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Offline mrflibble

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2013, 08:36:09 pm »
"he rest of the world judges a vid real quick, closes it when annoying"-- that behaviour is more likely for someone, who dont search for anything in particular..more like cats video or fail compilation...

Or you know, the other possibility, which is it being the behavior of someone looking for a few good ones in the huge heap of mediocrity that is the internet.

Don't worry, I do the exact same thing while shopping. What, no easy to find pricing info? E-mail for a quote? *boot* neeeext shop that has learned this lesson last century. So same with shopping for information. First minute of the presentation sucks? It's likely to continue doing so. *boot* neeeext. Sometimes I do a few quick skips to some random points to see if accidentally it does get better. But most of the time the first impression actually was correct, imagine that. ;)

 

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« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2013, 08:43:01 pm »
Case in point: I just checked it around 10:00+, with the PLL bit.

At 720p (highest resolution I could find) I cannot even easily read the text in the GUI. I think I mentioned that before ... if you this style of tutorial vid, please make sure that stuff is actually readable. Not being able to read it makes it .... well ... what do you think yourself?

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"Here you can see what the PLL declaration should look like" ... uhm, no I can't see shit. ;)

Please consider using a codec that is not so lossy...
 

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« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2013, 08:44:35 pm »
Oh, cmon, as I did my first steps in FPGA/VHDL  i searched LOTS of websites and videos  for clear, undestandable, practical tutorial from scratch (like my videos for example).
Most of youtube "tutorials" should be called " demos" , because  they  don't teach you anything.Also Doulos hasn't  got any real tutorials for VHDL/FPGA. Just  naked theory.

My videos are more educative then entertaining (unlike Dave's blog, which became more entertaining then educative  with time, but this is another story).
That is why i am concerned, if anyone  has found my video , then he surely want to learn something, and not just spend 10-15 Min  watching  random interesting video while eating.
In this case he will see that my video is long, the thumnail is showing the real result,  there is source code=> everything is pointing that he will find what he looked for.So he would stay or at least rewind the intro.

"he rest of the world judges a vid real quick, closes it when annoying"-- that behaviour is more likely for someone, who dont search for anything in particular..more like cats video or fail compilation...

My underlining. The thumb voting is disabled. So somebody didn't enjoy the 'outer space virtual sound polluter YT audio overlay'  ;D. Continue to beat the dead horse or change ... Except from that - nice video.
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2013, 08:52:47 pm »
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Or you know, the other possibility
That is also right. But only if you have  good  selection, like hundreds of internetshops offering the same product.but search for  "FPGA UAR"T tutorial in youtube? Would you find  many  tutorials there? Just a few (my video is 2nd!! yey), the rest is low quality demos...who the hell need demos... :palm: ;)
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I cannot even easily read
Yes, the video quality is a problem,  the blurry image comes if i use ZOOM option in my corel video editor, without zoom everything is sharp, but then again it is small, and you  will not be able to see anything there. Maybe i should switch to other software...or zoom in while filming, and not while editing...hm..that could be a nice idea:)

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The thumb voting is disabled
The voting is disabled, because i had  conflict discussion with Dave here in forum and in his video comments, and his brainless fanboys stormed my channel  and gave all my videos many thumbs downs, even to my only cat video:(
That is why i dont  want other ppl to think my videos sucks because of low rating, the rating dont tell anything about my tutorials in this case.
« Last Edit: August 27, 2013, 08:54:27 pm by Citizen »
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2013, 09:18:32 pm »
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Or you know, the other possibility
That is also right. But only if you have  good  selection, like hundreds of internetshops offering the same product.but search for  "FPGA UAR"T tutorial in youtube? Would you find  many  tutorials there? Just a few (my video is 2nd!! yey), the rest is low quality demos...who the hell need demos... :palm: ;)
Now why would I want to wade through a pile of useless poorly readable youtube vids with annoying music ;) for "FPGA UART" stuff, when there is a perfectly fine tutorial on fpga4fun for that? Complete with working code and all that...

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The voting is disabled, because i had  conflict discussion with Dave here in forum and in his video comments, and his brainless fanboys stormed my channel  and gave all my videos many thumbs downs, even to my only cat video:(
Poor cat. :(
 

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« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2013, 09:32:45 pm »
Those tutorials are in verilog + it is much easier to understand if someone explains things step by step, and showing how to programm things  wisely: like using own components, procedures, packages  and so on.
Why visit  lectures in university, if  you can read everything in books?;)
People often get stuck ( not only in programming, but in almost any subject) just because they dont understand the "evident " fundamental things.

