Thunderf00t has lost last of his marbles and remaining bits of credibility

[rx8pilot]

They all either stand or fall at the next election, based on the public's level of consent to their actions.

If there is no 'next election' - they will continue to stand in perpetuity. In the case of President Trusk, they are doing everything possible to eliminate or totally control the concept of elections in the USA. So far, they are doing a great job of that too.

I am definitely not counting on an election as we have for a couple of centuries. The USA is weak and fragile, despite what many believe. It has critical vulnerabilities that will allow a very rapid disintegration. 
Xi and Putin are super excited....on the edge of their seats watching the USA self-destruct at very low cost to them. No land war required, the USA will just be gifted to them.

[Zero999]

They all either stand or fall at the next election, based on the public's level of consent to their actions.

If there is no 'next election' - they will continue to stand in perpetuity. In the case of President Trusk, they are doing everything possible to eliminate or totally control the concept of elections in the USA. So far, they are doing a great job of that too.

I am definitely not counting on an election as we have for a couple of centuries. The USA is weak and fragile, despite what many believe. It has critical vulnerabilities that will allow a very rapid disintegration. 
Xi and Putin are super excited....on the edge of their seats watching the USA self-destruct at very low cost to them. No land war required, the USA will just be gifted to them.

US elections are hardly free and fair. For that the media has to be free from government interference. Booden did everything he could to control the mainstream and social media (refer to the Twitter filers) to ensure his election.  When that failed, his party tried and failed the same tricks to get his vacuous vice Camelah into power, but the public wouldn't buy it.


I don't understand why those who suffer from TDS fail to see the other side have also warped the constitution.

I just can't believe the both parties couldn't find better candidates. I'm not surprised the public chose Trump. It's better the devil you know.

[coppice]

They all either stand or fall at the next election, based on the public's level of consent to their actions.

If there is no 'next election' - they will continue to stand in perpetuity. In the case of President Trusk, they are doing everything possible to eliminate or totally control the concept of elections in the USA. So far, they are doing a great job of that too.

I am definitely not counting on an election as we have for a couple of centuries. The USA is weak and fragile, despite what many believe. It has critical vulnerabilities that will allow a very rapid disintegration. 
Xi and Putin are super excited....on the edge of their seats watching the USA self-destruct at very low cost to them. No land war required, the USA will just be gifted to them.

US elections are hardly free and fair. For that the media has to be free from government interference. Booden did everything he could to control the mainstream and social media (refer to the Twitter filers) to ensure his election.  When that failed, his party tried and failed the same tricks to get his vacuous vice Camelah into power, but the public wouldn't buy it.


I don't understand why those who suffer from TDS fail to see the other side have also warped the constitution.

I just can't believe the both parties couldn't find better candidates. I'm not surprised the public chose Trump. It's better the devil you know.

If you are using the courts to attack your opposition, and the other side is not using intimidation and violence to sway the electorate, you are the bad guys. Elections are a very crude tool, as nobody with a functioning brain will be in broad agreement with any of the candidates. However, all the alternatives seem much worse. The public seems to broadly have a sense of fair play, apart from the cultists. Eventually manipulative behaviour backfires. Its the manipulative who get most of the extremists elected. Sufficient manipulation will make people vote for any alternative..... but then maybe being manipulative is the most extreme position of all.

[Psi]

Ok, that's enough off-topic stuff.

[Refrigerator]

Seems like the kind of videos that tfoot makes right now spark up topics that tend to flare up and expand into politics more than anything.
I wonder if this is the driving force for his current audience? Just endless TDS and MDS related back and forth that boosts engagement and keeps his channel relevant?

[EEVblog]

Seems like the kind of videos that tfoot makes right now spark up topics that tend to flare up and expand into politics more than anything.
I wonder if this is the driving force for his current audience? Just endless TDS and MDS related back and forth that boosts engagement and keeps his channel relevant?

Looking back through his videos from two years ago when there was a mix, it's not really clear that the Musk related ones did any better than other topics, maybe even a bit worse?
In more recent times, some of the other non-musk topics have done better.
So I don't think he went all-in on Musk related videos for the views.

[Refrigerator]

Seems like the kind of videos that tfoot makes right now spark up topics that tend to flare up and expand into politics more than anything.
I wonder if this is the driving force for his current audience? Just endless TDS and MDS related back and forth that boosts engagement and keeps his channel relevant?

Looking back through his videos from two years ago when there was a mix, it's not really clear that the Musk related ones did any better than other topics, maybe even a bit worse?
In more recent times, some of the other non-musk topics have done better.
So I don't think he went all-in on Musk related videos for the views.

I find it funny how tfoot physically cannot portray Donald or Elon in any other way than a clown in the thumbnail.
Makes it hard to take him seriously. The thumbnails feel so terribly repetitive, i don't even want to watch the videos just because i assume they will all be the same from the thumbnail.

