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With the stick in I can see it being accessed when the scope is starting up, after a second or two from reading from it though it moves immediately into it's normal boot cycle and then comes up clean on the internally installed firmware.  Any suggestions?

Which FW are you on?

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Hi

I know that the DSOX200*A can be upgrade to DSOX201*A [DSOX2BW1*], and the DSOX201*A can be upgrade to DSOX202*A [DSOX2BW2*].
Now, I know that a DSOX2002A with the hack can become in a DSOX2022A, but its real BW is only 160MHz (-3dB).
Is this also the real BW for a DSOX202*A? The datasheet says 200MHz (-3dB warranted).
Please, can someone with a DSOX201*A or a DSOX202*A measure its bandwidth (without probe, straight to BNC, using a 50 Ohm Feed Through)?

Thanks.

Note: Also, I remember read in the forum that all have the same input stage.
         The input stage is based on the LMH6518?
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Re: Agilent DSOX2k, MSOX2k. DSOX3k, MSOX3k hack
« Reply #352 on: January 12, 2014, 09:51:08 pm »
Until a few days ago, Newark showed the N6450-60001 16 ch. logic cable assembly for around ~ USD $600.  I no longer see the cable assembly anywhere on-line without purchasing the full DSOX3MSO upgrade kit.  Impeccable timing, isn't it?   Can anyone else spot its availability?   

I was looking for the logic cable assembly as well.  I ended up buying the one below off ebay the other day for my DSOX3k.  It shipped within 12 hours.  I'll have it in my hands tomorrow and can report back.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-54620-61801-54620-61601-54620-68701-POD-KIT-/121237102705?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:CA:3160
 
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Now, I know that a DSOX2002A with the hack can become in a DSOX2022A, but its real BW is only 160MHz (-3dB).

How did you test this? As Agilent are willing to sell a software license key to make a DSOX2002A into a DSOX2022A, I would presume that all of them are capable of the full warranted BW (200MHz -3dB point). It isn't like they are binning the front-end and putting the slow ones in the DSOX2002A models.
 
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Re: Agilent DSOX2k, MSOX2k. DSOX3k, MSOX3k hack
« Reply #354 on: January 13, 2014, 07:40:12 am »
Until a few days ago, Newark showed the N6450-60001 16 ch. logic cable assembly for around ~ USD $600.  I no longer see the cable assembly anywhere on-line without purchasing the full DSOX3MSO upgrade kit.  Impeccable timing, isn't it?   Can anyone else spot its availability?   

I was looking for the logic cable assembly as well.  I ended up buying the one below off ebay the other day for my DSOX3k.  It shipped within 12 hours.  I'll have it in my hands tomorrow and can report back.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-54620-61801-54620-61601-54620-68701-POD-KIT-/121237102705?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:CA:3160
Thnaks this type seems to have the same pinout and hopefully will be compatible.
 
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Hi

I know that the DSOX200*A can be upgrade to DSOX201*A [DSOX2BW1*], and the DSOX201*A can be upgrade to DSOX202*A [DSOX2BW2*].
Now, I know that a DSOX2002A with the hack can become in a DSOX2022A, but its real BW is only 160MHz (-3dB).
Is this also the real BW for a DSOX202*A? The datasheet says 200MHz (-3dB warranted).
Please, can someone with a DSOX201*A or a DSOX202*A measure its bandwidth (without probe, straight to BNC, using a 50 Ohm Feed Through)?

Thanks.

Note: Also, I remember read in the forum that all have the same input stage.
         The input stage is based on the LMH6518?

I tested the badwidth and upgrade on 3k series and it was accordng to spec. I used the "FreeElectron" Jim Williams pulse generator. See one of my post in this thread.
How did you measure and calculate BW?
Did you use the Agilent offer for free bandwith upgrade?
 
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Just a quick check with a sweepgenerator my 2012A with BW20 drops off at  ~250MHz.
Make sure you're using good probes if you're not using straight coax, the supplied ones for me was only 150MHz...
 
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I tested the badwidth and upgrade on 3k series and it was accordng to spec. I used the "FreeElectron" Jim Williams pulse generator. See one of my post in this thread.
How did you measure and calculate BW?
Did you use the Agilent offer for free bandwith upgrade?