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Marcel (the cat) will regain his  appreciation one day....
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2013, 10:05:27 pm »
Wow fellas, keepin it classy I see.  :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm:


People often get stuck ( not only in programming, but in almost any subject) just because they dont understand the "evident " fundamental things.

Keep doing what you're doing.  :-+
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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #57 on: August 27, 2013, 10:35:41 pm »
PS
Marcel (the cat) will regain his  appreciation one day....

I just saw your cat video - I'll give you a thumbs up on it.  I'm still laughing...
Thanks for the comic relief.
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #58 on: August 28, 2013, 02:42:54 pm »
Ok, that as my last contribution to the eevblog.

I dont feel comfortable in this community for many resons.Bye
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #59 on: August 28, 2013, 03:11:41 pm »
Yes, the video quality is a problem,  the blurry image comes if i use ZOOM option in my corel video editor, without zoom everything is sharp, but then again it is small, and you  will not be able to see anything there. Maybe i should switch to other software...or zoom in while filming, and not while editing...hm..that could be a nice idea:)

The best way to fix this problem would simply be to adjust the font settings in the text editor tool you are using. This is very common thing to do in my part of the industry (we have a LOT of recorded software development training material and also do a LOT of in-person code-based presentations).
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #60 on: August 28, 2013, 03:17:24 pm »
Ok, that as my last contribution to the eevblog.

I dont feel comfortable in this community for many resons.Bye

People are just trying to give you constructive feedback (which I think is what you asked for?). You took the advice and added voiceover to your videos - which IMO made a huge improvement in their usability. I also agree with those who say your videos would be easier to watch if they didn't have the distracting music in the background. I realize it isn't distracting to *you*, but it is to many other people.

And if the point is to get people to watch your video, then common sense says that any such roadblocks should be removed.

But it's still your video and you can do it however you want - heeding advice from others or not. I use Verilog and not VHDL but still find your content to be interesting, so I've been watching them.


Not sure what this other conversation is that you refer to - that caused people to hatefully thumbs-down your videos? That doesn't sound like something typical members here would do?
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #61 on: August 28, 2013, 05:25:49 pm »
I also didn't quite follow the logical progression, but maybe this thread from today has something to do with his decision.  :-//

At any rate, should he get over the drama in a few days and recheck this thread in an effort to improve his videos ... here's the todo list ;)

[x] add voiceover
[  ] make sure text is readable, at least at 720p/1080p
[  ] get over it, and just remove the distracting music :P
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2013, 06:44:18 pm »
Actually I don't find the music all that distracting (in the last video).

If you're looking for royalty free music, try http://incompetech.com/
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2013, 11:16:27 pm »
I think if Citizen has truly left the forum, then a lot of comments will be ignored, but if by any chance he is still reading them then fix the attitude and listen to the public that would like to listen.

The majority of people that want to view the tutorials do not want the music and if you are trying to get some attention in listen to the voting public. In any business listening to the viewing public is going to get you the hits that some people will give if the video is good. Don't ignore the masses. I am sure the other people will not look away if there is no music.

It is the sole reason I cannot look at the tutorial video any more. I like video but I am aging and have a very slight CAPD (not ADHD) which make it moderately difficult for me to concentrate on more than one sound at a time. Music has a complex signal and continue signals which flows into the voice and make it difficult to concentrate. Learning is the key and not all of us are young any more.

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2013, 03:13:13 am »
Not sure what this other conversation is that you refer to - that caused people to hatefully thumbs-down your videos? That doesn't sound like something typical members here would do?

They wouldn't. It's genuine feedback that they didn't like the video (for whatever reason).
He just doesn't think that's possible, so assumes they are going on some sort of hate attack against him.  ::)
 

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« Reply #65 on: August 30, 2013, 04:11:38 am »
Didn't find this thread until now, though I missed something but my thread scan says I didn't. 
I have been viewing a lot of Verilog / VHDL videos for pointers, make the leap from GALs many moons ago to the new age. 

I may have viewed the first 10 seconds of these videos. 
If there is background music I turn it off, this goes for all videos, except music videos. 
I like the music I like, I don't like to have someone to dictate what I listen too. 
I even turn off all background music in video games. 
Background music in a technical video is applying a condition of viewing, and I say no. 
I also support anyone's right to refuse to watch such videos for this reason. 

Yes I do realize the elevator music syndrome is rampant on youtube, and I still do not like it.
 

