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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #450 on: August 14, 2020, 09:32:39 pm »
The whole thing reminds me of my "experience" with our new, ways more expensive lecroy scopes.
On this two models, I couldn´t compensate the probe proper, always a little overshoot visible.
Lecory told me, yeah this was a problem where we don´t got a suitable solution for our customers.
A "famous" member here wrote me, it were the probes, so what I want to suggest is, change the probes, see if they could get fully compensating.
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #451 on: August 15, 2020, 03:18:39 pm »
Are there any news on an upcoming firmware upgrade? I reported quite a couple of smaller issues and feature requests to Siglent and since then eagerly waiting for that update ...
 

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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #452 on: September 29, 2020, 11:42:01 am »
New firmware released today!
https://www.siglenteu.com/service-and-support/firmware-software/digital-oscilloscopes/#sds5000x-series

9/29/2020 0.9.3R3

1. Expanded the offset range

2. New serial protocols supported (optional):
a) SENT, trigger & decode
b) Manchester, decode only

3. Measurement enhancement:
a) Supported user-defined thresholds (Upper, Middle and Lower):
Measure | Config | Threshold
b) Added items: +Area@AC, -Area@AC, Area@AC, AbsArea@AC

4. Math:
a) Added new operator – Interpolate
b) Added function expression information to the math descriptor box

5. Display:
a) Supported selectable color for traces: Display | Color Setting
b) Supported floating menu so that the waveform is not compressed horizontally when the right-side menu is displayed: Display | MenuStyle
c) Supported to hide analog traces

6. Save/Recall:
a) Added option “Save all channel” for csv file
b) Supported to save math traces (except FFT)

7. Supported serial trigger as source of the frequency counter

8. Supported LeCroy probes ZD1000/ZD1500 with LPA10 probe adapter; supported Tek TekProbe interface level II probes with TPA10 probe adapter

9. Added button to reset remote password: Utility | System Setting | I/O | Web Server

10. Fixed several bugs
a) AutoSet cannot find signal with small duty-cycle and large offset in AC/LFR coupling mode
b) Sometimes the FFT Harmonics Marker results are not correct
c) Backlight is not shutdown when screensaver is active
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #453 on: September 29, 2020, 07:46:58 pm »
Hopefully some of the enhancements will come also for the sds2k+, especially:

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5. Display:
a) Supported selectable color for traces: Display | Color Setting
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #454 on: September 29, 2020, 08:11:23 pm »
2. New serial protocols supported (optional):
a) SENT, trigger & decode

about time ;)
 

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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #455 on: September 29, 2020, 08:30:57 pm »
Hopefully some of the enhancements will come also for the sds2k+, especially:

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5. Display:
a) Supported selectable color for traces: Display | Color Setting
And fix the lost digital trigger after reboot......done now for SDS5kX.  :phew:
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #456 on: September 29, 2020, 08:54:33 pm »
Many enhancements that were being requested/observed. Well done, Siglent!  :-+
 
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #457 on: September 29, 2020, 09:26:04 pm »
...And shame on the Lecroy/Siglent scopes, as we are still waiting for a important bugfix since 2 years.  :(
(I think it was the fault by lecroy only in this case, as they are "giving" the software for it)
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #458 on: September 29, 2020, 09:27:39 pm »
Many enhancements that were being requested/observed. Well done, Siglent!  :-+
Magic still works.  ;)
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #459 on: September 29, 2020, 09:39:13 pm »
No magic, it´s the enthusiasm of the siglent developement team, which separates them drastically from other opponents in the so called "B-Brand" class, imho.
I´m glad being returning to them... 8)
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #460 on: September 29, 2020, 09:45:59 pm »
A wee peek at just a couple of the new additions......

User selectable trace colors, these are in the Display menu and screenshots below give the idea of what's now possible.






There are changes to how the menus/graticules are managed when menus are active. This new feature is also in the Display menu.
In summary, previous behavior is unchanged where the display was compressed when menus were active.
Now we also have the option to have the menus overlay the display for the same display/graticule ratio whether menus are active or not. Floating or Embedded.

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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #461 on: October 04, 2020, 10:07:09 am »
It would have been great if not only the threshold were selectable but also the polarity. While it's nice that e.g. there is a positive and negative duty cycle measurement (which is missing even in some 1st brand scopes), there is e.g. no polarity selection for frequency. One might argue that polarity doesn't matter for frequency but this isn't generally true. E.g. a square wave created with a low side driver and a pullup will have a steeper and more stable falling edge. There are also mechanical systems measured with hall sensors where only the accuracy of one edge is well defined.
In a nutshell, I'd suggest to make polarity (or polarities) parameter(s) of all the horizontal measurement instead of using separate measurements to select polarity. This would also make the delay measurements much more manageable.