Since Agilent specifies that DSOX2000A response is Gaussian (0.35), yes the "FreeElectron" Jim Williams pulse generator is OK.

But I prefer the traditional method (sweep up to -3dB), because from what I've learned, the set can be a combination between flat and/or Gaussian.

Yes, I know that offer, farnell and rs-online, apply it directly.

Thanks.
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Just a quick check with a sweepgenerator my 2012A with BW20 drops off at  ~250MHz.
Make sure you're using good probes if you're not using straight coax, the supplied ones for me was only 150MHz...
Exactly, that's what I wanted to know.
Thanks.  ;)
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By the way, after ~4 days, Agilent continues without giving me an answer.
Anyone know if the trigger is digital for the 2000X series?

Thanks.
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Re: Agilent DSOX2k, MSOX2k. DSOX3k, MSOX3k hack
« Reply #360 on: January 13, 2014, 06:51:40 pm »
Until a few days ago, Newark showed the N6450-60001 16 ch. logic cable assembly for around ~ USD $600.  I no longer see the cable assembly anywhere on-line without purchasing the full DSOX3MSO upgrade kit.  Impeccable timing, isn't it?   Can anyone else spot its availability?   

I was looking for the logic cable assembly as well.  I ended up buying the one below off ebay the other day for my DSOX3k.  It shipped within 12 hours.  I'll have it in my hands tomorrow and can report back.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-54620-61801-54620-61601-54620-68701-POD-KIT-/121237102705?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:CA:3160

Travisc, please provide us with an update as to whether or not your logic cable is working.  Thank you!
 
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Re: Agilent DSOX2k, MSOX2k. DSOX3k, MSOX3k hack
« Reply #361 on: January 13, 2014, 09:34:04 pm »
Until a few days ago, Newark showed the N6450-60001 16 ch. logic cable assembly for around ~ USD $600.  I no longer see the cable assembly anywhere on-line without purchasing the full DSOX3MSO upgrade kit.  Impeccable timing, isn't it?   Can anyone else spot its availability?   

I was looking for the logic cable assembly as well.  I ended up buying the one below off ebay the other day for my DSOX3k.  It shipped within 12 hours.  I'll have it in my hands tomorrow and can report back.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-54620-61801-54620-61601-54620-68701-POD-KIT-/121237102705?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:CA:3160
Or catch them through the forum at a good discount: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/fs-hpagilent-logic-pods/msg189290/#msg189290

Tested on a MSOX and work perfectly.
 
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Re: Agilent DSOX2k, MSOX2k. DSOX3k, MSOX3k hack
« Reply #362 on: January 13, 2014, 09:59:50 pm »
Until a few days ago, Newark showed the N6450-60001 16 ch. logic cable assembly for around ~ USD $600.  I no longer see the cable assembly anywhere on-line without purchasing the full DSOX3MSO upgrade kit.  Impeccable timing, isn't it?   Can anyone else spot its availability?   

I was looking for the logic cable assembly as well.  I ended up buying the one below off ebay the other day for my DSOX3k.  It shipped within 12 hours.  I'll have it in my hands tomorrow and can report back.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-54620-61801-54620-61601-54620-68701-POD-KIT-/121237102705?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:CA:3160
Or catch them through the forum at a good discount: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/buysellwanted/fs-hpagilent-logic-pods/msg189290/#msg189290

Tested on a MSOX and work perfectly.
Is it includng grabbers and the grounding extension?
 
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Re: Agilent DSOX2k, MSOX2k. DSOX3k, MSOX3k hack
« Reply #363 on: January 13, 2014, 10:15:46 pm »
Until a few days ago, Newark showed the N6450-60001 16 ch. logic cable assembly for around ~ USD $600.  I no longer see the cable assembly anywhere on-line without purchasing the full DSOX3MSO upgrade kit.  Impeccable timing, isn't it?   Can anyone else spot its availability?   

I was looking for the logic cable assembly as well.  I ended up buying the one below off ebay the other day for my DSOX3k.  It shipped within 12 hours.  I'll have it in my hands tomorrow and can report back.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-54620-61801-54620-61601-54620-68701-POD-KIT-/121237102705?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:CA:3160

Travisc, please provide us with an update as to whether or not your logic cable is working.  Thank you!