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« Reply #66 on: August 30, 2013, 05:10:26 am »
Background music in a technical video is applying a condition of viewing, and I say no. 

I also have the same feeling for intros, which is one of the reasons why I simply dropped the intro, and the music from the outro went too.
 

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« Reply #67 on: August 30, 2013, 01:40:29 pm »

Background music in a technical video is applying a condition of viewing, and I say no. 

I also have the same feeling for intros, which is one of the reasons why I simply dropped the intro, and the music from the outro went too.
I thought "Hi welcome to EEVBLOG" was your intro. :)
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #68 on: August 30, 2013, 03:36:03 pm »
I thought "Hi welcome to EEVBLOG" was your intro. :)

It's more like

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HIII! Welcome to EEV Blawg!
Right.
I'm your host, David Jones!
Ta-day we are talking about....

Sorry, I can't even read that without hearing it in my mind in Dave's voice :)
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2013, 09:59:51 pm »
He quite possibly could have left, or just simply logged out so his profile doesn't update 'last active time' and is still reading. Sorry for the awful conspiracy theory, must be contagious somehow. :-X

I guess without any background music the videos will quickly 'feel' empty. Because at that moment it's basically an annotated screen capture of someone typing out a bunch of code. However, I agree that I like to have my own choice of music and very often turn music off in any utility, game or whatever I play.

Additionally I wonder if video is the best way of communication for code tutorials. I've been programming since I was 12 years old and never watched coding tutorials. Personally I think coding is best learned from text unless there is a continuous flow in the video for the viewer to experience, and even at that time it's very hard to follow.
Look at mythbusters. Count the number of computer myths they have done. That's like 1: pilot episode "Exploding CD's". Everything related to electronics and computers is hard to visualize for the mainstream. I think in this case it's similar, as code is just a bunch of text without much meaning from a large scale, unless you read line by line.

Then again, very often video is not the optimal way of communication so in that sense it's just a preference.
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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #70 on: September 01, 2013, 12:14:50 am »
Many people would disagree with that. High-density presentation of development content is hugely popular. The key things are
  • High density. Maximum value for the time invested by the viewer.
  • High quality. Clear, authoritative information. No distractions (like music). Edit out the "ums" and "uhs". Make sure that all text is readable while in fullscreen on a reasonable monitor (i.e., make sure it works at 1024x768).
  • Timely. Nobody is interested in crap that has been obsolete for a decade.
  • No fluff. Edit out things which are just wasting time. Use code snippets if your environment supports it, or edit out most of the slow typing if not.

Part of our business happens to be in the area of online software development educational content. This is a booming industry - triple-digit annual growth - far stronger than we ever thought likely. We too weren't really sold on the idea of video delivery of development content... but the sales and subscription numbers don't lie.
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #71 on: September 01, 2013, 09:07:56 pm »
Maybe trends are changing and video content is becoming more popular. There are also more content distribution platforms erupting, with tons of bandwith, supporting this trend.

The 'high density presentation' sounds a bit like how the Ben Heck show is done. There is no coughing, everything is in fast synchronization and it's almost clinical and unpersonal to watch. I guess that's a 5th element: style & esthetics , but maybe for companies that's less important than for individual person channels.



 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #72 on: September 01, 2013, 11:07:48 pm »
Yes, I think that is the main distinction. It's OK to show personality and not edit out all of the mistakes in something like a teardown or review video or even a "how-to" video. But something that is purely a tutorial or instructional video should be as focused and clear as possible.

Our videos are part of a paid subscription service, so obviously there is a higher expectation there about the presentation of the content.
 

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Re: My FPGA tutorials
« Reply #73 on: September 02, 2013, 12:20:10 pm »
Just saw the latest update with no music - Great start and obviously listened, May not want to share it with this community but it is out there -
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« Reply #74 on: September 02, 2013, 12:46:57 pm »
Just saw the latest update with no music - Great start and obviously listened, May not want to share it with this community but it is out there -
I don't like it. Voice over and the captions together is distracting. Maybe he should use the Youtube captions feature, then people can turn it on or off as they like.

And for the video itself: it doesn't make much sense to watch a guy typing, correcting and indenting source code for half an hour (I felt asleep after the first 3 minutes). See this example how to present source code: http://youtu.be/BUvFGTxZBG8?t=13m53s.

But he explained some interesting things for beginners how VGA works and how you can generate it with VHDL. If the video were more dense, it would be good.
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