Our power here is pretty reliable, that being said if it goes down during the winter, not so pleasant that happened a few years ago during a nasty ice storm, no power for about 2-3 days, I’m glad we had a conventional fireplace.
I’m pretty comfortable with auto engines as one of my hobbies is auto racing so I have assembled and disassembled plenty of engines etc.
I have a cheap 7kW generator (Neighbour gave it to me in broken state and I fixed it), however the thing is really loud when under load. Honda makes some really quiet small generators and some sort of quiet mid size generators, but they are fairly expensive and not really quiet.
My thought of the day is to pickup a used small engine from a wrecked econo-box car perhaps 1.5 litre and mate it to a suitable generator something about 20-30kW (will depend on what is available used and cheap). I will need some sort of gear box to increase speed to generator perhaps 2:1 or 2.5:1 would allow the engine to run at about 1500 rpm. Will need to make some sort of speed control to keep the generator at 3600 rpm as load changes.
If I re-use the original exhaust and plumb it up say 8’ and away from the house I would think that it would be near in-audible from the house. I would mount this contraption in the smallest metal shed I can find on craigslist and about 100’ from the house.
Wacky idea or fun project what do you think?
Keep in mind I’m retired and enjoy pet projects.
What would be really cool / (uhm hot actually) is if that engine can supply your house radiators as well. I guess in the US they most often pump hot air around but what is common in Canada?
Here in Amish counties, that is quite commonly done. Many people believe Amish won't use electricity as it is evil or something. That is not so. The prohibition is against using electrical power from public power lines. Many of their industries generate electricity on site. As one example, they are well known for work with canvas materials for tents/boat covers/etc. Sewing machines don't run on diesel or horses. Those enterprises generate on site. Woodworking is another example.
I don't have access to any of those plans, but it is certainly not a crazy idea. An old 4-cylinder, air-cooled VW engine might be simple. Meeting pollution restrictions might be a problem. Small diesels (Kubota, Yanmar, others) are another possibility, but will likely be more expensive than a used automotive engine. Riding mower engines (e.g., Kohler 25 HP) do not have a very good record for longevity.
I would consider a 1.0L engine from an early Honda Insight, with the (IMA) Integrated Motor Assist still attached. That motor will run quite efficiently at 3600RPM, but if you are particularly clever you can use slower speeds and the IMA to generate lower levels of power when demand is low, then spin it up to use the main generator for full loads.
There are ways to muffle the sound from generators ranging from simple plywood sheets to sound absorbing materials placed at strategic angles. Sound comes from both intake and exhaust, so muffler on exhaust may not be enough. Construct a sound deadening box for generator or car engine of your choice if you have dedicated space for it.
Our power here is pretty reliable, that being said if it goes down during the winter, not so pleasant that happened a few years ago during a nasty ice storm, no power for about 2-3 days, I’m glad we had a conventional fireplace.
My thought of the day is to pickup a used small engine from a wrecked econo-box car perhaps 1.5 litre and mate it to a suitable generator something about 20-30kW (will depend on what is available used and cheap). I will need some sort of gear box to increase speed to generator perhaps 2:1 or 2.5:1 would allow the engine to run at about 1500 rpm. Will need to make some sort of speed control to keep the generator at 3600 rpm as load changes.
There are ways to muffle the sound from generators ranging from simple plywood sheets to sound absorbing materials placed at strategic angles. Sound comes from both intake and exhaust, so muffler on exhaust may not be enough. Construct a sound deadening box for generator or car engine of your choice if you have dedicated space for it.
Our power here is pretty reliable, that being said if it goes down during the winter, not so pleasant that happened a few years ago during a nasty ice storm, no power for about 2-3 days, I’m glad we had a conventional fireplace.
I had that experience during the 2007 North American Ice Storm. I burned a month's worth of wood in one week to keep from freezing. Since then I bought a backup generator, which I have used yearly since, and backup propane and kerosene heating.QuoteMy thought of the day is to pickup a used small engine from a wrecked econo-box car perhaps 1.5 litre and mate it to a suitable generator something about 20-30kW (will depend on what is available used and cheap). I will need some sort of gear box to increase speed to generator perhaps 2:1 or 2.5:1 would allow the engine to run at about 1500 rpm. Will need to make some sort of speed control to keep the generator at 3600 rpm as load changes.
For simplicity, I would consider using pulleys and belts instead of a geared transmission.
They are less common, but a 4-pole generator head would allow engine operation at 1800 RPM. They are more common with backup diesel generators.
I would consider a 1.0L engine from an early Honda Insight, with the (IMA) Integrated Motor Assist still attached. That motor will run quite efficiently at 3600RPM, but if you are particularly clever you can use slower speeds and the IMA to generate lower levels of power when demand is low, then spin it up to use the main generator for full loads.
Another great idea 4 pole generator
The belt and pulleys suggestion is also a great idea, makes things much simpler, need to figure out belt requirements, probably need one of those double or triple wide pulleys for 25 ish HP?
There are ways to muffle the sound from generators ranging from simple plywood sheets to sound absorbing materials placed at strategic angles. Sound comes from both intake and exhaust, so muffler on exhaust may not be enough. Construct a sound deadening box for generator or car engine of your choice if you have dedicated space for it.
There's no way you'll ever get one anywhere near as quiet as a typical car engine. Not only does sound come from the intake and exhaust, but there is a lot of mechanical noise from small air cooled engines. There is no water jacket in the block or head, it is just thin aluminum, everything is thin and light, they are not particularly well balanced, and a conventional generator screams along at 3600 RPM regardless of load so it's going to be noisy no matter what you do.
Personally I got a Honda EU2000i inverter generator a few years ago and it's a lovely little machine. Despite the fact that it is also a small air cooled engine they have done a remarkable job of making it quiet, and since engine speed is decoupled from the frequency of the generated power, it spends most of its time near idle. It's quiet enough that I can let it run all night long without disturbing my neighbors. With it sitting out in front of my garage I can't hear it at all inside the house.
Gasoline is a less than ideal fuel for emergency use though as it goes bad fairly quickly.
Gasoline is a less than ideal fuel for emergency use though as it goes bad fairly quickly.Yeah, regular gasoline has very short shelf life as it is made to be as cheap as possible (2-4 weeks, maybe up to 3 months in some cases - due to evaporation, chemical spoiling, water ingestion, ethanol content, layer separation). This is all very bad for small petrol engines (fuel lines, rubber seals, carburetors gum up and metals rot from inside). Car engines can deal it with it better due to bigger lines and fuel injection.
If petrol generator is intended to be used only in emergencies, regular fuel may be spoiled from sitting. One solution (although not the most economical) is to store more expensive alkalyte fuel (synthetic petrol fuel mix, stable for 2-4 years). There are few manufacturers of it.