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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #225 on: December 07, 2024, 01:01:12 pm »
This Topic https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-spd4306x-quality/ is temping me to dissamble my PSU to check ...
If I get bored during Christmas vacation I will do.

It could also be interesting to compare the unpopulated slots with The Defpom's SPD4306X
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #226 on: February 16, 2025, 08:28:39 pm »
I have an SPD4121X, software version 4.1.2.8

I started doing some scripting with this device and have noticed that after powering down for the night, the DHCP setting is not retained the next day.  It goes back to a blank static address.  Power down for 20 minutes still retains the DHCP setting.  Also, other settings seem unaffected, ie, all the channel settings remain.
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #227 on: February 16, 2025, 08:42:32 pm »
I have an SPD4121X, software version 4.1.2.8

I started doing some scripting with this device and have noticed that after powering down for the night, the DHCP setting is not retained the next day.  It goes back to a blank static address.  Power down for 20 minutes still retains the DHCP setting.  Also, other settings seem unaffected, ie, all the channel settings remain.
When IP is correct set DHCP to OFF.
Try the latest FW V4.1.2.8R1
https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Power_Supply/SPD4000X_4.1.2.8R1_EN.zip

More changes are coming.....we are testing a new beta FW.......
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #228 on: February 16, 2025, 09:51:34 pm »
I have an SPD4121X, software version 4.1.2.8

I started doing some scripting with this device and have noticed that after powering down for the night, the DHCP setting is not retained the next day.  It goes back to a blank static address.  Power down for 20 minutes still retains the DHCP setting.  Also, other settings seem unaffected, ie, all the channel settings remain.
When IP is correct set DHCP to OFF.
Try the latest FW V4.1.2.8R1
https://int.siglent.com/upload_file/zip/firmware/Power_Supply/SPD4000X_4.1.2.8R1_EN.zip

More changes are coming.....we are testing a new beta FW.......

I upgraded the firmware, we'll see what happens when I turn it on tomorrow.
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #229 on: February 16, 2025, 10:02:45 pm »
What Tautech said, make sure DHCP is turned off if manually setting IP LAN configuration, otherwise the DHCP will replace it on next power up.

I have recorded some video on the latest firmware (which is not yet public), I hope to publish it next week to show the improvements that have been made.
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #230 on: February 16, 2025, 10:05:34 pm »
What Tautech said, make sure DHCP is turned off if manually setting IP LAN configuration, otherwise the DHCP will replace it on next power up.

I have recorded some video on the latest firmware (which is not yet public), I hope to publish it next week to show the improvements that have been made.

Actually I want DHCP, not static.  I reserve the address in my router.  The problem is when the machine is off overnight it reverts back to no DHCP on the next power up. 
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #231 on: February 16, 2025, 10:38:03 pm »
What Tautech said, make sure DHCP is turned off if manually setting IP LAN configuration, otherwise the DHCP will replace it on next power up.

I have recorded some video on the latest firmware (which is not yet public), I hope to publish it next week to show the improvements that have been made.

Actually I want DHCP, not static.  I reserve the address in my router. The problem is when the machine is off overnight it reverts back to no DHCP on the next power up.
Which is a static address.
When that address is saved and DHCP is set to OFF your router and instrument should use it by default.
Is that not happening ?
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #232 on: February 16, 2025, 10:55:35 pm »
What Tautech said, make sure DHCP is turned off if manually setting IP LAN configuration, otherwise the DHCP will replace it on next power up.

I have recorded some video on the latest firmware (which is not yet public), I hope to publish it next week to show the improvements that have been made.

Actually I want DHCP, not static.  I reserve the address in my router. The problem is when the machine is off overnight it reverts back to no DHCP on the next power up.
Which is a static address.
When that address is saved and DHCP is set to OFF your router and instrument should use it by default.
Is that not happening ?

A reserved DHCP address is not a static address.  DHCP negotiation still happens, the DHCP server however has an address reserved for that mac address so when the DHCP request happens the server hands the device the reserved address. 

What is happening, I set the LAN config on the unit to use DHCP.  Great, it pulls an address like it should, DHCP option is on.  I can power off the unit for 5 to 10 minutes and the DHCP option is still selected. Great!   However, after I power up the unit from being turned off overnight, of after a couple of days, the DHCP option is turned off.  I have to go into the settings and select the option again.
 
