Ok who's the genius that password protected the spreadsheet so I can't actually use Excel to analyze the data??
Ok who's the genius that password protected the spreadsheet so I can't actually use Excel to analyze the data??
The author did that. Since it is a free resource, be more respectful of someone else's time and effort - especially if you don't know the reasons.
Thank you for this wonderful reference, I have used it quite a bit.
I think the Keithley 196 DC current accuracy is incorrect. According to the datasheet, it is 0.09%, but on the spreadsheet it is listed as 0.9%.
That would change its color from amber to white, as with the 193A.
Few mistakes from meters I have:
AV4 should have 1uV resolution, not 10.
AN870 should have 0.05% DC accuracy and 10nA should be green, nA acc also should be green(?).
RM303 could be added (20000 count, 0.05%) and all 6000 count Chinese specials probably do not deserve to be in the list, there is too many of them these days.
The handheld multimeter spreadsheet I downloaded says "Edition: 12-Jul 2017" in the upper right corner. Am I looking at the right thing?
I'm trying to use the spreadsheet to pick a multimeter out for automobile usage. I noticed the list doesn't include clamp meters, although I know it's possible to spend another $100-200 USD on a hall effect attachment. I also noticed that the maximum voltage and amperage isn't listed, as far as I could tell; for most gasoline or diesel cars, the maximum voltage you're going to run into is 24V (12V for my specific car) and 120A for the alternator fuse (other fuses are 20-30A). As far as I could tell, the maximum for most of the products on the list was 10A, which is too low for my use case. Is there another resource I can use similar to this one that includes maximum A/V figures, especially for meters with built-in clamps? Thank you for making this spreadsheet and for any advice.
I took an attempt at filling out the fields for one meter, but I don't understand how a lot of the fields are meant to be completed.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WSny1ZfRFrUGQkNDMVRiZ-_DMdDsrKqmf2h4BnY0hTA/edit?usp=sharing
Nice chart. IMO voltage ratings would be helpfull (i almost bought pc7000 but there is only 10V on duty etc)
Sorry for the unnecessary reply, but the forum is broken and I cannot subscribe to this topic any other way...
Does anyone know how to download the current files? The first post says the last update was in March of 2021. When I download the handheld meter file, tho, the heading says "Edition: 12-Jul 2017", more than five years ago. Lots of interesting meters are missing, and many obsolete (discontinued) meters are still present.
Does anyone know how to download the current files? The first post says the last update was in March of 2021. When I download the handheld meter file, tho, the heading says "Edition: 12-Jul 2017", more than five years ago. Lots of interesting meters are missing, and many obsolete (discontinued) meters are still present.
I understand how this wouldn't be obvious, but the "last edit" is for the post being edited. *Not* for the list being updated.
That being said, it does look to be in bad need of an update, I probably wouldn't have the time to do such an update myself, though I am drawn to the idea... I think I'd post it on gitlab or something so that it could be updated by the community instead of depending on one person.
Does anyone know where the pricing info for the DMM list came from? Was it new or used? I ask because pricing I'm finding is significantly higher, like 300% or more for some of these meters -- and I'm talking about the ones that are still in production.
EDIT: It occurred to me after the fact that my comment might be misinterpreted as asking for an update in the pricing category of the table. Though certainly accuracy in pricing is important, the data as is has some historical value if it's the MSRP.
Wow! That took a lot of work! With reference to my other post...what column denotes the sampling rate?
Owon's XDM 1041 is painfully missing from the list
They advertise it as a "True RMS DMM" and at least for what I've been using it, it has been my bang for the buck. I'm not knowledgable enough to have all the info needed - but if there's some standard test I can do to add it to the list I'd be happy to oblige.
I noticed one of the columns are labelled mF... right next to pF.
I know pF is picoFarads, so is mF meant to represent miliFarads on the capacitor measurement scale?...
A LONG time ago, mF meant MICRO Farad. I'm old. And I don't have any idea whether that is the meaning of mF in the table. The SI prefixes were generally adopted internationally in 1960. mF might also mean millions of pF (just as in capacitor markings).
Nope, that was MFD.
Milli never meant Micro, not even in countries that still measure with thumbs and sticks to this day.
Nope, that was MFD.
Milli never meant Micro, not even in countries that still measure with thumbs and sticks to this day.
And...you think that M means micro, not MEGA? Where do you think I said or intimated that milli [ever] meant micro?
that milli [ever] meant micro?
A LONG time ago, mF meant MICRO Farad.
Right there mate.
Plus, "MFD" is not SI prefix + SI unit, so they can do whatever they want in terms of capitalization. And it's pretty easy to distinguish a microfarad cap from a megafarad cap of the same voltage.
MFD use died out for good reason, though.
Don't call me mate. Don't mis-quote me. Have a good life.
Since you're smart and I am dumb- how do I block you on this board?
Nope, that was MFD.
Milli never meant Micro, not even in countries that still measure with thumbs and sticks to this day.
I've seen mF mean microfarad more than a few times over the years.
Also MF, and maybe some poeple got lazy and were used to pF, so they use mF as well for micro.
MFD was what was commonly printed on early caps, but often shortend to MF on schematics.
Don't call me mate. Don't mis-quote me. Have a good life.
Since you're smart and I am dumb- how do I block you on this board?
Better hit back with a reference.
Profile->Account Settings->Modify Profile has ignore options.
I'm guite sure there were also mmF, but can't remember which it was, milli milli or micro micro.
Though, I do remember that either pico or nano was missing.
I'm guite sure there were also mmF, but can't remember which it was, milli milli or micro micro.
Though, I do remember that either pico or nano was missing.
I remember "the great nanofarad debate" in Electronics Australia magazine on whether or not they should change all their circuits to use nF and not just pF and uF.
Spoiler, the nF won.
I'm guite sure there were also mmF, but can't remember which it was, milli milli or micro micro.
Though, I do remember that either pico or nano was missing.
I remember "the great nanofarad debate" in Electronics Australia magazine on whether or not they should change all their circuits to use nF and not just pF and uF.
Spoiler, the nF won.
In Brazilian magazines the flip to nF happened through the early 70s - although I was still a toddler/young child then, during the 80s I used to buy used magazines from the 60s~70s and could see the shift happening in retrospect. Quite interesting. A similar story happened with the shift from "condensador" (condenser) to capacitor, which happened in the late 50s - early 60s (also witnessed by me through old used magazines).
As for the multiplier factors, I have seen it all: µµF and mmF representing pF, MFD (common in oil capacitors) and MF/mF representing µF, and so on. It probably had to do with the capabilities of the stamping/printing machines of the time.