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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #825 on: February 21, 2026, 08:45:40 pm »
I think if NEC had a complementary bipolar process they would brag about it explicitly. In a noncomplementary process, output stage emitter follower typically is a "substrate PNP", which is technically vertical. But without some dedicated processing tricks it has thick base and weak doping, so still not as good as NPN.

You can see this kind of transistor in uPC4570 above, as well as NJM4580/RC4480, NJM2068, TL072, LM833, LM358. They can be recognized by having a collector connection made to isolations near or around the transistor's well, not inside it.

The drawing below is from Signetics 1979 Analog Applications Manual, where they call it "vertical PNP" and say that its "upper range of frequencies is 10-20MHz", whatever it means. I don't know what typical fT of those devices originally was, nor what it became in the 1980s and whether NEC really had an edge over competitors and by how much or for how long. It is conceivable that those Japanese vendors who specialized in "bang for the buck" audio chips developed tweaks to optimize the noncomplementary process. Meanwhile vendors aiming for state of the art performance (particularly speed) invested in complementary processes.
 
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« Reply #826 on: March 10, 2026, 04:03:06 am »


Texas Instruments NE5532. We already had the SA5532 (higher temperature range) but the die was a bit dirty: https://www.richis-lab.de/Opamp74.htm




The dimensions of the die are 2,2mm x 2,1mm. It is not surprising that the design is the same as in the SA5532. The NE5532 is either a worse bin which you get by sorting or it is just tested less thoroughly.

This image is also available in a higher resolution: https://www.richis-lab.de/images/Opamp/a18x02XL.jpg (29 MB)


https://www.richis-lab.de/OpampA13.htm

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #827 on: March 12, 2026, 04:53:19 am »


The NE5532 documented here does not bear any designation or logo that would allow the manufacturer to be identified. The component was produced by the Chinese company Sungine, founded in 2005. On the corresponding website, the company name is listed as Shuangjing Technology. The datasheet is very similar to the Texas Instruments datasheet. The current consumption is slightly higher, but Sungine offers a significantly higher slew rate and a slightly higher bandwidth.




The package contains a die measuring 1,4mm x 1,1mm. It is therefore significantly smaller than the die of the NE5532 from Texas Instruments. In the upper left corner, next to the logo and company name, is the designation GB7643A. This could be an internal project designation. The character string QXS1003 is also shown on the lower edge.

This image is also available in a higher resolution: https://www.richis-lab.de/images/Opamp/a19x02XL.jpg (18MB)




On closer inspection, it becomes apparent that this is the well-known NE5532 design. In this image, the individual elements have been labeled with the designations used for the Philips NE5532 (https://www.richis-lab.de/Opamp66.htm). The green components are those that are only listed in the Texas Instruments circuit diagram. These have also been adopted here. Particularly striking are the shapes of transistors T3 and T6, whose emitters each consist of three stripes. These geometries have also been adopted from the familiar designs.






The bondpads are striking. The thermal decapping damages bondpads. However, some unusual artifacts are visible here. Veritable crater walls have formed around the area where the bondwire ball was located. The upper image clearly shows that these are metal accumulations. The bondwire must have been pressed onto the bondpad with great force.

The black contamination could be combustion products of the epoxy. Nevertheless, the accumulation around the bondpad is unusual. Equally surprising are the signs of dissolution in the metal layer. Corrosive combustion products can attack the metal layer. However, this process usually works its way from the bondpad into the circuit, as the metal layer is protected at the top by the passivation layer. Here, however, significant damage is visible a considerable distance away from the bondpad.


https://www.richis-lab.de/OpampA14.htm

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #828 on: March 12, 2026, 07:55:54 am »
Nice find, I guess you got it from LCSC?
I tried AliExpress several times but all I ever got was recycled chips or 4558 inside.

I wouldn't say that the datasheet looks like TI, unless you meant that the specs are similar. But then they are similar to all other vendors too. Power consumption is a lot higher at 14mA vs 8mA typical, on ±22V rails this thing will dissipate 0.6W doing nothing. 28mA maximum :scared:

I wonder how it performs in terms of noise, THD, etc. The open loop gain spec at 10kHz (2200x) looks about normal, IIRC I measured 2400x on some Western NE5532.
 

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #829 on: March 12, 2026, 05:04:16 pm »
Someone has sent me a bunch of interesting parts. As far as I know he bought the NE5532 from LCSC, yes.

