I was summarizing the state of the art regarding licensing the MSO5000. My comment about "last posts" was focused on your considerations about the patching techniques being employed, nothing about you trying to summarize things for other people.
BTW, my post was not worthy of a 2-pages response, and specially the unpleasant comments. 
so... Are you saying that if we use his procedure, then....
When future updates come out , we won't have to worry about patching,we'll just update with the upgrade file and all the options will
still be there, but.. if we use the patch then we have to repatch each time
and if that's thecase, and we have already applied the patch and have the updates.
then, How do we apply his technique if we have already patched it ?
Yes. I was saying exactly that in a summarized way.
It was because I suspected that you hadn't understood that feature, that I decide to write it in a very simple way and not a convoluted way!
I didn't criticize your will to help others. I simply called your attention to the fact that there is a more modern way (available in this thread) to "correctly" license the scope without future patchings!
What you are doing is not called "licensing". It's called "bypassing the licensing"!
How do we apply his technique if we have already patched it ?
You should have been able to answer this yourself: just flash the latest stock FW and follow his procedure which, BTW, doesn't require the electron collider that you talk about. Study his posts more carefully.
"BTW, my post was not worthy of a 2-pages response, and specially the unpleasant comments"
WHAT UNPLEASANT COMMENTS ? , There were no unpleasant comments.
"Yes. I was saying exactly that in a summarized way."
OK
"I didn't criticize your will to help others."
I DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU DID
You know what.. (can i be honest) so far.. You seem to be really treading lightly or doing this "Brevity " thing
I mean look
"trying to summarize things"
"worthy of a 2-pages response"
"in a summarized way. "
"write it in a very simple way"
"and not a convoluted way!"
so... Do you have like a PTSD thing where things need to be kept brief ? Because call me crazy, but i'm sensing a theme here.
it seems that you are bothered if a post is longer
SO HERE'S THE THING
1. You didn't advise me that when you speaking to you i need to be cautious
2. You didn't advise me that when speaking to you i need to keep it under 7 words or whatever is your acceptable word count
You need to understand that everyone is not the same and that people speak differently and have different ways of expressing themselves.
Take me for example... When a person whinges to me about a post being "too long" I PURPOSELY MAKE THE NEXT POST LONGER
Why ?
So the person understands a few things
1. They were wrong
2. Not everyone is held to the standards that they want the world to be held too
3. That person is not my mother or father and doesn't have a right to say these things
4. That person needs to bloody relax and not take shit so seriously
You've made seversal mistakes, one of them seems to be that you think that i'm upset or.. something to that effect.
what was it, something about UNPLEASANT COMMENTS ? No, there was none of that , So therefore you misunderstood.
Secondly : I don't have a maximum word count here, ok. I don't hold anyone to a word count and i expect the same courtesy in return.
3rd, You are really really really putting in a big effort to tread very very carefully with me
HEADS UP......... YOU DONT NEED TO
and no one said or assumed or implied that you are criticizing me. Mate, i think you're just taking shit way way too seriously or that you're overly sensitive . The manner in which you reply shows that clearly.
4. You asked a question, I ANSWERED IT.
I mean... LOL... is that not what you wanted ?
and if you didn't, then why did you ask the question ?
You asked a question, i didn't purposely write a long post, I PURPOSELY intended to give you a full and correct response.
I would have expected a "Thanks martin for the effort" Instead i got a "Martin your post is to bloody long"
LOL
Ohh you gotta love it
Well, for the record, i don't care if my post is too long, Just like everyone else, i will write my post as long or as short as i like.
" I simply called your attention to the fact that there is a more modern way (available in this thread) to "correctly" license the scope
without future patchings!"
OK, THANK YOU
You also called to my attention that i shouldn't exceed a certain word count with you LOL
but ok thanks for bringing that to my attention, Now, if you want to debate, why i'm not keeping up.
well mat e(on a personal note) - My father passed away, 5 other family members passed away including my best mate
and then there's a lot more stuff we don't need to get into.
So.. You'll have to forgive me if i didn't keep up (in the last year) with the latest SSH updates, OK
I have every intention of going through it, but really, right now ,i'm just playing catch up with my life.
and as politely as i can say this ....Who made you the comment section word count police ?