Just an update to the logic cable assembly I purchased off eBay.  I received it today.  I tested all 16 lines with my DSOX3 series scope and they worked fine.  The quality of the cables, wires, and probes are excellent.  The probes and connectors all have little Agilent logos on them.  The parts were well packed, and the bags they came in had Agilent part and lot numbers on them.  It's the real deal.  I'm very happy with them.
 
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Re: Agilent DSOX2k, MSOX2k. DSOX3k, MSOX3k hack
« Reply #364 on: January 13, 2014, 10:58:13 pm »
Until a few days ago, Newark showed the N6450-60001 16 ch. logic cable assembly for around ~ USD $600.  I no longer see the cable assembly anywhere on-line without purchasing the full DSOX3MSO upgrade kit.  Impeccable timing, isn't it?   Can anyone else spot its availability?   

I was looking for the logic cable assembly as well.  I ended up buying the one below off ebay the other day for my DSOX3k.  It shipped within 12 hours.  I'll have it in my hands tomorrow and can report back.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-54620-61801-54620-61601-54620-68701-POD-KIT-/121237102705?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:CA:3160

Travisc, please provide us with an update as to whether or not your logic cable is working.  Thank you!

Just an update to the logic cable assembly I purchased off eBay.  I received it today.  I tested all 16 lines with my DSOX3 series scope and they worked fine.  The quality of the cables, wires, and probes are excellent.  The probes and connectors all have little Agilent logos on them.  The parts were well packed, and the bags they came in had Agilent part and lot numbers on them.  It's the real deal.  I'm very happy with them.

Great.  I just ordered the same set.  Thanks for getting back to us!
 
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So i ordered now the second last one.
The Original part costs around 900Euros.
http://www.home.agilent.com/myagilent/faces/partDetail.jspx?partNumber=N6450-60001
 
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There isnt by chance any way to enable 16 digital lines for the X-2000 series instead of the 8 is there?
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There isnt by chance any way to enable 16 digital lines for the X-2000 series instead of the 8 is there?

From Dave's teardown, no. The buffer chips etc aren't loaded.
 
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Inside  N6459-61601 (logic analyzer probe cable)


 
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Has anyone ordered a new DSOX-3034A from Newark or TEquipment.net in the US?  I wonder if it is likely to have firmware 2.35 or 2.36 on it....

@travisc: you got your DSOX-3034A just last week; was that from a US distributor?
 
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Has anyone ordered a new DSOX-3034A from Newark or TEquipment.net in the US?  I wonder if it is likely to have firmware 2.35 or 2.36 on it....

@travisc: you got your DSOX-3034A just last week; was that from a US distributor?

I bought mine at Newark in the US.
 
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I just tested, original Firmware 2.36 did not work for USB boot, just resulted in cyclic blinking of the buttons with no software being started.

Then, I "updated" to the latest firmware available from the Agilent homepage (2.35) - as suggested by the scope itself.

Now, USB boot works perfectly fine.

Stick is a SanDisk Extreme USB 3.0 16GB.
 
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Yay!!!

Just got a customer return DSO-X3000 returned back from Agilent calibration date 2 Jan 2014, they upgraded it to firmware 2.36.

Downgraded to 2.35 from the Agilent website, edited the DLL and created a USB drive and now it's all options enabled!!

Got the 'WARNING: Unfinalised software' message but otherwise perfect!!

Very happy bunny indeed  :)

Anybody now want a Rigol 2072 all options enabled brand new in box never used??!!

Helpful link...
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2063383/DSOX3000%20hack.zip
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I had to try about a dozen USB sticks till I finally got one that worked reliably.

Didn't work:
Kingmax 32GB USB3 (50% of the time it was ok)
SanDisk Cruser Edge 8GB
SanDisk Cruser Edge 16GB
pqi 16GB USB3
Verbatim 16GB
PNY 8GB

Worked:
Kingston 4GB microSD with adaptor
DaneElec 2GB SD with cheapo USB card reader
Integral 8GB (Argos £7 cheapest they sold) http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9093410.htm

In my experience cheaper slower smaller is better...?
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