New oscilloscope from Fnirsi DPOS350P

[RAPo]

what is the source of this information?
asoon as there are some DPO350Pś in the wild and the scope is any good my guess is people will start hacking ...

It is not possible to operate this device with a mouse, so if you need this capability just forget.

[Atlan]

scope is any good

Do you really believe that it will be good? I don't.

[ptluis]

what is the source of this information?
asoon as there are some DPO350Pś in the wild and the scope is any good my guess is people will start hacking ...

It is not possible to operate this device with a mouse, so if you need this capability just forget.

I asked my contact at fnirsi

[RAPo]

no-
but is part of an if clause.
It could be, but more likely not, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

scope is any good

Do you really believe that it will be good? I don't.

[svetlov]

 JINHAN SMTO1002S is released in this format and with honest characteristics - the board has chips installed that are installed in entry-level stationary devices HAD 1511 and SPARTAN 6 - not a single chip is erased, everything is visible - the board has four channels - for the two missing channels, SMD components are already soldered except for operational amplifiers
it also has a built-in generator up to 25 megahertz

[ptluis]

scope is any good

Do you really believe that it will be good? I don't.

Claimed 350MHz with only 1GS/s and 60kpts, must use some degree of software manipulation to display a nice sinewave

[Atlan]

According to everything it will be 1013D with new display (so that there are nice pictures) and generator. According to pictures there are many things similar to 1013D. Then the price does not correspond to the features of the product, and many common things that "normal oscilloscopes" have will be missing.

Let's be surprised

[BillyO]

Not all, but most are very bad.

...

By the way, I am satisfied with 3 of my 13 Fnirsi products, I got what I expected, but the rest are...

Yeah, I'm not quite convinced as to your veracity here.

Why would you keep buying them if they don't work properly, or are you just another one that refuses to read specifications, then judges a product on pre-conceived notions rather than on published facts?  Like your assessment of the 2C53P - "lacks many features".  Exactly what features did they promise that they did not deliver"

I have tested the following items personally, and in all cases I READ THE F"N MANUAL before I got them, so was not surprised out of my mind when they only came with the claimed functionality. 

2C53P: Met all specifications and indeed exceeded some.  All claimed functions were delivered.  I did not find any "bugs" - maybe, if they are not of the type "It didn't work they way I think it should" you could provide a list of these "bugs".

DSO-152: Met all specifications.  All claimed functions were delivered.

DMC-100: Met all specifications.  All claimed functions were delivered.

DMT-99: Met all specifications.  All claimed functions were delivered.  Only thing that bothered me was the non-standard jack spacing.

HS-01: Met all specifications.  All claimed functions were delivered.  Impressive for the price.

HS-02: Met all specifications.  All claimed functions were delivered.  Personally prefer the HS-01.

DPS-150: Met all specifications.  All claimed functions were delivered.  Impressive noise figures and response to load changes.  Again, non standard jack spacing.

LCR-ST1: Met all specifications.  All claimed functions were delivered.  When compared to others in it's price range, it comes out ahead.

LCR-P1: Initial release had several issues:  Most of these have been addressed via firmware updates.  Still leaves something to be desired.

FNB58: Met all specifications.  All claimed functions were delivered.  Impressive set of features for the price.

FNB48S: Met all specifications.  All claimed functions were delivered.  Spend a bit more and get the FNB58.

[ptluis]

I've been searching on AliExpress for purchases feedback and the positive ones are all fake! It's easy to detect them by the date, country. So to all thinking on buying one like myself it's better to stay quiet and wait for a proper review from youtubers
bloggers, foruns etc.

[RAPo]

Fnirsi said that delivery outside China should start mid-April, and for Europe.
If you can wait for delivery until May, a case will be added, and no import fees.
So real reviews will popup at the end of May.

[ptluis]

Fnirsi said that delivery outside China should start mid-April, and for Europe.
If you can wait for delivery until May, a case will be added, and no import fees.
So real reviews will popup at the end of May.

Yeah I know, most of the fake positive feedback are from supposed buyers from USA, and that's not possible due to the release time, delivery time, etc

I'll wait for proper reviews, I'm interested in the bode plot feature, and spectrum analyzer.