Just let people comment how they want to comment. I've read some of your past pots, you have a tendancy to do this.
you also have a tendancy to tell people when they writing something incorrectly
FOR THE RECORD, I've also found things that you have written that were incorrect. Do you think they can't be pulled up
simply stated : won't do you just focus on the scopes and not worry about how long or short something is ,
I'm a different kind of person so... i won't take anything that you say personally, you literally can't offend me. HOWEVER... i can absolutely see
how you would give someone else the shits
so.. this is me bringing one of your faults to your attention for consideration and modification (and .. Bringing it to your attention in a very blunt, but nicest way possible kind of way), OK, just so we are clear
MOVING FORWARD TO YOUR OTHER POINTS
"What you are doing is not called "licensing". It's called "bypassing the licensing"!"
OK, thanks, i didn't realize we were bypassing, i thought what we were doing was licensing the scope.
I mean, if we look at the progression from the DS1052E through to the DS2000A then the DS1054Z and then the MSo5000 Series,
i was under the understanding the entire time that what we were doing was applying the ACTUAL LICENCE KEY so the scope is unlocked
then the scope stated this, so why would anyone have a reason to think otherwise,
then you stated if we do the SSH thing that we are actually licensing it
OK, I CAN THEN SEE A BENEFIT IN THAT and i'll look into the process (by all means)
HOWEVER WE HAVE THIS
You mentioned "if the method doesn't corrupt the FRAM"
Ok, and what is the failure rate of that happening ?
Now i would like to address this...
I SAID
"How do we apply his technique if we have already patched it ? "
YOU RESPONDED in a completely useless manner
"You should have been able to answer this yourself: just flash the latest stock FW and follow his procedure which, BTW, doesn't require the electron collider that you talk about. Study his posts more carefully."
OK, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO..
- Figure out that i wasn't upset
- Figure out that you didn't need to tread carefully
- Figure out that you don't need to censor how long or short a post is
etc etc
BUT YOU DIDN'T, DID YOU ?
You should also have considered that i have a lot of other things going on in my life (or.. COULD HAVE)
BUT YOU DIDN'T , DID YOU ?
so.. there' s no need to respond like this,
if i ask you a question, Just answer it (i didn't ask you a dumb question like what is 1+1) i asked a fair question
Now this
"Study his posts more carefully"
WELL YOU SHOULD READ MY POST MORE CAREFULLY, don't be so quick to judge others
See.. You said this ...
"which, BTW, doesn't require the electron collider that you talk about. "
I was not asking " DOES IT REQUIRE IT"
I was asking
FYI - I have a JTAGulator
I was asking... Can i use the JTAGulator to interogate the scope in this manner and perform the process ?
I also mentioned other boards, just in case they could be used as well. so that i wouldn't have to potentionally buy another piece of kit.
So.. in your mission to be brief can you see how many mistakes you've made ?
I also asked
DOES THAT HELP ? You didn't answer that (see, i dont' ask questions without a reason) the purpose of that question was also for brevity,
to get confirmation if you now understand what i mean or if you need further input
Now mate, this post has been made to you purposely to be very blunt.
I understand it's normal to take this as rudeness which is why i'm now going to advise you that none of this was rudeness.
and i expect you to not take it as rudeness , i expect you to take it as feedback , i expect you to take it as , others probably won't tell you this stuff , they will probably TOLERATE you . (should they have to though ?)
Mate, we are all here for electronics at the end of the day, Not to be censored on our word count or have someone pop on who is really
sensitive and make things awkward... yeah ?
SO.. WANNA START OVER
Feel free to give your thoughts
Feel free to say anything in response
Just do me a favour
1. Don't assume that i'm upset
2. Don't tread carefully with me ok, Just bloody say what you're feeling
Now (Respectfully) if that feeling is "Martin your posts are too bloody long"
1. This is who i am
2. I don't care, since i wasn't intentionally trying to make it long (Unlike this post, which i did purposely drag on, so you have a basis for comparison)
but go ahead... speak your mind , and also understand you are not here to educate us on wordcount, We are here to respect each other.
NOW IS THAT FAIR ENOUGH OR WHAT ?
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