And yes, I wanted to say that the specifications are very similar to the specifications in the TI datasheet. The datasheet itself looks very different.
OK, the current consumption is a little more than slightly higher.  ;D

It a precision opamp. To achieve this they have integrated a heater.  ;D

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #830 on: March 12, 2026, 07:12:45 pm »
Noopy, do you know the SKU? The list of manufacturers making NE5532 is surprisingly big (below). I did buy some opamps from cosine, hgsemi, and sikor for evaluation, but never had time to do that. What I found is, there are not that many Asian precision or high-speed parts, except auto-zero opamps. I do hope one day they'll clone lm399 or ltz1000.

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #831 on: March 13, 2026, 04:09:05 am »
No, sorry, I don´t have the SKU.

Interesting, I didn´t know there are so many NE5532 manufacturers.  :-+

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #832 on: March 13, 2026, 12:41:26 pm »
I made a mistake. Substrate PNPs are virtical device and I forgot it  :palm:
Maybe "complementary PNP" is a better description? since there's "CB" and "CMOS"...
 

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« Reply #833 on: March 14, 2026, 12:57:30 am »
What I found is, there are not that many Asian precision or high-speed parts, except auto-zero opamps. I do hope one day they'll clone lm399 or ltz1000.

Auto-zero operational amplifiers can be built on a cheap CMOS logic process, explaining why so many are limited to 5 volt supplies.

High performance analog requires one of the variety of bipolar processes which lack economy of scale, which explains all of the consolidation into Analog Devices and Texas Instruments.  Who else is left?  I only see token parts from other manufacturers.

I think Texas Instruments has a process edge over Analog Devices now, with nobody in third place.
 

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« Reply #834 on: March 14, 2026, 06:58:52 pm »
A reminder TI PCN's they did another die design/process change on many legacy part numbers such as the NE5532, LM833, MC33078 etc.
Moving from 150mm (SFAB Sherman, TX) -> 300mm wafer (RFAB Richardson, TX). I think early-2024. Not sure about 150/200mm (DFAB Dallas, TX) part in this.

Of all the things to make at your new fab- die-shrunk jellybean op-amps that perform worse than the originals lol  :palm:

They sneak in the differences, very dodgy NE5532 TI datasheet:
"Changes from Revision J (January 2015) to Revision K (December 2025):
• Changed Unity-gain bandwidth from 10MHz to 12MHz
• Changed Slew rate from 9V/μs to 5V/μs
• Changed Supply voltage positive and negative from 22V to 18V
• Changed Input voltage positive and negative from –10V and +10V to –15V and +15V
• Removed Maximum peak-to-peak output voltage swing, Small-signal differential-voltage amplification, Maximum output-swing bandwidth, Output impedance, Crosstalk attenuation
• Changed Supply current value from 8mA to 6mA

Noise spec is the "same"... but it might be worthwhile to compare a new part.
 

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« Reply #835 on: March 14, 2026, 07:34:23 pm »
Yes, would be interesting to compare the new revision.  :-+
Unfortunately it´s hard to buy a new revision when they still produce the old one and don´t give them different names...  :-\

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #836 on: March 14, 2026, 10:28:55 pm »
Noopy, do you know the SKU?

https://www.lcsc.com/product-detail/C5274829.html

However, no longer available.
I have a few (less than 10) left.
 

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #837 on: March 15, 2026, 04:31:01 am »


The manufacturer code UMW refers to Guangdong Youtai Semiconductor, a company founded in Hong Kong in 2013. UMW also offers an LM2904.




The die of the UMW LM2904 is surprisingly small, measuring 0,7mm by 0,4mm.

This image is also available in a higher resolution: https://www.richis-lab.de/images/Opamp/a20x02XL.jpg (4MB)






The circuit is largely identical to that of the Texas Instruments LM2904. For transistors Q2 and Q4, it can be assumed that additional collector regions are connected to ground, as is typical of other LM2904 variants. However, the structures are not clearly visible. Diode D1 at the emitter of Q10 is missing.

The die contains some unusual elements and geometries. The input transistors Q1 and Q3 are located directly next to their respective bondpads. The base region is still contacted within the bondpad. The output transistor Q22 has been completely shifted beneath the bondpad. The upper output transistor Q18 has a very unusual shape. Two base contacts have been placed within the large-area emitter contact. This is reminiscent of the so-called “perforated emitter” design, as seen on a larger scale in the BUX22 (https://www.richis-lab.de/Bipolar08.htm).