[tszaboo]

I find it funny how tfoot physically cannot portray Donald or Elon in any other way than a clown in the thumbnail.
Makes it hard to take him seriously. The thumbnails feel so terribly repetitive, i don't even want to watch the videos just because i assume they will all be the same from the thumbnail.

They are all the same. It's the same thing regurgitated over and over again.
If Musk loses a Falcon, he will bring it up years from now.

[MK14]

A video (Thunderf00t), about Tesla, around 1 hour old.

[Refrigerator]

Oh my goodness, is that an actual unedited picture of Elon on Tfoots thumbnail?
I was starting to get worried that Tfoot was under some sort of contract to edit clown makeup on every political figure he disagrees with in his thumbnails.

[Simmed]

A video (Thunderf00t), about Tesla, around 1 hour old.

TFoot "... he only sells a few billion worth of cars ... "
ONLY ?
WTF ? 

[tszaboo]

Oh my goodness, is that an actual unedited picture of Elon on Tfoots thumbnail?
I was starting to get worried that Tfoot was under some sort of contract to edit clown makeup on every political figure he disagrees with in his thumbnails.

Key points:
Stock value is where it was 6 months ago. Tesla is finished.
25 Billion operating margin, 2 Billion profit. So it's 8% profit, almost the same as Toyota or VW.
I think TF foams in the mouth when another domestic terrorist sets a Tesla on fire. Definitely makes it into his video. Inciting violence. Nice.

[wraper]

TFoot "... he only sells a few billion worth of cars ... "
ONLY ?
WTF ? 

Didn't watch the video, but I don't think it's appropriate to name $97 billion in annual revenue as "sells a few billion worth of cars".

[EEVblog]

Stock value is where it was 6 months ago. Tesla is finished.

I haven't watched the latest video, but I don't get it, Tesla is up 44% in the last year, and even over the last 6 months. As a comparison Nvidia is up only 24% last year.
Sure Tesla is down 48% form the absolute peak high, but Nvidia is down 22% from peak high also. Apple down 15% from peak high. Amazon down 19%
Absolutely nothing to see here, especially given the sky high P/E of Tesla.
From a financial perspctive this is a nothing burger and absolutely in line with the general market sentiment and entirely expected.

[PlainName]

I think this is different to the usual ups and downs, though. The fall in price this year looks to be solely due to Musk being Trump's attack dog, and potential buyers of the car have been put off. Some existing owners are dumping their cars because of this. Stands to reason: EV buyers tend to be those thinking about the environment and feeling good about making a difference, and they wouldn't be seen dead in the same political circles as Musk is currently embedded.

Not saying that Tesla is dead - can't imagine that would occur. But no doubt the stock will take some time to recover, probably after Musk runs out of things to chainsaw. Twitter saw a similar effect and I hear it's now back at $40b valuation. But different clientele and advertisers are still wary (perhaps even more so since January).

[tszaboo]

Stock value is where it was 6 months ago. Tesla is finished.

I haven't watched the latest video, but I don't get it, Tesla is up 44% in the last year, and even over the last 6 months. As a comparison Nvidia is up only 24% last year.
Sure Tesla is down 48% form the absolute peak high, but Nvidia is down 22% from peak high also. Apple down 15% from peak high. Amazon down 19%
Absolutely nothing to see here, especially given the sky high P/E of Tesla.
From a financial perspctive this is a nothing burger and absolutely in line with the general market sentiment and entirely expected.

Yes, that is my point. Stock is where it was 6 months ago, and TF pronounces it a dead company.
And he clips the stock portfolio change, to only show the down slope.
Musk derangement syndrome.

Stands to reason: EV buyers tend to be those thinking about the environment and feeling good about making a difference, and they wouldn't be seen dead in the same political circles as Musk is currently embedded.

EV sales are down in Europe because incentives are ending. There was a last minute push last year. Of course it's down.

[coppercone2]

I think its like suffering from a 48 foot fall rather then a 22 foot fall. getting cleaned out might be another word for it, or thrown off the 4th floor

companies have internal 'purification squads' go out some where if is less then +3% (positive). In their case it started a coup attempt,

https://www.newsweek.com/tesla-investor-calls-board-oust-elon-musk-2048755

And all this is despite the US president trying to do damage control with a never before seen advertising stunt. You would expect that this mass exposure advertising would bolster the company.. I wonder how low it would be without that stunt, I assume it only helped them because it was a gigantic advertisement in the end, I believe these types of things generally more positive then negative for the companies involved.


I suspect all of their 'strategic plans' got foiled by this. Like anyone made provisions for this scenario. They were probably arguing if they should go as low as +15% growth expectation (treated as a extremely pessimistic contingency, akin to dooms day prepping) .