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #233 on: February 17, 2025, 08:31:26 pm »
What Tautech said, make sure DHCP is turned off if manually setting IP LAN configuration, otherwise the DHCP will replace it on next power up.

I have recorded some video on the latest firmware (which is not yet public), I hope to publish it next week to show the improvements that have been made.

Actually I want DHCP, not static.  I reserve the address in my router. The problem is when the machine is off overnight it reverts back to no DHCP on the next power up.
Which is a static address.
When that address is saved and DHCP is set to OFF your router and instrument should use it by default.
Is that not happening ?

A reserved DHCP address is not a static address.  DHCP negotiation still happens, the DHCP server however has an address reserved for that mac address so when the DHCP request happens the server hands the device the reserved address. 

What is happening, I set the LAN config on the unit to use DHCP.  Great, it pulls an address like it should, DHCP option is on.  I can power off the unit for 5 to 10 minutes and the DHCP option is still selected. Great!   However, after I power up the unit from being turned off overnight, of after a couple of days, the DHCP option is turned off.  I have to go into the settings and select the option again.

I also have an SPD4121X currently running firmware version 4.1.2.8R1.
Cannot reproduce, and I have no memories of any issue even with 4.1.2.8.

I regurarly cut-off any power to the bench sometimes for days and SPD4121X is systematically get the (reserved MAC address based) IP address and dns server.
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #234 on: February 17, 2025, 08:57:45 pm »
No issues on startup today, so that is something. 
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #235 on: February 21, 2025, 05:31:09 pm »
New short but very interesting video about new beta firmware by TheDefpom



https://youtu.be/ubGgsEVi17k?si=pkNxByZjeZJ6dX3J
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #236 on: April 02, 2025, 02:22:19 pm »
Brief note to update about my SPD4323X which had the glitch/spike upon mains power off at channels 2 & 3.  Contacting the UK supplier (Telonic Instruments) resulted in my unit being repaired by Siglent in Germany.  The repair appears successful (a “hardware base board” has been replaced).

Thank you to all on here who tried to diagnose this with me, but special thanks and praise must go to the wonderful service and support provided by Telonic Instruments here in the UK who really have been very helpful with this 👏, and Siglent for the repair.

Looking forward to the firmware update mentioned by Defpom.
 
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #237 on: June 21, 2025, 12:33:09 am »
I purchased a Siglent SPD4323X a while back but hadn't yet the chance to play with it. I did today, and here are some observations.

HARDWARE

- Before purchasing it I had noticed the discrepancy regarding its dimensions in the Quick Start Guide and the Datasheet. Turns out the (included) Quick Start Guide is wrong, and the dimensions for all three models of the SPD4000X is the same.
- I didn't want to void the warranty, so I only peeked inside through the vents. The internal layout seems to be the same as the SPD4306X of defpom's video, including the second fan on top of the toroid.
- It's a shame Siglent didn't add indicator lights directly above the outputs.
- I would have preferred the color scheme of the SPD3000X. I understand it's the trend, but the light color scheme is way better for readability.
- When turning the voltages up using the knob, the relays for channels 2 & 3 switch at 8/16/24 V. When turning down they switch at 7/14/22 V. No relay switching for channels 1 & 4.
- With all channels off, I measure 0V for CH1 & CH4, and -14mV for CH2/CH3.