Compared to other LM2904 variants, the UMW version has a drawback. UMW uses a reference path to set the bias currents of the individual stages in both opamps (left). This connection allows the two channels to influence each other. Other LM2904 devices generate two reference currents that control the current sources of the two channels via two PNP transistors (right).




In an extreme case, for example, if the Vcc+ potential is applied to an input, the corresponding current source can no longer supply current. This transistor then also ceases to conduct base current to the common base potential. This, in turn, causes the currents in the other current sources to increase slightly. The behavior of the disrupted opamp may be irrelevant in the application, but the second opamp is now also supplied with higher currents. This alters its behavior and specifications to some extent. In the worst case, instability may occur. Variable disturbances can modulate onto the signal of the second opamp.

On the right, the PNP transistors Q20 and Q25 each control their respective halves of the current sources. The reference currents are generated by the NPN transistors Q21 and Q26, which are not affected by a disturbance on one side. However, this requires the use of two additional transistors. UMW has prioritized maximum efficiency, particularly in the bias circuit. To achieve this goal, they even accepted a significant asymmetry between the two opamps.


As described below the current in the other current sources will decrease not increase. Nevertheless it´s not good.  ;D


https://www.richis-lab.de/OpampA15.htm

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #838 on: March 16, 2026, 10:01:26 am »
They sneak in the differences, very dodgy NE5532 TI datasheet:
"Changes from Revision J (January 2015) to Revision K (December 2025)
You haven't noticed all changes yet ;)

In an extreme case, for example, if the Vcc+ potential is applied to an input, the corresponding current source can no longer supply current. This transistor then also ceases to conduct base current to the common base potential. This, in turn, causes the currents in the other current sources to increase slightly.
Not really. The saturated output still has BE bias so it conducts from the emitter to the base, but this current can't jump to the collector anymore so it exists through the base. The transistor effectively appears in parallel with the input of the current mirror, so BE voltage of the mirror is reduced and other outputs are reduced. Though base spreading resistance appears in series with the BE junction, so emitter current is lower than in normal operation. Same thing as if you try to measure Vbe with a DMM with open collector, you get higher reading than with the collector shorted to the base.

If you somehow manage to pull the collector above VCC, the mirror may turn of completely.
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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #839 on: March 16, 2026, 11:15:07 am »
In an extreme case, for example, if the Vcc+ potential is applied to an input, the corresponding current source can no longer supply current. This transistor then also ceases to conduct base current to the common base potential. This, in turn, causes the currents in the other current sources to increase slightly.
Not really. The saturated output still has BE bias so it conducts from the emitter to the base, but this current can't jump to the collector anymore so it exists through the base. The transistor effectively appears in parallel with the input of the current mirror, so BE voltage of the mirror is reduced and other outputs are reduced. Though base spreading resistance appears in series with the BE junction, so emitter current is lower than in normal operation.

Are you sure?

The saturated output still has BE bias. I agree with that. There will be a diode current from the emitter to the base.
Since there is no more collector current there will be no more "steering current" which has to flow out of the base to allow for the collector current to flow.
So all in all the base current should shrink significantly.

Emitter base current should never jump to the collector or am I wrong here?

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #840 on: March 16, 2026, 12:01:50 pm »
Since there is no more collector current there will be no more "steering current" which has to flow out of the base to allow for the collector current to flow.
You seem to assume that β is fixed, but it isn't - it gradually falls down to nothing when Vce approaches zero.
You have this mirror in LTspice, you can simulate it :)

Fundamentally, BJT is not a current gain device. A more useful model is:
1. BE junction is just a diode with the usual exponential I-V characteristic and a special property that the emitter is doped stronger, so most current flows in the form of emitter carriers entering the base and not vice versa.
2. Most injected carriers pass through the base into the collector, the reminder creates base current. (Base carriers entering the emitter also contribute to unproductive base current).
3. In saturation, BC junction forward biases and returns current back to the base. External base terminal current increases and β appears to decrease.
4. If significant current flows through base resistance, internal BE junction voltage (and therefore current) decreases somewhat.
 
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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #841 on: March 16, 2026, 12:43:28 pm »
You explanation makes sense.
LTSpice says you are right.
AI says you are right (after first telling me I am right :blah:).
It seems you are right.  ;D

Thanks for the explanation. I have to update the picture...

