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Offline Inna89KTopic starter

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Hello everyone,

I am designing an automatically tuned series Lf-Cf resonant network. The purpose of the tuning is to compensate for the tolerance of the Lf inductors in mass production.
The capacitance is adjusted using a switched capacitor array. A simplified schematic of one switching cell is shown below.

Circuit parameters:
•   Operating frequency: 6.7 MHz
•   Voltage across V2-V1: quasi-sinusoidal, up to 50 V peak
•   Current through Lf: quasi-sinusoidal, up to 3 A peak
•   Capacitor switching occurs only occasionally (during tuning), so the switching frequency is many orders of magnitude lower than 6.7 MHz.
Someone suggested that, because the MOSFETs switch very infrequently, I could avoid using an isolated floating gate driver and instead drive the gates through a PI network (capacitor – large resistor – capacitor) referenced to the floating source potential.

I have several questions:

1.   Does this approach make sense for this application?
2.   Is the proposed gate-drive circuit (shown below) correct?

3.   How should the values of the RC components in the PI network be selected? Are there any application notes or design references describing this technique?
4.   Does the Switch_ON control signal also have to be referenced to the floating source potential? My capacitor array will be controlled according to the measured average input current, and my current sensing circuitry is currently referenced to the logic ground. What is the recommended way to interface this logic-domain control signal to the floating gate circuit?
5.   Has anyone successfully used this technique to drive floating MOSFETs, or am I misunderstanding the original suggestion?

Any advice or references would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2026, 12:40:43 pm »
I've worked on switched tuners quite a bit, using both relays and transistors as switching elements. A few comments:
1. If using FETs, you will need to use a back-to-back pair (sources and gates connected together) for each switch. Unless you somehow put a large DC bias on V2-V1 (higher than the max amplitude of the AC component).
2. A simple gate drive scheme like what's shown in your schematic might look fine in theory, but falls apart in practice. Hard to describe in detail, but if you make a simulation model of the circuit and play around with it, the issues become clear.
3. Also be aware that when the FETs are off, they will have some residual capacitance across the switch. And that capacitance will be highly nonlinear, which might be a problem depending on your application. Using GaN FETs will reduce this additional capacitance somewhat.

If the switching is very slow, then using photovoltaic isolators (PVIs) for driving the gates is probably your best bet. This is basically how normal solid state relays work.
 
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2026, 12:49:11 pm »
Is there not a better way to generate a stable 6.7MHz so you can avoid tuning?
What's the actual objective here?
Why 6.7MHz?
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2026, 03:31:07 pm »
Maybe using pulse transformers? You could use Ethernet trafos, two per pack and easy to source
 

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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2026, 03:42:17 pm »
Optomosfet solid state relays.

Example: https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/apsemi/GAQY211G2S/25854831

Larger ones exist, but, I don't believe you are seeing 3 amps across each series cap making a total of 5 caps = 15 amps total.
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2026, 04:02:20 pm »
The operating frequency is fixed at 6.78 MHz. I'm not tuning the oscillator frequency. I'm tuning the resonant network by adjusting the capacitance to compensate for the production tolerance of the Lf inductors.
The operating frequency is fixed at 6.78 MHz because the system is designed to operate in the ISM band.
 

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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2026, 04:02:50 pm »
how slow? relay slow?
 

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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2026, 04:05:36 pm »
The total current in the circuit is 3 A peak.
 

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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2026, 06:26:44 pm »
Suggestion following @mtwieg #1:
 
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2026, 07:29:24 pm »
Does this modulate at a lower freq, or is the 6.7MHz clean ?
The mosfet current will scale by C so you can user smalller fets for lower caps, and you will need to retune the exact caps to get change in C you desire due to fet C effects,
 
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2026, 07:45:31 pm »
IMHO it's an unmodulated CW carrier. Except inductive heating it becomes popular in wireless energy transfer. Lf seems to be the transfer coil and the switched capacitors for impedance matching reminding me at an Shortwave Autotuner.
 

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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2026, 10:07:11 pm »
Spice can show you the current thru each cap, but you might be able to use mosfet SSR to simplify the parts count.
 
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2026, 06:15:49 am »
Yes, this is the operating frequency of a wireless power transfer (WPT) system. 6.78 MHz is one of the most suitable frequencies for systems up to 250 W. It results in less heating of nearby metal objects and allows for a more compact overall design.

In the circuit shown, Lf–Cf is a series filter placed ahead of the transmitting coil. Its purpose is to provide a "clean" sinusoidal waveform to the coil, thereby reducing the radiated harmonic content.

The Lf element is an inductor wound on a T50-2 toroidal core. The system is extremely sensitive to its inductance value. A deviation of as little as ±1% can change the input power enough to either reduce the power delivered to the receiver or cause an overcurrent condition in the transmitter.
 

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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2026, 07:19:17 am »
Judging by the small adjustment caps, you don't need a lot of adjustment range.
So you could perhaps tune the inductance, with a separate dc driven winding to give some control over core permeability.
Would need some experimenting though.
 

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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2026, 08:40:54 am »
Suggestion following @mtwieg #1:

That #8 example of PV isolator driving two FETS looks good.
Spice suggests currents are 79mA ~ 390mA RMS for each cap, for a 3.5A peak path.

Maybe a telecom type SSR like the xx214 or xx274 series is good enough for the 79mA leg, but the higher currents may be better with PV isolator, and FETS as shown in #8

OptoPV drivers like GAQV1122S  GAQV1123S are ~ 30c, so they manage floating gate drive.