FIRMWARE

- The firmware is still at V4.1.2.8R1. It has been 4 months since defpom demonstrated V4.1.2.8R2T1, but V4.1.2.8R2 has still not been released. So all the bugs he reported still exist in the current models.
- The UI is not well thought out, is inconsistent and generally makes it feel like an unfinished product. It needs more work.
- It should really have a column mode for displaying the 4 channels side-by-side. The layout doesn't match the hardware, which is made worse because of the lack of indicator lights above the channels. At least make it an option, so the marketing material doesn't have to be updated.
- In series/parallel mode there is no need to display CH3 at all, especially if we have a column mode. Displaying 3 columns in those modes would also be a perfect indicator that it is not operating in independent mode. I will always use it in series mode.
- It would also be nice to have power usage displayed in a small font for each channel.
- When a menu button has no function, why display a blank virtual button? On my Siglent SDS1104X-U those placeholders are not displayed in that case, which is how it should be.
- The font size for these virtual buttons is inconsistent. Pick one size and adjust the label naming accordingly.
- I would like to have a setting so I can enter and display current in mA instead of A.
- "List coupling" should be in List settings, and then can be named "Coupling".
- Switching from independent operation mode to parallel/series and back to independent overwrites the setting for CH3 with values for CH2. It should restore that.
- Save/recall: instead of displaying "Universal fileN" eight times, it would be preferable to display them as a numbered list of 8 rows on the left hand side (just numbers, no name), and on the right hand side of the screen a preview of the selected file setting, like that of the Source view.
- Save/recall: Pressing ENTER should recall the selected list.
- Save/recall: Does not save or restore the independent/series/parallel operation mode.
- Save/recall: after recall, it should switch to the Home view.
- In Source Settings view, the voltages on the right always have the "on" colors. They should be gray when the corresponding channel is off, just like in the Home view.
- The Menu view is inconsistent with the others. Why not just two-level virtual buttons, instead of having to select the column and then use the arrow keys + ENTER to select an item. With two-level virtual buttons it would  require just two key presses (worst case scenario 2 key presses vs current 4 key presses).
- Knob function changes depending on the view. It is used to change values, but in the Menu view it is suddenly used for selecting a submenu. On the other hand, in Save/recall it cannot be used for selection. This is inconsistent.
- There's no screensaver. There's no power indicator light.
- Accessing the web interface using Safari for the current macOS and iPadOS versions (Safari 18) leads to blank information (and errors in the Safari console). It displays better on older macOS versions (e.g. Safari 16), but it also has issues for some views. On Chrome it works well. The web interface needs to be reworked, and an SCPI view added. The web interface has the lowest priority for me (when operating remotely, I will use SCPI).
- Setting/getting voltage/current/output state of all 4 channels works with SCPI over USB, albeit a bit slow. Over LAN it works works too, with hostname SPD4323X.local.
 
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #238 on: June 21, 2025, 05:37:34 am »
My SPD4323X doesn't have a TUV marking which is strange because Defpom's unit does. The layout of the markings on the back of my unit are also different. When looking on the TUV website I can see that the unit is listed as being tested. I wonder why my unit doesn't have the TUV marking?
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #239 on: June 21, 2025, 02:17:06 pm »
My SPD4323X has the same back as Defpom's unit, with the same layout and TUV marking. The picture of the back on Siglent's website has a 3rd variant, with the markings at the bottom (without TUV). Odd.
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #240 on: June 21, 2025, 09:17:15 pm »
Weird. I’ll get in contact with them to ask why.
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #241 on: June 22, 2025, 06:24:00 pm »
I purchased a Siglent SPD4323X a while back but hadn't yet the chance to play with it. I did today, and here are some observations.

HARDWARE

- Before purchasing it I had noticed the discrepancy regarding its dimensions in the Quick Start Guide and the Datasheet. Turns out the (included) Quick Start Guide is wrong, and the dimensions for all three models of the SPD4000X is the same.
- I didn't want to void the warranty, so I only peeked inside through the vents. The internal layout seems to be the same as the SPD4306X of defpom's video, including the second fan on top of the toroid.
- It's a shame Siglent didn't add indicator lights directly above the outputs.
- I would have preferred the color scheme of the SPD3000X. I understand it's the trend, but the light color scheme is way better for readability.
- When turning the voltages up using the knob, the relays for channels 2 & 3 switch at 8/16/24 V. When turning down they switch at 7/14/22 V. No relay switching for channels 1 & 4.
- With all channels off, I measure 0V for CH1 & CH4, and -14mV for CH2/CH3.



