CFW for KSGER/Quicko STM32 Soldering Stations

[ygi]

Yeah well, it's not a ST part so of course STlink won't work with it.
It's yet another obscure STM32 copy that may or may not work with David's firmware. Basically, you're on your own, it's not supported (that is, no one tested it and knows if it could work). Most of those copies have some difference, bugs or missing features that make them weird to work with.

[DavidAlfa]

Warning: it's a MM32SPIN27PF. That's a Cortex M0, so it won't be compatible with this CFW.
There isn't a single ksger with a M0 mcu, all use STM32 F1 series (cortex M3).
Porting it would be lot of work for just a single board.

I recommend replacing it with a stm32F103C8 or CB, ex. from here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001953737425.html
Might be a clone, but most work ok. Only CH32F have issues in this FW (ADC reading random values).

The connection problem is a common issue, happens with most controllers because SWD interface is disabled in software, so ST-Link won't be able to access the stm32 unless it's in reset state.
Try connecting RST pin to ST-Link. That's stm32 pin 7 (48 pin package).
It'll be connected to a capacitor, solder a wire there.

Do you want to lower the standby time even more?
1 minute is already very low, it'll enter standby after only 1 minute of inactivity.
Read the operation manual, everything is explained there. If you still have doubts, ask  .

[luqash]

Yes. I must change processor.
1 min is too much jbl soldering station goes into standby mode right away

[luqash]

Nicee xdd
I connect reset to stlink and nothing … again same problem

[DavidAlfa]

T12 boards use a shake sensor, the firmware has no way to know if the handle is in the stand, only checks the sensor for movement.
JBC uses stand detection, not a timeout. The stand itself is a signal, when the handle is placed this signal is tied to ground, making the detection possible.
You can do the same with this firmware, read the manual, that's also explained there.

Ouch, you ripped it off? Fix it, or the mcu might randomly reset, RST needs to be connected to a capacitor.
Chinese-only datasheets:
https://www.mindmotion.com.cn/en/products/mm32mcu/mm32spin/mm32spin_specific_mcu/mm32spin2x/

Edit: Direct links (Skip registration)
Datasheet
User Manual

It seems only J-Link is able to flash it, they provide custom flash scripts for it.
You can convert the St-Link into J-link OB:
https://www.segger.com/products/debug-probes/j-link/models/other-j-links/st-link-on-board/

But anyways, the CFW won't work on it.

[luqash]

I'll fix it.  can i solder the stm32 processor?  if so what?  if i can then i can use stlink?
falling asleep and waking up works but it goes to sleep only after a minute and wakes up immediately when it loses contact with the mass

[DavidAlfa]

Of course, if you use a stm32 then stlink will work.

Are you talking about the CFW? How is it failing if you couldn't even program it?
If it's about the original fw, this is not the correct thread!

CFW in stand mode willgo into sleep steane instantly when touching the stand, and resume when lifted.
If by any means the handle is not touching the stand, the timeout will still happen, preventing it from runing indefinitely.

[luqash]

this is what i am talking about CFW. on the original program it works but it turns on only after a minute ...
when I take the tip off the stand it heats up immediately

[DavidAlfa]

I'm having a hard time understanding the issue. What's wrogn in teh CFW then?
That the sleep timeout can't be set under 1 minute? Wire and use Stand mode (instead Shake mode) for instant sleeping and waking up.
Or that it heats up inmediately on movement? That's how it's supposed to be?
If it's reacting to the slightest vibration and you want to avoid that, try the Shake filtering option, should reduce the sensibility a lot.

[luqash]

wants the soldering iron to go to sleep as soon as it is put on the stand

[ygi]

That's what it does when configured in stand mode. Of course, you have to modify your stand with a switch/grounding ring and connect it to the board. You might also want to remove the shaker in the handle. As long as you do the necessary hardware mods, the CFW will do what you want.

[wickated]

wants the soldering iron to go to sleep as soon as it is put on the stand

if you want then go and buy normal solder station with normal cpu and normal fw. why the f u even complain here. this thread is for quicko\ksger stm32 stations ONLY. u dont have any

[ygi]

Maybe he wants to know if it's possible before buying parts/board he needs. Not sure if he's a "plz bro" or just can't communicate well in English.

[DavidAlfa]

What I don't understand is how he knows what the cfw does if he wasn't able to program the mm32.

[ygi]

I have a strong feeling a lot of stuff got lost in translation. I mean, it's either that or we landed in crazytown. 

[illiac4]

$wickated: I do not have a feeling he is complaining. Also he has bought Ksger 3.1 but obviously because of the chip shortage he has got some stm32 clone in it. I do not feel that you should attack him. And to be honest the documentation for modding the station to be able to work as 'pun in sleep when put into stand' is not covered very well.

[DavidAlfa]

Yep, it's we probably didn't understand each other properly due the translation or any other missunderstanding.
Don't make this thread a bad place for newbies

[wickated]

he got poland country marker, so he has to know engrish well. also there are no problem with slavic-engrish translations in google. its not arabic.
i only studied engrish via pc games and can properly read and possibly even write    . so i believe its just lazyness.

[DavidAlfa]

I also know english pretty well, anyone has english at school, yet I know very little people able to understand and write this conversation

[luqash]

Keep calm
see how sleep works in the video
I would like it to work for me too !
https://youtu.be/Yw_xHbouqxk

[DavidAlfa]

That's "Wake mode: Stand".
As explained in the manual:
SYSTEM MENU : Wake mode

In the video you posted, wake pin is wired to the stand (Internally disconnected from the T12 plug, or the shake sensor removed).
The JBC has a metal ring connected to ground, so when it touches the stand, the signal is tied to ground.
You can do the same with a T12 handle.

If it's the plastic handle then you'll need to use a switch.
Check Wickated's stand for reference:

[luqash]

I have fabric soft…
I know that on your soft everything work well
Tomorrow I change my shit clone stm to stm32f101cbt6 and I will upload your soft

[M-Reimer]

Please start writing in full sentences and without ugly abbreviations 🤨

[wickated]

Please start writing in full sentences and without ugly abbreviations 🤨

r u k7

[AleksoBre]

Hey guys, I've been researching about these t12 stations. The fact that I'm from Serbia kind of limits my options a little bit. I've narrowed it down to these 2 options but would appreciate some help in deciding the one to buy. BTW this is my first soldering station, so sorry in advance if I don't know something .

1. https://www.banggood.com/Quicko-T12-942-MINI-OLED-Digital-Soldering-Station-T12-907-Handle-with-T12-K-Iron-Tips-Welding-Tool-p-1326151.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=search
2. https://www.banggood.com/T12-Soldering-Station-Infrared-Soldering-Station-Portable-BGA-Rework-Station-Welding-Tools-200-450-with-T12-K-T12-BL-Soldering-Tips-p-1764997.html?cur_warehouse=CN&rmmds=search

The benefits of the quicko are the better display which I really like, and that it's without PSU (I can get a used laptop one here for under 5$) which is a lot safer
The benefits of the Handskit are the vastly better pen, the other included tip (which I've heard is a lot useful), and the stand.

The main thing I want to know, since I've never soldered before is if the Quicko pen is really that bad? Thanks in advance!