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #842 on: March 16, 2026, 07:53:55 pm »
NEC μPC811

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µPC811 is a unique J-FET input operational amplifier that uses a high-speed PNP transistor (fT = 300 MHz) for the output stage to achieve fast response and high stability.

An opamp designed by NEC in the '80s and apparently still made by Renesas, offering "high input impedance, low offset voltage, high slew rate and stable AC operating characteristics", including ability to drive 10nF load. Offset voltage trimmed to 2.5mV max at 25°C, noise and speed similar to TL081, more input leakage. Decompensated version is available as μPC813 with same DC precision and noise, but 50% higher speed and limited capacitive load tolerance at unity gain. Corresponding duals are μPC812 and μPC814.

I got an old production NEC-branded chip from AliExpress, probably recycled, here's what it looks like (alongside μPC4570) if somebody is interested. NEC's font is quite unique, the μP prefix is omitted, bottom row seems to contain usual YYWW date codes.



Simplified schematic shows two stage topology similar to TL081.



Real circuit is slightly more complex than common JFET opamps. At the top, between pads 1 and 7 (labeled for our convenience) the trim circuitry is located. A current proportional to input stage bias passes through JFETs near pad 7 (not sure why) and reaches an array of JFETs of different sizes on the left. Their gate is biased through a diode-wired JFET, probably to prevent current backflow during zapping. Zener zaps collect current from selected JFETs to a trace which leads it back near pad 7 where it can be zapped into either pad 1 or pad 5 (offset null). Current from "unzapped" branches is absorbed by PNP emitter followers with bases grounded through some structure which may be a tiny JFET, this probably limits PNP base current during zapping. Contrary to the schematic, mirror resistors (located between IN pads on the left) are not adjustable.

The input stage is a JFET differential pair in usual four-transistor common centroid layout, loaded with an NPN current mirror to the left, also common centroid. An emitter follower analogous to Q5 drives the mirror like in TL081, but unlike TL081 both followers have active emitter loads instead of resistors. The mirror driver is bypassed at high frequencies by junction capacitor integrated between base and collector of one of the mirror NPNs.

The output stage is at the bottom, with PNP on the left, NPN on the right and resistors between them. Resistance is probably low to keep time constant with reactive loads under control, so active overcurrent protection for sourcing and sinking is used like in 741. Located nearby is the compensation capacitor and Q6 with its Baker clamp (not shown on the schematic).

The rest is bias generation, active loads, etc. Bias is derived from a zener reference and resistors, the input stage current source is a Wilson mirror for better CMRR.



Looking at a transistor near the output stage we can see usual surface distortion due to buried diffusion under the transistor (green arrows), as usual shifted slightly away from the true location of the buried diffusion (aligned with active part of the transistor). But we also see another buried diffusion (yellow arrows) surrounding the transistor, as well as other transistors. This may be buried isolation, applied in the same places as the usual (surface) isolation. Such technique was sometimes used to reduce diffusion time (each diffusion only needs to penetrate half of epitaxial layer thickness until they meet) and therefore horizontal spread of isolation diffusions, which enables tighter packing of transistors.

The "unique" output PNP appears to use construction with substrate collector, ground connections are made to isolations on its sides. No "hole" in buried isolation is visible here, so the diffusion may be present under the PNP to reduce its base thickness. The color of the PNP is slightly different than other transistors and it has a narrow "frame" of yet another color, which shows that some diffusions have been applied on the surface to fabricate this structure. It appears that the process can produce a somewhat decent vertical PNP, but only with collector fixed at ground. Other PNPs in the circuit need freely usable collectors and have conventional lateral construction, so this is not a fully complementary process.

 
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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #843 on: March 17, 2026, 03:59:17 am »
I have the new revision of the μPC811 here. I can show it to you next time...




Here we have another NE5532 bought from the german company Reichelt.
Strange marking...




Ah, now we have a better picture of the UMW LM2904!  ;D

High resolution: https://www.richis-lab.de/images/Opamp/a21x02XL.jpg (17MB)


https://www.richis-lab.de/OpampA16.htm

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« Reply #844 on: March 17, 2026, 02:36:07 pm »
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NEC's font is quite unique
According to logos-world.net that 's the NEC logo 1963-1992.
Fun to see a different kind of PNP device from NJM2068 input devices in  Reply #465


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The list of manufacturers making NE5532 is surprisingly big (below)
Some of these companies may be packagers that don't design or make silicon chips. The number of die variants must be lower.
When looking for CN OPAs please consider SGmicro or 3PEAK. Unlike many CN brands secondsourcing 1970s National classics they design interesting original parts.
If you are waiting for CN clones of LT6200/HFA1112/THS3202/ADA4897/LMH6559 just give up ::) wideband analog get either integreated or phased out thus market disappeared.
ultra-precise do exist but not openly available to "general customers". Alternatively we have legacy temp-compensated zeners developed before 1990 which western amateurs have discovered.
There's at least one post in English that describes purchasing such zeners from china then build references with them but I forgot where I saw the post.