FIRMWARE

- The firmware is still at V4.1.2.8R1. It has been 4 months since defpom demonstrated V4.1.2.8R2T1, but V4.1.2.8R2 has still not been released. So all the bugs he reported still exist in the current models.
- The UI is not well thought out, is inconsistent and generally makes it feel like an unfinished product. It needs more work.
- It should really have a column mode for displaying the 4 channels side-by-side. The layout doesn't match the hardware, which is made worse because of the lack of indicator lights above the channels. At least make it an option, so the marketing material doesn't have to be updated.
- In series/parallel mode there is no need to display CH3 at all, especially if we have a column mode. Displaying 3 columns in those modes would also be a perfect indicator that it is not operating in independent mode. I will always use it in series mode.
- It would also be nice to have power usage displayed in a small font for each channel.
- When a menu button has no function, why display a blank virtual button? On my Siglent SDS1104X-U those placeholders are not displayed in that case, which is how it should be.
- The font size for these virtual buttons is inconsistent. Pick one size and adjust the label naming accordingly.
- I would like to have a setting so I can enter and display current in mA instead of A.
- "List coupling" should be in List settings, and then can be named "Coupling".
- Switching from independent operation mode to parallel/series and back to independent overwrites the setting for CH3 with values for CH2. It should restore that.
- Save/recall: instead of displaying "Universal fileN" eight times, it would be preferable to display them as a numbered list of 8 rows on the left hand side (just numbers, no name), and on the right hand side of the screen a preview of the selected file setting, like that of the Source view.
- Save/recall: Pressing ENTER should recall the selected list.
- Save/recall: Does not save or restore the independent/series/parallel operation mode.
- Save/recall: after recall, it should switch to the Home view.
- In Source Settings view, the voltages on the right always have the "on" colors. They should be gray when the corresponding channel is off, just like in the Home view.
- The Menu view is inconsistent with the others. Why not just two-level virtual buttons, instead of having to select the column and then use the arrow keys + ENTER to select an item. With two-level virtual buttons it would  require just two key presses (worst case scenario 2 key presses vs current 4 key presses).
- Knob function changes depending on the view. It is used to change values, but in the Menu view it is suddenly used for selecting a submenu. On the other hand, in Save/recall it cannot be used for selection. This is inconsistent.
- There's no screensaver. There's no power indicator light.
- Accessing the web interface using Safari for the current macOS and iPadOS versions (Safari 18) leads to blank information (and errors in the Safari console). It displays better on older macOS versions (e.g. Safari 16), but it also has issues for some views. On Chrome it works well. The web interface needs to be reworked, and an SCPI view added. The web interface has the lowest priority for me (when operating remotely, I will use SCPI).
- Setting/getting voltage/current/output state of all 4 channels works with SCPI over USB, albeit a bit slow. Over LAN it works works too, with hostname SPD4323X.local.

A continuation of my post above:

HARDWARE

- When I place the unit on a table and sit in front of it, I can't see half of the display's header because the bezel is blocking it. I can only see the bottom half of the words "Parallel" and "Series".

FIRMWARE

- Save/recall: It shouldn't be in the Menu view because there is a dedicated button. The Home/Operation mode/Lock features are also not listed in the Menu view, so why is Save/recall?
- Save/recall: "Back" returns to the Menu view even if this function is accessed through its dedicated button. It should return to the previous view.
- Save/recall: I set CH2 and CH3 each to 4.5V in independent mode and save it. When I switch to series mode, CH2 changes to the 9V setting, as expected. However, when I recall the saved file while in series mode, CH2 is restored as 4.5V. This is inconsistent.
- Output List: Select "Next Page". There is no "Prev Page", only "Back". It returns to the previous page. The virual button should say "Prev Page". "Back" should always return to the previous view, not page. Instead of "Prev Page"/"Next Page", consider using "<" and ">".
- Wave: Please add vertical V and A scale settings here. Most of the time I will use the PSU for voltages less than 10V and currents less than 1A.
- Defpom noticed the current limiting bug in parallel operation mode. In the firmware update only he received this serious bug was fixed.

I will mainly use the device in series operation mode (dual rail). The firmware fix has not been released, so this  bug still exist for everyone but Defpom.

To demonstrate, I set CH2 and CH3 each to 4.5V and 20mA in independent mode.
- I confirm each channel is indeed current limited to 20mA.
- I now switch to series mode. As a result, CH2 is correctly set to 9V/20mA on the display.
- I turn the channels on. CH2 and CH3 are each correctly at 4.5V.
- I short CH2. Its current is limited to 20mA, which is correct.
- I short CH3. Its current is limited to 120mA, which is incorrect.
- I short CH2+ and CH3-, and the current is limited to 120mA, which is incorrect.
- When set it to 1A, the current is limited to 1.1A.
- When set it to 100mA, the current is limited to 200mA.
- When set it to 1mA, the current is limited to 101mA.