[fredo_]

Yet another tiktok-style promotional video from Fnirsi in portrait mode
https://fb.watch/z0Ypf8Sl9t/

[ptluis]

Yet another tiktok-style promotional video from Fnirsi in portrait mode
https://fb.watch/z0Ypf8Sl9t/

No stuttering, at least cpu power seems enough.

[Atlan]

Finally a video where they actually do something. (I wrote late at night) sorry

[DaneLaw]

Konecne video kde aj nieco robia.

Why the Slovakian language?
Use English, as it's gonna tumble the forum if we all start to use our native tongue..

[ptluis]

I've got a reply from Fnirsi, they plan to start shipping orders on 20th April. Let's see if they can.

[ptluis]

A little update for EU and US customers!

From their website:
"In order to cope with the high tariffs in the EU and the US, we will send the products to the EU and US warehouses, so the delivery will be delayed by about one month."
"If US and EU customers willing to accept customs duties and wish to have your order shipped immediately, please contact us after placing your order."

[Sorama]

So, if one is willing to wait (a month) there are no custom taxes?

[pcprogrammer]

So, if one is willing to wait (a month) there are no custom taxes?

You can order it on AliExpress for the price mentioned, but delivery is set on 18 June. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008670427525.html

Only when a foreign web shop sells without charging VAT under the agreement that several years ago was made will there be customs and administration fees to be paid.

Edit: The prices on AliExpress have a wide spread, and if you are willing to fork over >400 euro you can get it half way May. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008683233730.html

[Sorama]

That’s not how I read it.
They explicitly say that when you’re willing to pay customs, it will be shipped immediately.
So what’s the difference for us, EU, to wait a month ?

[pcprogrammer]

That’s not how I read it.
They explicitly say that when you’re willing to pay customs, it will be shipped immediately.
So what’s the difference for us, EU, to wait a month ?

That is on FNIRSI's own web shop. They most likely are not in the European tax agreement and don't charge the VAT as such. They do state on their page with shipping information to take care of fees for products under 150 dollar, what ever this means.

https://www.fnirsi.com/pages/shipping-policy

On AliExpress the VAT is taken care of and there won't be additional import duties, at least not that I know of. You are also covered when your package gets lost or damaged. For this kind of money, I would not risk buying from FNIRSI directly.

I'm also not so sure that they can guarantee the US costumers that there won't be additional fees, even when handled through local warehouses. As soon as something is presented to customs, import duties will have to be paid, unless already taken care of on forehand. The latter has been the case on Alixpress for several years now. At least for European customers.

Edit1: If one is willing to pay the import duties and the package is shipped immediately, one can expect the postman to ring (email) and present you with a bill. There will be VAT, possibly some custom duties and administration fees on that bill.

Edit2: For more information check your local tax information web site. For Belgium I found this one: https://fin.belgium.be/en/private-individuals/international/online-purchases-abroad/problems/additional-costs

[RAPo]

Mail text from Fnirsi Official

Dear Customer,

Our new product, DPOS350P, is expected to be completed by April 20 and shipped within a week after that. Each unit now includes a protective case at no extra cost.

However, due to its high value, European customers may face high customs duties and VAT, possibly exceeding $100. To avoid these fees, we plan to ship bulk stock to our European warehouse, but this would delay shipping by about a month.

Please let us know your preference:

Ship as soon as possible and accept the customs fees.

Wait an additional month to avoid customs fees.

Looking forward to your response.

Best regards,
FNIRSI

[radiolistener]

nice graphics and compact size on the advertisement screens, if it really has such fast and smooth graphics it will be interesting despite the fact that it has limited real input bandwidth.

[pcprogrammer]

Mail text from Fnirsi Official

Dear Customer,

Our new product, DPOS350P, is expected to be completed by April 20 and shipped within a week after that. Each unit now includes a protective case at no extra cost.

However, due to its high value, European customers may face high customs duties and VAT, possibly exceeding $100. To avoid these fees, we plan to ship bulk stock to our European warehouse, but this would delay shipping by about a month.

Please let us know your preference:

Ship as soon as possible and accept the customs fees.

Wait an additional month to avoid customs fees.

Looking forward to your response.

Best regards,
FNIRSI

I don't see how they can circumvent the custom duties and VAT by bulk shipping to their European warehouse. On entry into the EU there will still be duties to be payed, and the VAT will be added too eventually.

[Sorama]

exactly my point.
(but better explained  )