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The 121GW isn't out of stock: https://www.welectron.com/EEVBlog-121GW-Data-Logging-Multimeter-with-Bluetooth
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The 121GW isn't out of stock: https://www.welectron.com/EEVBlog-121GW-Data-Logging-Multimeter-with-Bluetooth
Well I guess it depends on where you go, I checked here, the most logical place first I would have thought https://www.eevblog.com/product/121gw/ -
I did the same and ordered there last time it was in stock. The meter is stuck somewhere in transit... Didn't know about the other distributer at that time.
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I did the same and ordered there last time it was in stock. The meter is stuck somewhere in transit... Didn't know about the other distributer at that time.
Have you been given a dispatch date etc then or are assuming that its stuck in transit? I take it the "out of stock" notice could mean 1 of 2 things, 1/ It has been temporarily suspended from sale because they are having getting parts or a problem has arisen and they are engineering a why out of it, or, 2, Dave no longer sells this direct but relies on Amazon USA and Welectron in Germany but hasn't said so directly on his own site? -
The 121GW isn't out of stock: https://www.welectron.com/EEVBlog-121GW-Data-Logging-Multimeter-with-Bluetooth
Well I guess it depends on where you go, I checked here, the most logical place first I would have thought https://www.eevblog.com/product/121gw/
Some mark up! 40 quid! That's near quarter of the price of the meter again, Greedy cunts!! -
What's that..only 0.05% dc accuracy?, the BM867 is 0.03%
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What's that..only 0.05% dc accuracy?, the BM867 is 0.03%
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stick the 867 on 500,00 count mode and you'll get an extra digit
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Not sure if you were serious or not... But 300 AUD (excluding GST i.e. taxes) is about equal to 191.80EUR (excluding VAT i.e. taxes).. welectron sells at 200.84€ (excluding taxes).. I'd think about 9 euros can be considered decent enough markup.The 121GW isn't out of stock: https://www.welectron.com/EEVBlog-121GW-Data-Logging-Multimeter-with-Bluetooth
Well I guess it depends on where you go, I checked here, the most logical place first I would have thought https://www.eevblog.com/product/121gw/
Some mark up! 40 quid! That's near quarter of the price of the meter again, Greedy cunts!!
Or were you referring to the government (which gets the VAT of about 40 euros) with that "Greedy cunts"? Or the population and companies of the country who gets (share of) the benefits from that tax, eventually? -
Dave had only a limited amount of meters available.
I've got a tracking number. Dispatch: July 27
Since August 1 "Arrived at transit facility" (Frankfurt). -
Dave had only a limited amount of meters available.
Where is the final destination? I've had similar things on items from China and next thing I know is that the postman or courier is knocking on the door with it in his hand. Sometimes the true status does not get updated until after its delivered, which begs the question as to why?
I've got a tracking number. Dispatch: July 27
Since August 1 "Arrived at transit facility" (Frankfurt). -
The final destination is Hamburg.
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Do you think that Customs may have intercepted it for import duty to be paid?
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I'd like to have your findings / feelings about this 121GW once you get it and have had some time to play with it because I still have not kicked it out contention yet, I could do with a decent meter that was smaller and more capable then my other stalwarts the Flukes 27.
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Could be but after 10 days I would like to get a letter telling me to pick it up or something like that...
I can compare the meter with my Gossen Metrahit One Plus. Maybe PM me in a few weeks ;-) -
Could be but after 10 days I would like to get a letter telling me to pick it up or something like that...
I will do that for sure, I watched Joes video where he had a Gossen Metrahit, not too sure which model it was off the top of my head, but I have to say that considering the price and the stories I had heard about prior to the video, I was not in the slightest little bit impressed by them. I got the impression that they were trading on maybe past history.
I can compare the meter with my Gossen Metrahit One Plus. Maybe PM me in a few weeks ;-) -
I do not understand why this is a dilemma, the meters are quite different, so what are your needs?
Both have similar specs, similar price.
121GW is less reliable, but much smaller and has much more features.
I always take size into account because my EDC backpack is rarely less than 10kg, and I sometimes have to carry meter, and soldering station (ZD916).
I don't have space at home for even small electronics lab, I use my living room table when I need to so I need to take WAF into account.
This is why I consider highly experimental and somewhat unreliable 121GW.
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I will do that for sure, I watched Joes video where he had a Gossen Metrahit, not too sure which model it was off the top of my head, but I have to say that considering the price and the stories I had heard about prior to the video, I was not in the slightest little bit impressed by them. I got the impression that they were trading on maybe past history.
The meter just arrived! Unfortunately, I don't have time to take a closer look at it right now.
Max
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So it looks like it was a case of the tracking info not being updated after all then. Enjoy the new meter and I'm sure that I'm not the only person eagerly awaiting your verdict on it.
