Nozzles are the same.I suggest to buy 1-120L/m airflow version unless you have a good reason to buy more powerful version. 6-200L/m versions have significant disadvantage, once you put it on stand it starts coolingl down at max airflow and is very noisy. Also it takes more time for blower to spin up/down what according to what I've heard is pain in the ass if you place handpiece on stand and want to use it again before it completely cools down. It takes too much time to spin down and may blow off parts. Power cable is not removable. Using angled nozzles is ridiculous IMO. Useful if your hands aren't straight or you or want to use under microscope with low focus distance. Maybe makes sense for largest nozzle.
EDIT: Strange, I googled and found DA version with larger diameter heater and apparently different nozzles. But here it is the same: http://www.ams-electronics.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Quick-861DA-TDS.pdf
861DE (200l/m) has the same nozzles as 120l/m versions. Seems that particularly DA has thicker heater and different nozzles.
The 120l/m versions will not enter in stand by mode once put in stand too?
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I usually set 300-360oC depending on board, component, preheating. I will use different temperature for plastic connector and MLCC. Temperature profile as settings on station side is a dubious thing unless you want to put temperature probe on PCB, put handpiece on stand and operate with buttons on the station, thus replacing single resistor for 15 minutes. It's more useful to vary nozzle-component distance, heat the board around and then part itself.
For large BGA like chipset on motherboard this is a wrong tool. I rarely use more than 70l/m for replacing components unless it's something beefy. Most components will be just blown away.
The 120l/m versions will not enter in stand by mode once put in stand too?
It's the same but spins down faster. Example: you set 10l/m, put it on stand for 5 seconds, take it from stand again and blow with 200l/m onto your board. Or wait 5 seconds before it slows down to acceptable airflow. with 120l/m it slows down almost instantly.
Very strange using large and very expensive mouse pads instead of ESD mat. Not ESD safe, I'd say even ESD unsafe. And not high temperature resistant.
BTW, regarding blowing off parts. I find that for some reason it is much more difficult to blow the parts off or melt connectors when using 861DS compared with cheap stations like Aoyue.
Good that you say that, because I also need an good IR Station, i like Ersa tools but very expensive to me, i'm looking for and ACHI IR PRO SC, is that any good or you have better recommendation? Need something good Quality/price thats not a junk.
1) I wonder if nozzles are compatible with each other models, since on website and datasheets are not clear. Some retail websites show under noozle title or description "**** for 861AE" if handle is equal shoud not be compatible with all? 861DW seems to have more nozzles in their datasheet, why?
2) I think i will go 861DA version just because the included nozzles are angled and better to work under my microscope and also more powerful than the others versions. All other versions come with straight nozzles and i can't find the angled nozzles anywhere.
Also i already have some universal nozzles from previous station, is there any adaptor i can use with quick to reuse them?
There is an adapter than will allow the 861 series' stations to work with the Axxxx style nozzles (screw clamp).
3) I'm inside EU and DA version use UK plug, is power cable fixed or removable? Anyway if fixed i will cut UK plug and install a EU plug directly.
4) 861DE use EU connector but again straight stock nozzles, there’s any other version I’m not aware with EU and angled nozzles?
The 120l/m versions will not enter in stand by mode once put in stand too?
...[snip]...i use a IR bottom heater at 160ºc, without a nozzle the airflow is barely noticeable at 23l/m, thats why i'm thinking get DA or DE, in this case 200l/m. But i don't need the 200l for sure.
Why Angled nozzles are ridiculous?
For what i have understand nozzles are all compatible except for DA verson right?
861DE (200l/m) has the same nozzles as 120l/m versions. Seems that particularly DA has thicker heater and different nozzles.
What are theWDDW and DS differences? Only the plug?
Quote861DE (200l/m) has the same nozzles as 120l/m versions. Seems that particularly DA has thicker heater and different nozzles.From what I've seen, there's no difference other than input voltages and plugs regarding the 861 models from what's currently being manufactured.
wraper's Quick 861 has a different handle, and presumably a different heating element than mine as well (his looks the same as that used on the 957D for example). While mine has the same handle as the more expensive 855 & 856 models (these use an element cartridge that includes the stainless steel outer tube). Found the 220/230/240V replacement element for these on aliexpress for $63.
That said, do keep in mind his has served him well (and is continuing to do so). So regardless of the particulars of the handle (NOS or right off the assy. line), it will perform well.QuoteWhat are theWDDW and DS differences? Only the plug?IME, the DW version is for the US market (110V input = different transformer + different heating element). While the DA or DS models only vary in regard to the plug (both = 220V input).
DW also has 220V version . Quick is really strange in their model numbering / region availability. As I said, DA has thicker heater and uses different nozzle system, nozzle is put on and fixed by rotating it with a special key. Apparently the same nozzle system seem to be used in Quick 2008, 858D, 885.
So i will get the NK-850 adaptor and use my universal nozzles when needed.
Looks really great! Where did you order it from in the end?
Did you calibrate it, or was it that spot on OTB?
I wish they included the NK-850 here.
Nozzles are hard to find, the NK series even on Aliexpress only exist the stock ones. So i just need the adaptor and i can use all universal nozzles i had
Nozzles are hard to find, the NK series even on Aliexpress only exist the stock ones. So i just need the adaptor and i can use all universal nozzles i hadMy main desire is to be able to use it with angled round nozzles, which they don't offer in the NK series based on the nozzle .pdf on their global site. So it seems I'll either have to buy more round ones and see if I can bend them without crushing the tubes if I can't find a source for that adapter. At least the round ones are inexpensive.
FWIW, for anyone looking for NK Series Nozzles, PAC (gotopac.com) offers the full line. Do note not all are in-stock at the time of posting, and I presume they special order them for customers as needed.
No listing for the NK-850 adapter though. I guess I should send off an email and see if they can help me.
btw why not order the adaptor from somatin if you from UK?
Here: https://www.somatin.com/soldering-equipment/soldering-tips/hot-air-nozzles/0/the-adapter-sockets-quick-nk-850-a-q861ds.html
btw why not order the adaptor from somatin if you from UK?
Here: https://www.somatin.com/soldering-equipment/soldering-tips/hot-air-nozzles/0/the-adapter-sockets-quick-nk-850-a-q861ds.html
EDIT: Nevermind, you from US... Still i bet someone sell that adaptor in US and if don't why not import from UK or Poland? From Portugal send to US something like that cost about 6€ with full tracked
btw why not order the adaptor from somatin if you from UK?
Here: https://www.somatin.com/soldering-equipment/soldering-tips/hot-air-nozzles/0/the-adapter-sockets-quick-nk-850-a-q861ds.html
EDIT: Nevermind, you from US... Still i bet someone sell that adaptor in US and if don't why not import from UK or Poland? From Portugal send to US something like that cost about 6€ with full trackedI've been looking at sources I'm aware of to no avail. And the only source thus far is the link you posted above (so thanks BTW ).
Maybe they just don't sell?
The adaptor is a bless but can be part of the marketing, if no adaptor exist you need to stick and buy original nozzles
The adaptor is a bless but can be part of the marketing, if no adaptor exist you need to stick and buy original nozzlesActually I suspect it's a newer offering than what's listed on the NK series nozzle list. It may even be their intention to reduce the NK series' nozzles down to a shorter list and let the adapter be used with the A series/universal nozzles readily available.