Side note: I wonder if there is any chance to mimic the LeCroy way of zooming into a detail (by dragging a rectangle around the part of the signal you want to see). While you can get used to anything I guess, after more of a decade of using the LeCroy way of zooming, the Siglent way feels off.
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #462 on: October 14, 2020, 10:10:18 am »
There seems to be a free option bundle again until March 31st 2021:
https://www.siglenteu.com/news-article/address-more-applications-with-the-free-option-bundle-for-new-sds5000x-oscilloscopes/

The options seems to be the same as for the first bundle, so the SENT and Manchester decoding options added with the last update are not included.
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #463 on: January 20, 2021, 07:25:16 pm »
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #464 on: April 30, 2021, 05:55:11 am »
New firmware for SDS5000X models.

Version V0.9.5R1
62.5 MB
https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Oscilloscope/SDS5000X_V0.9.5R1_EN.zip

Release notes:
Expanded the post-trigger range from 5,000 to 10,000 divisions
Measurement:
Supported cursors for measurement
Supported Track plot
Display:
Supported to show bandwidth information on the channel descriptor box
Supported to display axis label
Save/Recall:
Supported to Print only grid area
Supported to save FFT result
DVM: Supported limit beeper
Updated Russian menu
Fixed several bugs
Last Save/Recall path is not remembered
Measurement invalid in Roll when acquisition stops and Zoom is enabled
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #465 on: April 30, 2021, 09:32:19 pm »
Ah nice,
So chances are good, that a new FW for the 2K+ will come soon also.
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #466 on: May 01, 2021, 10:09:05 am »
Yeah, but there's nothing totally exciting in that firmware update, or is it?
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #467 on: May 01, 2021, 10:45:06 am »
It depends on
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Fixed several bugs
, imho.
Not all of the fixed one were listed, as I remember it right, what tautech once "said".
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #468 on: May 14, 2021, 12:41:17 pm »
My SDS5000X did arrive Wednesday, only no options installed. A mail to Batronix gave me a quick reply that they would contact Siglent and today I got the licence keys. The first key (FG) gave me the responce " NOT VALID" . The other keys were accepted. Unfortunately there was no key for MSO.
I entered my serialnr in the well known PY script and I got different keys then I got from Siglent. So is the script not working or are there more then one possible keys?
For the bandwith do I use the MCBD command or use the bandwith option?
I am not liberating anything before checking full functionality.
I did check the bandwith with a RF signal generator and -3dB is at 360MHz.
And now back to my new toy.

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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #469 on: May 14, 2021, 01:27:51 pm »
You entered your scope ID into the script, didn't you? And "FG" doesn't exist for these models. The "arbitrary waveform generator" key is created with "AWG".
As far as I  remember, entering the bandwidth upgrade is only possible from 350 to 500MHz but not to 1GHz with the 350MHz model. So if you want to get the highest possible bandwidth (750MHz or so) with the 350MHz model, you need to use the MCBD command.
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #470 on: May 14, 2021, 01:53:57 pm »
Scoop option menu:sds-5000x-FG
Key from Siglent: FG: afwz .........
 

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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #471 on: May 14, 2021, 06:42:34 pm »
For Siglent equipments there are no 2 licenses for the same option!
 
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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #472 on: May 14, 2021, 06:58:28 pm »
For Siglent equipments there are no 2 licenses for the same option!
That would mean that the script isn't working for options. My keys from Siglent are lower case and not upper case.
 

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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #473 on: May 14, 2021, 09:06:55 pm »
Hi Techneut,

Yes the script is working. As you have also the original keys for some functions you can easily check if your input is correct. MANC en SENT might not yet be included in your script and can be added manually. As TV84 stated there is only one key per item possible.
 

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Re: At last, Siglent's SDS5054X touchscreen DSO...
« Reply #474 on: May 14, 2021, 09:25:19 pm »
For Siglent equipments there are no 2 licenses for the same option!
That would mean that the script isn't working for options. My keys from Siglent are lower case and not upper case.
The official Siglent AWG license is: SDS-5000X-FG and alphanumeric license strings are always lowercase.

Unofficial license generators may call a license by a different name and generate codes with uppercase characters.  ::)
Contact Batronix and have them supply another SDS-5000X-FG license and maybe take a screenshot of the Invalid message.

We normally get license authorization codes from the factory then visit a Siglent license website to redeem them and where the real option licenses are generated.
Easiest and best way to install them is via the instruments webrowser as everything can be entered with Copy/Paste.
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