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Fundamentally, BJT is not a current gain device. A more useful model is
find myself hold the same misconception with Mr.Noopy ::)
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« Reply #845 on: March 17, 2026, 07:09:33 pm »
Alternatively we have legacy temp-compensated zeners developed before 1990 which western amateurs have discovered.
There's at least one post in English that describes purchasing such zeners from china then build references with them but I forgot where I saw the post.

2DW234?

https://www.richis-lab.de/REF23.htm


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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #846 on: March 18, 2026, 08:37:23 am »
Japan Radio Company NJM2114

Dual audio opamp advertised as an improved version of NE5532 with higher speed and lower noise and distortion. AC characteristics are indeed closer to the decompensated NE5534 than NE5532, but this comes at the cost of higher power consumption and higher input bias current, also similar to NE5534. NJM2114 is unity gain stable. Discontinued a few years ago.

The schematic is practically identical to NE5532, but there are three diodes in series with input stage collector resistors, not two.



It's one of the first chips I have decapped, probably with fire, so its condition isn't great. Metal layer has melted and turned into blobs. The triangles visible around some contact windows are hidden Illuminati symbols, nothing to see here. More seriously, they are result of etching of silicon by sodium hydroxide (something to do with the etch following crystal lattice I guess), which I tried to use to dissolve those aluminium blobs. Turns out that NaOH isn't the best option for this job. I also hoped that it could be useful for stripping oxide, but that's even more hopeless - reaction with SiO₂ is much slower than with Si itself.

But we can still see how the chip works. It's laid out like a typical dual opamp with inputs near V- and outputs near V+, unlike the 5532. Whether this is better or worse for thermal distortion and crosstalk I don't know. The input transistors use a different structure with four circular emitters and base connections all around them for low base spreading resistance. Between them, around V- pad, is the bias generator. Above are collector loads and then the second stage differential pair. Those lateral PNPs are doubled, perhaps to run at higher bias or for lower noise. Between them is the two emitter transistor from the current mirror, the mirror itself is right above. Then some compensation caps and the output stage with its bias spreader, current limiting and all that stuff.

The die is quite large at roughly 2.5×2mm.



It looks like this process too may be using buried isolation (blue arrow) in addition to the usual buried layer (violet arrows). But there are no special PNPs here, the output stage is all NPN. Use of PNPs in 553x opamps is minimized to achieve high bandwidth. Unusually, most NPN transistors (like the one here) have a frame of N diffusion around the base/emitter area to reduce collector resistance, typically such thing is only seen around power transistors. And some additional mask is used around contact windows, like in NJM2068 and NJM4580.



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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #847 on: March 18, 2026, 12:49:52 pm »
2DW234?
https://www.richis-lab.de/REF23.htm
Exactly. Appreciate your effort to find and cite those essays :D
 

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Re: Opamps - Die pictures
« Reply #848 on: March 22, 2026, 01:10:20 pm »
Japan Radio Company NJM2114
Found a roadmap of JRC OPAMPs on a japanese retailer's webpage.
https://akizukidenshi.com/goodsaffix/4558rootop.pdf
 
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« Reply #849 on: March 22, 2026, 08:40:16 pm »
I have seen this "family tree" before, but not the tables. Maybe one day a complete databook will surface. I'm curious how old are those chip like NJM2068 and NJM4580. Late '80s?

Earlier ones (4558~4562, 4556, 2041, 2043) had Raytheon equivalents listed in the 1984 databook. Supposedly JRC and Raytheon had some joint venture going on at the time. Anyway, to stay on topic,

Japan Radio Company NJM4562

One of the earlier "improved 4558" opamps with somewhat lower noise, ability to drive 600Ω and higher speed. Supposedly compensated for gains ≥ 10, which is unusually high. I haven't tried how bad it gets at lower gains in practice. Once described as a cheaper LM4562 equivalent, despite predating it by a few decades - I'm a little skeptical ;)

Simple circuit on a simple process, no surprises here.

 
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