And now it looks like driving a tesla truck in some places ends like something out of the movie The Gauntlet (1977). Interesting that if the advertising is true, the owners do get their money's worth from the 'armor features' of the car, in some kinda weirdo self fulfilling prophecy.    I am not interested in petty vandalism, but the fact of the matter is that it IS becoming popular to attack this car in the USA, and that most people don't want to fight raging mobs or deal with vandalism regardless of their political stance.

https://www.newsweek.com/cybertrucks-attacked-during-mardi-gras-parade-2039814

This kind of thing can have a lasting effect on sales. I don't see people losing their resolve any time soon, they actually seem to be organizing and getting even more angry. I am waiting to see what happens when more savings accounts run out and former government employees start going bonkers after working in MacDonald's for 2 months. yikes.. and those people know alot more about the legal system and the functions of capabilities of police, compared to engineers (and they likely can organize better and control stupid better)

Alot of potential buyers are lost. For instance rich people buying their kids cars, who is gonna want to risk their family driving around in one of those? Or getting your wife one? It kind of starts to go against the conventional instinct of 'protection' that breadwinners want to offer, typically this does NOT change based on political stance.

[Refrigerator]

... but the fact of the matter is that it IS becoming popular to attack this car in the USA ...

And so is getting arrested for it and catching a felony case. These people will be filtered out in due time.
And burning stuff will go away the same as fidget spinners. It's just a current fad.

[Refrigerator]

Oh my goodness, is that an actual unedited picture of Elon on Tfoots thumbnail?
I was starting to get worried that Tfoot was under some sort of contract to edit clown makeup on every political figure he disagrees with in his thumbnails.

Key points:
Stock value is where it was 6 months ago. Tesla is finished.
25 Billion operating margin, 2 Billion profit. So it's 8% profit, almost the same as Toyota or VW.
I think TF foams in the mouth when another domestic terrorist sets a Tesla on fire. Definitely makes it into his video. Inciting violence. Nice.

Thanks for the QRD. I didn't feel like watching the video, as i just presume that any politically motivated video from Tfoot is slop.
Shame, because his science videos are some of my favorite. I wish that he made more science videos, for how much he whines about "real science" and brags about himself being a "real scientist". Queue that one pic he always uses of himself in a lab coat, standing in front of some big piece of science equipment with other people in lab coats around him.

[coppercone2]

... but the fact of the matter is that it IS becoming popular to attack this car in the USA ...

And so is getting arrested for it and catching a felony case. These people will be filtered out in due time.
And burning stuff will go away the same as fidget spinners. It's just a current fad.

IDK once people start thinking nazi's it does not really go away they have been targeted since 1930's... a really big part of American culture is anti-nazi stuff. Nothing gets a movie theater going like a wermacht staff car being vandalized. its a troph, and not the kind that people seem to feel guilty about enjoying. I can think of like 40 other demographics then nazi that are wayyyyyyyyyyy higher up on peoples priority list for eventually 'accepting'

the most positive relations were maybe with hogans heroes was on tv lol, and that was mostly sympathetic for people that maybe got 'roped into it' and could be changed or perhaps are kind of 'political scammers'.

[fourfathom]

We need a "Godwin's Law" for politics.  And for Thunderfoot.

[AVGresponding]

The facts are that Tesla market share is dropping in Europe despite EV demand rising. Partly due to Musk being a lying douchebag (idk about "Nazi", I doubt he has any politics besides self-interest), and partly due to the fact that real car makers make good EV's, instead of ones that fall apart due to rubbish build quality.

Tesla should have stuck to making drivetrains. The illusion of FSD has pumped the stock to bubble levels, and now it's collapsing, and it will probably ruin the company, sadly. Musk will likely try to use his government position to avoid prison, remains to be seen whether it'll work.

[wraper]

Tesla should have stuck to making drivetrains. The illusion of FSD has pumped the stock to bubble levels, and now it's collapsing, and it will probably ruin the company, sadly. Musk will likely try to use his government position to avoid prison, remains to be seen whether it'll work.

FYI Tesla will launch a robotaxi in June starting from Texas due to how good FSD became.

[TimFox]

Tesla should have stuck to making drivetrains. The illusion of FSD has pumped the stock to bubble levels, and now it's collapsing, and it will probably ruin the company, sadly. Musk will likely try to use his government position to avoid prison, remains to be seen whether it'll work.

FYI Tesla will launch a robotaxi in June starting from Texas due to how good FSD became.

Last sentence:  should that be "to see how good FSD became"?
In SpaceX, Musk has preferred to evaluate rockets by testing, rather than simulation, causing some degree of damage downrange (although no injuries, as yet).
https://spaceinsider.tech/2025/02/28/spacex-engineers-offer-lessons-learned-as-team-gears-up-for-next-starship-mission/

[EEVblog]

Musk will likely try to use his government position to avoid prison, remains to be seen whether it'll work.[/color][/font][/b]

There is nothing illegal against promising something leading edge technically complicated and then falling short on capability or delivery schedule.
If that was the case then every tech CEO would be in prison.
A tech CEO's job is to sell the sizzle, always has been, always will be.
At worst, under consumer law (country specific) you can get your money back if promised features are not delivered for a product you purchased.