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Has the hackabiliy of the E4 made you buy one :  

Yes, I was already looking at the competition at a similar price, but the hack swung it to E4
275 (28%)
Yes, I'd not considered buying a TIC before, but 320x240 resolution at this price justifies it (as either tool or toy!)
444 (45.2%)
Yes, I was going to buy an E5/6/8 class of unit but will now get the E4
49 (5%)
No, but am looking out for a cheap i3 to hack
51 (5.2%)
Not yet, but probably will if now that a closed-box hack becomes is possible
164 (16.7%)

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Offline OrBy

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5325 on: August 07, 2014, 01:04:12 pm »
More of a FYI - I have been making some videos with the FLIR and tossing some of them up on youtube. Please go easy on me - video editing is not what I would call one of my top skills...  ;D

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5326 on: August 07, 2014, 06:22:20 pm »
Can you identify firmware by serial number?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5327 on: August 07, 2014, 06:38:35 pm »
Can you identify firmware by serial number?

There was a list of camera serials and what firmware they had but it's not being updated anymore due to FLIR attacking I believe.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/msg332428/#msg332428
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5328 on: August 07, 2014, 07:32:17 pm »
Can you identify firmware by serial number?

There was a list of camera serials and what firmware they had but it's not being updated anymore due to FLIR attacking I believe.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/msg332428/#msg332428
Nothing to stop others adding some data points to that thread though.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5329 on: August 07, 2014, 08:15:15 pm »
Can you identify firmware by serial number?
You can go up to 6392 61xx, maybe more.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5330 on: August 07, 2014, 08:36:57 pm »
The last confirmed 'upgradeable' unit on which I received information is detailed below:

6392 54xx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L

If FLIR recalled any retailer stock (as they have in the past) for retro fitting with the later 2.x firmware, the serial number may not guarantee anything. I have not seen a confirmed case of such however. It was discovered that an 'old stock' camera that had FW 2.x retro fitted by FLIR (after a repair) could still be upgraded as the encryption was not active on such a unit.

My serial number Vs fw revision list in the 'useful information thread' is still useable in identifying serial numbers that should be pre fw2.x when originally built. If others know of later serial numbers that contained pre fw2.x they may wish to post but I will not be updating the list in my thread.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5331 on: August 09, 2014, 04:24:08 pm »
Flir recommends to send the thermocamera to calibrate once a year.
But probably they will update my firmware version 1.2.2 to 2.x.x, and then, the hack will not work.
Is there anywhere else to calibrate?
thks
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5332 on: August 09, 2014, 04:49:02 pm »
There are many calibration houses for thermal cameras. Which country are you in ?
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5333 on: August 10, 2014, 01:29:15 am »
I have two remaining E4 v1.22.0  1.1L, unregistered, registerable, never used units for sale. 



 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5334 on: August 11, 2014, 02:52:34 pm »
So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5335 on: August 11, 2014, 03:23:26 pm »
So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

43.65227%
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5336 on: August 11, 2014, 03:27:10 pm »
So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

43.65227%

Nice!  I assume all strict scientific estimation rules were followed in deriving this number?   :-DD
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5337 on: August 11, 2014, 03:33:13 pm »
So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

43.65227%

Nice!  I assume all strict scientific estimation rules were followed in deriving this number?   :-DD

Of course! But looking at the post from Aurora -


6392 54xx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L

I would assume it would be 1.22 or less since the serial appears to be lower than the one posted.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5338 on: August 11, 2014, 04:15:43 pm »
There are many calibration houses for thermal cameras. Which country are you in ?

I am in Brazil...
Thanks
I will take a look
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5339 on: August 11, 2014, 04:18:47 pm »
So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

43.65227%

Nice!  I assume all strict scientific estimation rules were followed in deriving this number?   :-DD

Of course! But looking at the post from Aurora -


6392 54xx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L

I would assume it would be 1.22 or less since the serial appears to be lower than the one posted.

I would tend to agree but the company I found that has it also has a 20% restocking fee - ouch if it not a 1.22 or less....
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5340 on: August 11, 2014, 05:30:44 pm »
So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?

43.65227%

Nice!  I assume all strict scientific estimation rules were followed in deriving this number?   :-DD

Of course! But looking at the post from Aurora -


6392 54xx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L

I would assume it would be 1.22 or less since the serial appears to be lower than the one posted.

I would tend to agree but the company I found that has it also has a 20% restocking fee - ouch if it not a 1.22 or less....
Which is why you should place the order conditional on version, so if it's wrong they are in breach of contarct
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5341 on: August 11, 2014, 05:56:11 pm »
So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?
It is a 1.22 with a 4/3 calibration date.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5342 on: August 11, 2014, 06:12:48 pm »
So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?
It is a 1.22 with a 4/3 calibration date.
Whoa -  boom - hard data - how do you know that?   :)
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5343 on: August 11, 2014, 06:26:50 pm »
So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?
It is a 1.22 with a 4/3 calibration date.
Whoa -  boom - hard data - how do you know that?   :)
I have a list and cameras with serials before and after that have calibration of 4/3 and are 1.22
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5344 on: August 11, 2014, 06:29:58 pm »
So what do you think the odds of a unit with the following serial number: 63921757   has the 1.21 or 1.22 firmware?
It is a 1.22 with a 4/3 calibration date.
Whoa -  boom - hard data - how do you know that?   :)
I have a list and cameras with serials before and after that have calibration of 4/3 and are 1.22
Sweet!  You da man!! Thanks!  :)
 

Offline jpcjguy

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5345 on: August 11, 2014, 07:02:39 pm »
and I bought it - 959 shipped!   Thanks everyone for the assistance - hopefully the upgrade will go smooth!

Thanks!
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5346 on: August 11, 2014, 07:39:29 pm »
In this particular case my list would have helped you as the camera is quite old stock

Take a look at the list here:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/msg332428/#msg332428

A camera with S/N 6392 17xx is identified as FW1.22 and calibrated on 3 April 14. You will see that there were many cameras produced after that serial number that had fw1.22.

See extract below:

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6392 023x            21 Mar             1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 17xx            03 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 21xx            08 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 29xx            11 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 4xxx               ?                   1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 5xxx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L
6392 54xx            28 Apr              1.22.0 E4 V1.1L

Not in Camera @    18 May           2.1.0 RELEASED on FLIR web site - Built 16 May

6392 85xx            23 May             2.1.0 E4 V1.2L

====================

Note my warning about recalled stock however....nothing is a certainty, but the odds are definitely in your favour for an upgradable camera  :)

If you have not already done so, I recommend that you read my E4 Useful information thread as it answers many questions for those new to the E4.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/flir-e4-the-useful-information-thread/msg332104/#msg332104

I hope all goes well and you enjoy your camera.

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5347 on: August 12, 2014, 06:06:17 am »
I have a V1.22.0 unit available, can ship within the EU. It's brand new, I picked it up at a local electrical wholesaler who told me he couldn't shift it  :-DD
Available at Flir list price plus shipping at cost.
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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5348 on: August 13, 2014, 12:05:48 am »
I am just taking possession of a new E4 I am assuming that it will have the new firmware.  Is anyone interested in having a look at the firmware?  I was thinking about having a look through it myself, but I am kinda new to it all.  I would appreciate some guidance.  Feel free to email if you would prefer.
 

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Re: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown
« Reply #5349 on: August 13, 2014, 10:28:52 pm »
Has anyone found a way to change the configuration files to allow for tracking of more than 1 hot or 1 cold spot?  Ideally tracking all hot spots in the entire frame...

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