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It looks like it. I'm excited myself ;-)
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And so you should be, you just got yourself a whole new toy to play with
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Not sure if you were serious or not... But 300 AUD (excluding GST i.e. taxes) is about equal to 191.80EUR (excluding VAT i.e. taxes).. welectron sells at 200.84€ (excluding taxes).. I'd think about 9 euros can be considered decent enough markup.The 121GW isn't out of stock: https://www.welectron.com/EEVBlog-121GW-Data-Logging-Multimeter-with-Bluetooth
Well I guess it depends on where you go, I checked here, the most logical place first I would have thought https://www.eevblog.com/product/121gw/
Some mark up! 40 quid! That's near quarter of the price of the meter again, Greedy cunts!!
Or were you referring to the government (which gets the VAT of about 40 euros) with that "Greedy cunts"? Or the population and companies of the country who gets (share of) the benefits from that tax, eventually?
Nope, I was deadly serious!
300 aud = 171 quid! 238 euros = 210 quid! 40 quids difference = greedy cunts! I used online calculators so I take it they are close enough? -
At some point I am hoping to have these in stock too but have not discussed pricing with Dave. I generally try to match Dave's prices (I am not VAT registered so it does give me a potential 20% advantage).
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Nope, I was deadly serious!
300 aud = 171 quid! 238 euros = 210 quid! 40 quids difference = greedy cunts! I used online calculators so I take it they are close enough?
300 AUD excludes VAT, 239 € is including VAT so it is not 40 £ difference.
For me in Sweden it is actually cheaper from Weletron (not by much, but still).
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Your online conversion calculations are correct, but you calculated them from values that are not comparable to each other.
Not sure if you were serious or not... But 300 AUD (excluding GST i.e. taxes) is about equal to 191.80EUR (excluding VAT i.e. taxes).. welectron sells at 200.84€ (excluding taxes).. I'd think about 9 euros can be considered decent enough markup.The 121GW isn't out of stock: https://www.welectron.com/EEVBlog-121GW-Data-Logging-Multimeter-with-Bluetooth
Well I guess it depends on where you go, I checked here, the most logical place first I would have thought https://www.eevblog.com/product/121gw/
Some mark up! 40 quid! That's near quarter of the price of the meter again, Greedy cunts!!
Or were you referring to the government (which gets the VAT of about 40 euros) with that "Greedy cunts"? Or the population and companies of the country who gets (share of) the benefits from that tax, eventually?
Nope, I was deadly serious!
300 aud = 171 quid! 238 euros = 210 quid! 40 quids difference = greedy cunts! I used online calculators so I take it they are close enough?
I thought I already hinted that in my previous message, but, lets put it more clearly. It seems you are comparing australian WITHOUT-tax price to european WITH-tax price. You can't do that unless you intend to break law (and/or expect the european merchant to break law). If you order that 300aud australian thing (from australia), you end up (or at least should, if obeying laws) paying that missing tax (VAT in EU) some time during or after the import process, so that 300 AUD (without tax) price is not valid comparison point to 238 EUR (includes 19% VAT for the merchant's country). You must compare either the 300AUD to 200.84EUR (both values without tax), or, 300AUD + your local VAT (seems to be 20%, so total 360AUD) to the 239 EUR (includes 19%). The latter comparison would give 360AUD=205.74GBP vs. 239EUR=213.72GBP.
That was only about comparing prices; in EU as a consumer you should end up paying some VAT to some government at some point of purchase/import, no matter what, so you might as well compare the with-tax prices to give you a better idea of the total price you'd need to pay in the end.
If importing by yourself, remember shipping costs and that you pay VAT for those shipping costs, too. (If shipping is marked as "free", customs typically roll a dice for some credible shipping cost to calculate the VAT for.) And possible customs, typically somewhere between 0% and 4%. And if it gets shipped with one of those (really greedy) shipping companies that want like 20-40€ fees for the near-zero customs paperwork they do for you (or even if they do not do it for you), add that to the total. Welectron seems to provide free shipping to great britain and since it is already in EU, no customs for you (welectron has paid the customs already, and baked them into that selling price shown), and the (really greedy) shipping companies can't extort any extra fees from you. So, assuming 0% customs, luckily no extra fees to shipping company, and "rolling" a 10AUD shipping cost (cheap, I'd say) it would actually be closer to, 370AUD vs. 239EUR, i.e. 211.45GBP vs. 213.72GBP. All those considered (cheap shipping, no extra fees, no customs included), Welectron starts to look possibly the cheaper source...
(Oh, if the brexit hits hard enough, you'd be "importing" even from welectron. Customs, extra fees, etc even for orders from there...)
Note, about 37€ of that welectron price (the VAT share of the full price) goes to government, not to welectron. So, at least welectron is not greedy. If you want to enjoy the benefits from your government (like education, healthcare, security/safety, etc. however crappy or good they might be), but not pay taxes, then you're the greedy ... something.