So I ask: while it has mostly similar performance, is the PP215 constructed any more durably than the PP510? The '215 is certainly more costly (I'm surprised at just how cheap the PP510 is versus even the Owon T5100's I had on my previous scope... those seemed pretty solid to me), but is basically the same (particularly the hook end)?
Here comes an in-depth review of the optional SAG1021 AWG.
It’s a bit ridiculous, but I had to split the review for this humble little AWG into four parts (three would have worked too, but I didn’t want to tear the sine wave chapter apart). So here are the first two parts:
SAG1021 Review 1-8
- Operation
- Zero Adjust
- Frequency Accuracy
SAG1021 Review 8-25
- Waveforms
-- Sine
--- Amplitude Accuracy
--- Harmonic Distortion
--- Phase Noise
Does this scope have have channel digital filers hidden somewhere?
From my current research i couldn't find any .
Eres acts like Low Pass Filter.
Does this scope have have channel digital filers hidden somewhere?
From my current research i couldn't find any .
No.
Digital side filters are good in some situations with some notes related to aliasing and this depends also if filter input data is true full samplerate or if it use decimated samples. Filter itself do not know if filter input signal is ADC produced alias or true signal. So user need some times be careful and not always blind believe results.
Only really trusted filters are in analog side before ADC. Now and for (nearly) ever.
Of course SDS1000X-E still have some in digital side but they do not name it as filter.
It works like low pass filter but is in digital side.
And user can not adjust it using corner frequency. Not very handy but more than nothing.
Eres acts like Low Pass Filter.
It is explained here (note that all details are not same in Siglent but still useful to read, same principles. http://cdn.teledynelecroy.com/files/appnotes/an_006a.pdf
Example (LeCroy AN-006A, table 1) with full 1GSa/s 3bit Eres is around 8MHz LPF.
With 10MSa/s it is like 80kHz LPF.
I have not measured with Siglent but roughly in same ballpark.
Does this scope have have channel digital filers hidden somewhere?
Eres acts like Low Pass Filter.
but you can't set the corner frequency, and you don't have highpass/bandpass/notch.
I would find digital filters to be useful to look at for example pwm signal. One can use the integrator math operator in conjunction with the offset to produce something that resembles a LPF but the result is rather poor. Same with HPF/Differentiator.
Another is to filter out specific content, BEFORE doing further analysis
Is there a plan to add them? I remember reading something about it a long time ago..
<channel_filter_menu>
<name>FILTER</name>
<button1>
<title>Filter</title>
<option1>Off</option1>
<option2>On</option2>
</button1>
<button2>
<title>Type</title>
</button2>
<button3>
<title>Low Limit</title>
<option1></option1>
</button3>
<button4>
<title>High Limit</title>
<option1></option1>
</button4>
<button5>
<title></title>
</button5>
<button6>
</button6>
</channel_filter_menu>
<channel_filter_menu>
<main_help></main_help>
<button1></button1>
<button2></button2>
<button3></button3>
<button4></button4>
<button5></button5>
<button6></button6>
</channel_filter_menu>
Record Type:
_0 single_sweep
_1 interleaved
_2 histogram
_3 graph
_4 filter_coefficient
_5 complex
_6 extrema
_7 sequence_obsolete
_8 centered_RIS
_9 peak_detect
PROCESSING_DONE:
_0 no_processing
_1 fir_filter
_2 interpolated
_3 sparsed
_4 autoscaled
_5 no_result
_6 rolling
_7 cumulative
Hello everyone,
As far as I understood from In-Depth-Review, SDS1104X-E is younger model than SDS1202X-E.
Am I correct?
Picked up an SDS1204X-E from siglent.eu the other day (very fast service by the way). Couple of annoyances with the probes:
1) the tips are pretty dull. The probes I have from my previous inherited TDS220 scope (some Velleman things) had really nice sharp tips which would dig in a little and avoid slippage
2) the 1x 10x switches are very sensitive to being knocked.
I very rarely if ever come out of 10x - any suggestions for a nice quality economic 10x fixed probe with a nice sharp tip, that play well with the SDS1204X-E? Thanks!
Picked up an SDS1204X-E from siglent.eu the other day (very fast service by the way). Couple of annoyances with the probes:
1) the tips are pretty dull. The probes I have from my previous inherited TDS220 scope (some Velleman things) had really nice sharp tips which would dig in a little and avoid slippage
2) the 1x 10x switches are very sensitive to being knocked.
I very rarely if ever come out of 10x - any suggestions for a nice quality economic 10x fixed probe with a nice sharp tip, that play well with the SDS1204X-E? Thanks!
Welcome.
The Siglent SP2030A (300MHz) that comes with the SDS2304X is a 10x fixed auto-sense probe and somewhat smaller and nicer the the SDS1*04X-E probes so you might want to price them up from your supplier.
The list price I have is $59ea.
Performa01 swept their performance in the link below and while they're not a perfect match for the SDS1204X-E they just meet the -3dB 200MHz spec.
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1104x-e-in-depth-review/msg1434665/#msg1434665
I use Testec. Not cheapest, but decent price for good quality..
I use Testec. Not cheapest, but decent price for good quality..I guess see above re: matching, @performa01 thought the testec they were looking at was the worst match of the lot they looked at. Was there a particular model you're using?
If I get a bit of time I can sweep TT HF212 on Keysight. I don't have a proper leveled gen, but SDG6052X should be good enough for probe comparison..
If I get a bit of time I can sweep TT HF212 on Keysight. I don't have a proper leveled gen, but SDG6052X should be good enough for probe comparison..That would be interesting - even though it is not a definitive indication how this probe would perform on a Siglent SDS1204X-E.
Amplitude flatness of the SDG6000X is excellent - better than most levelled RF generators. Look here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/sds2074x-actual-scope-bandwidth/msg1906445/#msg1906445