FET selection is a trade off between loss when ON due to Rds, and isolation and distortion when 'OFF', due to Coss Crss size and variations.


Some bench testing may be needed, as not all FETS have spice models.

lcsc have NH FETS in TO252 : NPS1N60S 3.3c  NPS2N60S 3.7c  NPS4N60S 8.3c - low Coss Crss and low cost 600V FETS.

 
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2026, 09:36:18 am »
If the nominal resonant frequency with 350nH & 2.32nf is supposed to be 6.7MHz there is a slight discrepancy as the nominal values give 5.58MHz?
 

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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2026, 12:05:39 pm »
That #8 example of PV isolator driving two FETS looks good.
Spice suggests currents are 79mA ~ 390mA RMS for each cap, for a 3.5A peak path.

Maybe a telecom type SSR like the xx214 or xx274 series is good enough for the 79mA leg, but the higher currents may be better with PV isolator, and FETS as shown in #8
Telecom relays like AQW212 might be viable. Ron=2.5ohm, max continuous load current 0.5Arms, Coff around 80pF. Not sure if that much Ron is acceptable for the application. If not, then a discrete SSR with GaN FETs is probably the way to go. For example, EPC2110 has Ron=0.16ohm, Imax=3Arms, Coff=125pF.
 
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2026, 01:32:37 pm »
Thank you for your comments.

The inductance of the package leads is also a critical parameter, so the TO-220 package is not the most suitable choice.

The NPS4N60S has an RDS(on) of about 3 Ω. With an average current of 300 mA, this results in approximately 1 W of conduction loss. For four channels, that would amount to about 4 W, reducing the overall system efficiency by at least 5%.

The STD11N60DM2 appears to be a better option; however, it is also only available in the TO-252 package.

Among dual MOSFETs, I found the EPC2221. However, at around $2 per device in small quantities, it would increase the BOM cost by at least $8, which is about 16% of the target product cost.
 

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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2026, 01:51:57 pm »
In this case, the Lf–Cf network is part of the LCC compensation used in a wireless power transfer system. Its natural resonant frequency may be lower than the operating frequency.
 

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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2026, 04:26:18 pm »
The mosfet isn't a bidirectional switch, its body diode is on for every half cycle whatever the mosfets gate voltage happens to be.

To get bipolar unidirectional switching you'd need four mosfets per switch. Expensive and messy.
Then you've got the large inter-electrode capacitances to ruin your day.

A low cost DDS ic and a small class E amplifier using a single mosfet solves all that, no?
A bit of self tuning code determines maximum power transfer.
Lovely.
 
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2026, 07:28:59 pm »
The inductance of the package leads is also a critical parameter, so the TO-220 package is not the most suitable choice.
Why? If the signal is very narrowband (sounds like it is) then any parasitic inductance would just get absorbed into the reset of the circuit. In this case it would effectively cause each of those switched capacitors to appear as a somewhat higher capacitance. But then you have the tuner to compensate for it.

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Among dual MOSFETs, I found the EPC2221. However, at around $2 per device in small quantities, it would increase the BOM cost by at least $8, which is about 16% of the target product cost.
I think you need to adjust your expectations here...

To get bipolar unidirectional switching you'd need four mosfets per switch. Expensive and messy.
Bipolar unidirectional switch...?

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A low cost DDS ic and a small class E amplifier using a single mosfet solves all that, no?
A bit of self tuning code determines maximum power transfer.
I'm betting there are multiple resonators in the system whose frequencies must match precisely for good power transfer. In such a case, if the resonators are off then there won't exist any operating frequency with good transfer efficiency.
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2026, 08:08:45 pm »
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The inductance of the package leads is also a critical parameter, so the TO-220 package is not the most suitable choice.

The NPS4N60S has an RDS(on) of about 3 Ω. With an average current of 300 mA, this results in approximately 1 W of conduction loss. For four channels, that would amount to about 4 W, reducing the overall system efficiency by at least 5%.
These are simple on/ off switches, inductance may matter more on the main power switching device.
What matters the most in the spice runs I tried, was capacitance linearity.
The loss is not the same in all legs as the current varies, and you may want to revisit your power maths too… 8)

Addit: you may need more than one fet part code, if you want to lower power loss and keep linearity.
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2026, 08:22:07 pm »
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Someone suggested that, because the MOSFETs switch very infrequently, I could avoid using an isolated floating gate driver and instead drive the gates through a PI network (capacitor – large resistor – capacitor) referenced to the floating source potential.

1.   Does this approach make sense for this application?
Going back to this question, it’s a little hairy, but you could try it.
The caps will DC restore with the fet diode when off, which will give a current impulse when turned on.
Given these are switched infrequently and are fractional caps, maybe that is tolerable?

 

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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2026, 10:49:03 pm »
Spice gives some revealing results for this interesting challenge.

This shows a PhotoPV driving dual-fets, and there is also a RC to gate single fet.
Slow gate drive can keep current peaks down, but there are peak powers during the switch over times, that need to be watched.

 
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Re: Floating MOSFET gate drive for a slow-switching capacitor array
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2026, 02:35:07 pm »
Yeah it's hard to tell if the high power dissipation during switching will be an issue.

There are ways to make the drive much faster (but requires additional phototransistors), see fig 6A here: https://patents.google.com/patent/US12130345B2/en?oq=US12130345

Even with an advanced drive method like that, I would still rather not hot-switch.
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