Just got my SDS1202X-E 2 weeks ago.
MatCat becomes HappyCat
Bringing this original thread for the Siglent SDS1202X-E oscilloscope back into the picture.
I have updated the title with SDS1202X-E as this is actually the only model in the SDS1000X-E series.
Bringing this original thread for the Siglent SDS1202X-E oscilloscope back into the picture.
I have updated the title with SDS1202X-E as this is actually the only model in the SDS1000X-E series.
China have nearly 1400M peoples and US and EU togther have around 840M.
In China there is SDS1072X-E, SDS1102X-E and SDS1202X-E. (Information is based on the manufacturer's official website in China 16.07.2017)
So, it is still SDS1000X-E serie.
Here in some external countries markets is, at least for now, available only one model: SDS1202X-E
Bringing this original thread for the Siglent SDS1202X-E oscilloscope back into the picture.
I have updated the title with SDS1202X-E as this is actually the only model in the SDS1000X-E series.
China have nearly 1400M peoples and US and EU togther have around 840M.
In China there is SDS1072X-E, SDS1102X-E and SDS1202X-E. (Information is based on the manufacturer's official website in China 16.07.2017)
So, it is still SDS1000X-E serie.
Here in some external countries markets is, at least for now, available only one model: SDS1202X-EI think that page is just their original abandoned marketing plan, along with much higher prices than they finally set. I think the only model in China is the 200MHz one.
Also SDS1000X-C
Also SDS1000X-CThe SDS1000X-C is an older design than the -E.
Look these some ( ding yang classroom ) images in this Taobao sales ad
SDS1202X-E firmware update
Version 5.1.3.13
5.4 Mb
http://www.siglentamerica.com/USA_website_2014/Firmware&Software/SDS1000X-E_5.1.3.13.zip
Changelog
1. Cursor values not correct if probe attenuation was not set to 1X
2. Removed channel input impedance of 50?
3. Added external load setting to FFT menu. If using an external load, amplitudes can be shown in dBm
4. Repaired intermittent lock up after enabling decoding function
5. Optimized translation for German and English menus and pop messages
6. Removed Option label from UI
7. Corrected cursor measurements for active Zoom with FFT
8. Added telnet(port 5024) and open socket(port 5025) for LAN communication
9. Fixed blank zoom bug. With both channels at 2 ms/div, 7 Mpts, and a zoom of 500 ns/div, the zoom window would blank.
10. Fixed decode threshold levels for 10X probe attenuation selection.
11. Fixed average mode. After pressing [Run/Stop] to halt acquisition, the display changed to the last waveform, rather than maintaining the averaged waveform
12. Remain the final message for firmware update until rebooted
13. Fixed the issue with Chinese language setting after self- calibration.
14. Fixed the CAN source bug. If the source selected was CANH or CANL, decode would not work correctly.
15. Decreased waveform jitter with active measurements or math with horizontal delay out of the screen.
16. Added progress information while saving CSV files.
17. Fixed the Cycle RMS measurement does not update when the input signal changes
18. Keep “Print” picture type in accordance with the type selected from “Save/Recall”
19. Fixed user file renaming of a previously saved file.
20. Enabled decoding for time bases above 20ms/div.
21. Disable menu if cursors, measurement and math is disabled
22. Finished updates to support EasyScopeX and Labview driver.
I think that page is just their original abandoned marketing plan, along with much higher prices than they finally set. I think the only model in China is the 200MHz one.
I think that page is just their original abandoned marketing plan, along with much higher prices than they finally set. I think the only model in China is the 200MHz one.I think it makes a lot of sense and it's also good news.
It is quite crazy to offer many optional features for an instrument aimed at hobbyists. The purchase process is not the same
as it is at a company. Releasing a single model with all the extensions enabled makes everything much simpler. Yes, developing
decoding software costs money, but they will recover the costs if they just happen to sell tons of units.
And it's good news because competition is getting fierce and I imagine that Rigol will follow suite. After all, they are virtually
selling an "all you can eat" model with the easy to hack DS1000Z. And I guess that they have reviewed the sales figures and
realized that, options or not, the thing sells pretty well thanks in part to the hackability factor.
I imagine (maybe it's wishful thinking) that this move from Siglent will compel the competition to sell at least a model or
two simply priced oscilloscopes mostly aimed at amateur usage.
By the way, I own a DS1074Z and I have purchased a SDS1202X-E mostly out of curiosity. I think they have done a pretty good
job. The firmware and user interfaces in both would certainly enjoy some maturing, but who could dream of getting this level of
performance at a comparable price 10 years ago?
Has anybody measured the USB and Ethernet (VXI-11) transfer speeds of this scope? I'm fiddling with some software control of lower cost oscilloscopes, and have been disappointed in the transfer speeds on my Rigol DS2000A series scope. Even though the DS2000A has a 100 mbps ethernet interface, real transfer rates are only 5% of the wire speed (screen dump) and even worse for waveform capture (about 200KB/sec). The USB transfer speeds are a little bit better, like screen dumps get up to a little over a megabyte/sec, which is still pretty slow for a wire than can move 35-40 MBytes/sec. I have my own VXI-11 and USBTMC protocol code, and have played with a variety of blocks sizes, without much improvement.
I'l like to see a scope with transfer speeds a significant fraction of the wire speed. Actually, I'd like to see a knobless low cost scope (the analog front end and the digitizer in a small box) with a USB 3.1 (10 gbps now) or USB-C Thunderbolt 3 interface (40 gbps), and good software.
SDS1202X-E firmware update
Version 5.1.3.13
5.4 Mb
http://www.siglentamerica.com/USA_website_2014/Firmware&Software/SDS1000X-E_5.1.3.13.zip
ChangelogAnd
23. Optimized channel self-calibration
Every single people can understand that company who make A can stop (enough easy) hackability just if they want do it... but this they do not want do so that buyers... they feel they win something and also it is not so boring as this equipment what do not give this hack hobby for keep fun and discussions continuing.. is this possible, is that possible do this FW version work for hack, do I need downgrade and who have tried this and that and I have done this and that, just for fun as what ever hobby.
This is just carefully designed marketing trick after hit this marketing trick accidentally in history and find how well it works for boom sales up.
Also there need do fake cases what looks like they try prevent hack.... oh well, who is so simple that believe this. If they want stop hack is is fewline of code and it ends. (of course difficult hacks perhaps still possible but this don not need care... no one do it exept in dreams)
Now all company can do same. Now competite who is more hackable... perhaps need rise hackable options prices so that hackers feel more win. Who is winner, manufacturer or hacker. I believe in final line manufacturer win money but hacker win feel that he have win - andthia last one is important.
There is another subtle advantage for the company that makes unofficially hackable stuff - it can save money on warranty as it voids whenever one does the hack.
Now, something curious about my unit. Upon power up there is some drift in the vertical amplifiers, especially for the second channel.
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After an hour powered up it gets much better (note, I have the habit of powering up equipment for an hour before doing a self calibration or any meaningful measure).
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At least it's quite zippy not a snail, the Rigols are insufferable and (it seems) do that too
I just made a video showing Dave dicking around with the vertical controls on some 'scopes. The Rigol doesn't look slower than the Siglent to me.
The Instek, OTOH... wow!
At least it's quite zippy not a snail, the Rigols are insufferable and (it seems) do that too
Funny you should mention that.
I just made a video showing Dave dicking around with the vertical controls on some 'scopes. The Rigol doesn't look slower than the Siglent to me.
The Instek, OTOH... wow!
Video here: https://streamable.com/wd38s