Bob a PhD or a MD? What part of protecting the term stops Dr Bob, PhD having a go at some minor surgery?
Anything signed Dr ___ is by a PhD.
An MD will sign Mr/Mrs/Ms _____ MD <bunch of acronyms>
In the UK, MDs are usually Dr. and surgeons/consultants are usually Mr.
Can they change the title on their passport/drivers license to Dr with an MD, DDS, PharmD, JD?
These are professional doctorates in Canada and cannot sign Dr or change their legal title to it.
Also, how the hell do you become a surgeon without an MD?