So current limiting in series mode is always 100mA too high. This is true for all voltages above 1V. Current limiting in series mode only works correctly for voltages equal to or less than 1V.

The current limiting behavior is correct only in independent operation mode.

Since I will always use the power supply in series mode, this is a serious bug. It supposedly is fixed in the new firmware, but that firmware never has been released to the public. If anyone from Siglent reads this, please fix the bugs, especially this one, and release the updated firmware.

My hardware version is 0-0-0-1, but this is a firmware issue.
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #242 on: June 22, 2025, 06:48:55 pm »
They'll release the firmware when it's ready. They test the stuff thoroughly to avoid other headaches.
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #243 on: July 17, 2025, 09:44:40 pm »
Defpom fixes his SPD4306X after a usage mistake.  :palm:
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #244 on: July 18, 2025, 08:29:04 pm »
40+min vid

Very useful 40+min vid ...
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #245 on: August 08, 2025, 01:11:25 pm »
Oh no... I have just bricked my SPD4306X trying to upgrade it to FW 4.1.2.8R1...
Anyone else done this yet?

  • Got the FW onto a 16GB FAT32 drive which actually showed-up in the menu (32GB USB didn't work)
  • Followed the simple instructions in the upgrade PDF (Press Menu > System ... select the .ADS ... hit Enter etc.)
  • Initially some kind of loading firmware screen & progress bar was progressing
  • Went downstairs to make a cup of tea while waiting... When I came back the screen & buttons are blank... Device has not restarted as it says in the PDF
  • Waited 5mins longer before giving up and powering down... Now it just powers on like the above, blank screen, fan is running & LAN LED is on orange so something is alive...

Does anyone have any suggestions to debug or reflash some other way??

I have sent an email to Siglent support but thought EEV might help more!  :-//
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #246 on: August 08, 2025, 05:42:00 pm »
Oh no... I have just bricked my SPD4306X trying to upgrade it to FW 4.1.2.8R1...
Anyone else done this yet?

  • Got the FW onto a 16GB FAT32 drive which actually showed-up in the menu (32GB USB didn't work)
  • Followed the simple instructions in the upgrade PDF (Press Menu > System ... select the .ADS ... hit Enter etc.)
  • Initially some kind of loading firmware screen & progress bar was progressing
  • Went downstairs to make a cup of tea while waiting... When I came back the screen & buttons are blank... Device has not restarted as it says in the PDF
  • Waited 5mins longer before giving up and powering down... Now it just powers on like the above, blank screen, fan is running & LAN LED is on orange so something is alive...

Does anyone have any suggestions to debug or reflash some other way??

I have sent an email to Siglent support but thought EEV might help more!  :-//

Absolutely your first and most important step was to contact support.
I personally don't know of any known problems with that PSU in regards to that FW update.
It is a bummer it is a weekend, so you will have to wait until Monday before there is a chance someone might answer.
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #247 on: August 11, 2025, 03:19:31 pm »
UPDATE - IT'S FIXED  ;D

So it was incredibly easy to fix and Siglent EU support (Michael Rößle) was fast.

I'll paste the solution here as it seems 100% doable for anyone with the same problem in the future:

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1. Clear all other files from the 16GB FAT32-formatted USB drive, leaving only the ADS file required for the upgrade.

2. Insert the USB drive into the SPD4306X.

3. On the front panel, while holding down the rotary knob, press the power button. The machine will boot and automatically enter Guided Procedure Mode.

4. Wait for the machine to automatically recognize the recovery file on the USB drive and automatically upgrade.

Note that you really have to keep the rotary knob pressed until the % installation begins to increase. I let go of it early the first time and it failed with a key-press error.

Now back to work - no more procrastination excuses now...
 
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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #248 on: December 12, 2025, 11:04:29 pm »
They'll release the firmware when it's ready. They test the stuff thoroughly to avoid other headaches.

Extremely thorough...  ;D
 

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Re: New Siglent SPD4000X series power supply
« Reply #249 on: December 12, 2025, 11:38:49 pm »
I am surprised that this firmware still hasn't been released yet, Rob perhaps you can give them a poke, with a pointy stick.
Cheers Scott

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