My opinion FWIW:
1. Don't just randomly select anyone - they may not want/need it - people should opt-in to the giveaway.
since keysight have exclusion countries where their official contest is NOT applicable.
which is really the entire world (excluding Austria, Canada (excluding the Province of Quebec), Chile, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, India, Ireland, Japan, Korea, New Zealand, Poland, South Africa, Switzerland, Taiwan, United Kingdom, United States (excluding Florida, New York, and Rhode Island), and Venezuela.)
3. Opting in should require some declaration/honour code/whatever - to try to avoid a quick eBay resale.
I would sell it, as I know that even if I wish so, I will never bee good enough to have an use for such piece of equipment.
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Would this be so bad??
If Dave was looking to give away $15k he would give away $15k.
This is a need vs greed issue. I could enter every contest with the intention to sell whatever I got from it if I won, but that pollutes the bucket of names and gives people who actually need this specific tool to do a job but cannot afford it a lower chance of winning, and it does a disservice to the community. This is precisely why I think having to justify or describe the intended usage is necessary for giveaways of this magnitude.
Except this is Keysight providing the prize, and Dave is picking a winner and distributing it. It's not like he bought the scope himself.
Would an answer of "I need a scope to learn/work on but can't afford it. If I win this I'll sell it for 10k, buy a Rigol DS1054Z, and have enough cash left over to pay rent and buy food for the next few months" be acceptable?
It is counter to the sentiment of the giveaway. Wait for other contests and giveaways that offer equipment you can use. There are plenty. If Dave was looking to give away $15k he would give away $15k. This is a need vs greed issue. I could enter every contest with the intention to sell whatever I got from it if I won, but that pollutes the bucket of names and gives people who actually need this specific tool to do a job but cannot afford it a lower chance of winning, and it does a disservice to the community. This is precisely why I think having to justify or describe the intended usage is necessary for giveaways of this magnitude.
I'm not too sure Keysight would be enthusiastic about their products being given away just to be resold.
Please... There are 100, maybe 200 people on this entire forum that are doing things complex enough to need a 1GHz mixed signal scope to get the job done, and they all probably have access to these tools one way or the other.
You'd be hard pressed to find a single person that really needed a tool like this and couldn't get access to one.
Except this is Keysight providing the prize, and Dave is picking a winner and distributing it. It's not like he bought the scope himself.I am aware and that's a valid point, yet it is still Dave's influence that makes this giveaway possible, in addition I'm not too sure Keysight would be enthusiastic about their products being given away just to be resold.
Except this is Keysight providing the prize, and Dave is picking a winner and distributing it. It's not like he bought the scope himself.I am aware and that's a valid point, yet it is still Dave's influence that makes this giveaway possible, in addition I'm not too sure Keysight would be enthusiastic about their products being given away just to be resold.Would an answer of "I need a scope to learn/work on but can't afford it. If I win this I'll sell it for 10k, buy a Rigol DS1054Z, and have enough cash left over to pay rent and buy food for the next few months" be acceptable?Not really. If you have issues keeping the lights on and putting food on the table then you have much bigger problems in life and most likely cannot afford to put a device like this to regular use. If you could (afford the cost of parts and boards and other supplies) then you're not really having trouble buying food, and if you ARE having trouble buying food yet can still buy the supplies to put a device like this to use, then you probably aren't a responsible enough individual to warrant being given such a sensitive piece of test equipment. ("You" being a purely hypothetical general identifier)
..You'd be hard pressed to find a single person that really needed a tool like this and couldn't get access to one.
My point was my original response to the person who asked what was wrong with straight up selling it. It would just be nice if people didn't just hop onto every giveaway to treat them like cash lotteries.
By having forum members use Twitter hashtags, the forum faces outward, exposing Keysight to a larger audience that includes members' greater social networks --some of whom make decisions about related equipment purchases. In fact, the forums' extended social network likely have collective deeper pockets and just needs a little awakening or remembering about Keysight..
DaveJ mentioned in other thread about not liking hashtags.. and wanting some benefit in exchange for processing the giveaway.
eevblog has 2 twitter accounts. This is a chance to leverage them to increase exposure for eevblog as well as Keysight. In the other thread I suggested 2 types of hashtags.
1st scope to be offered to non-profit groups like hacker spaces so that a number of people would benefit from it, rather than it going straight on ebay and the pocketing the cash. Get the groups to send in a post card or a video with an idea for an EEV blog video.
How about you announce the winner in a new thread and give them a couple of days to get in touch? That'll keep the n00bs coming back for a while and some might get hooked.
There are 100, maybe 200 people on this entire forum that are doing things complex enough to need a 1GHz mixed signal scope to get the job done, and they all probably have access to these tools one way or the other. You'd be hard pressed to find a single person that really needed a tool like this and couldn't get access to one.
Quote from: selkathguy on Yesterday at 10:20:46 AM
I'm not too sure Keysight would be enthusiastic about their products being given away just to be resold.QuoteThey wouldn't give two shits, because their only goal is to get the publicity from the giveaway. What happens to the scope after that is none of their concern. Not only that, I bet if the winner tried to resell the unit afterwards, there would be a shitstorm on the internet, pouring even more water on Keysight's mill. They would appreciate it.
You grossly overestimate the importance and reach of a twitter for stuff like this.
Simply announcing a giveaway video will likely get say 50,000 views, that will swamp any "publicity" via twitter.
Forget it, it's not going to happen on twitter. It gains me nothing, my twitter feed will be polluted, and people will game the system.
Copy-and-pasted boilerplate. It would mean something in a contest where entrants are submitting something creative.