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121GW App Testing
« on: June 08, 2018, 05:21:16 am »
Seeking testers for the iphone application sign up here:
https://goo.gl/forms/rkZiS3Jh3HJpmblC3

Please use your apple app store email address as I suspect it will make things easier.
Please take screen shots, even if there isn't a problem we don't have enough screen sizes in the office to submit to the App store.

We need screen shots specifically from an iPad and 5.5" iphones, we currently don't have any of these devices.

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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2018, 12:19:25 am »
@Seppy,

backer 1443

Well, I have an iPad and a 4.7" iPhone, and have written a few apps including the core and plotting part of an i121GW app.  Unfortunately, I don't have a meter to test with.  Will the screen shots you want require a connection?

I'd like to try it anyway.
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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 02:11:20 am »
Seeking testers for the iphone application sign up here:
https://goo.gl/forms/rkZiS3Jh3HJpmblC3

Please use your apple app store email address as I suspect it will make things easier.
Please take screen shots, even if there isn't a problem we don't have enough screen sizes in the office to submit to the App store.

We need screen shots specifically from an iPad and 5.5" iphones, we currently don't have any of these devices.

I installed the app and did a very quick test logging temperature for a few minutes and then mailed the data to myself. It looks good so far. I would like to have the start Date and Time set in the file header. Maybe there is an option for that, I have not done any exploration...
 

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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2018, 04:15:43 am »
Seeking testers for the iphone application sign up here:
https://goo.gl/forms/rkZiS3Jh3HJpmblC3

Please use your apple app store email address as I suspect it will make things easier.
Please take screen shots, even if there isn't a problem we don't have enough screen sizes in the office to submit to the App store.

We need screen shots specifically from an iPad and 5.5" iphones, we currently don't have any of these devices.

I installed the app and did a very quick test logging temperature for a few minutes and then mailed the data to myself. It looks good so far. I would like to have the start Date and Time set in the file header. Maybe there is an option for that, I have not done any exploration...

There isn't currently an option for that, I'll add it in, I don't want to do a full time stamp for each item though as it makes the data less importable.
I can however change the default filename to the following, how does that sound (it would also be the default email title):
"Log DD-MM-YY, HH-MM-ss.csv"

Edit: for sortablility the following format was selected, what do people think?
"YYMMDD, HHMMss Log.csv"

P.S. Post screenshots if possible we really need them for the App store submission.
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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2018, 04:22:39 am »
@Seppy,

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Well, I have an iPad and a 4.7" iPhone, and have written a few apps including the core and plotting part of an i121GW app.  Unfortunately, I don't have a meter to test with.  Will the screen shots you want require a connection?

I'd like to try it anyway.

Yes the screen shots would require a connection as the connecting screen is pretty boring.
Hopefully your unit arrives soon.
 

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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2018, 04:32:44 am »
Edit: for sortablility the following format was selected, what do people think?
"YYMMDD, HHMMss Log.csv"

This ^ ^ ^ ^    :-+
 

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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2018, 05:06:00 am »
Edit: for sortablility the following format was selected, what do people think?
"YYMMDD, HHMMss Log.csv"
Yes, but I'd suggest without the comma. Just "YYMMDD HHMMSS Log.csv" would be fine.

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P.S. Post screenshots if possible we really need them for the App store submission.
I'll try to post some, but I only got the notification today. It might take me a day or two to try it out since it's the working week.
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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2018, 05:20:02 am »
I installed the app and did a very quick test logging temperature for a few minutes and then mailed the data to myself. It looks good so far. I would like to have the start Date and Time set in the file header. Maybe there is an option for that, I have not done any exploration...

I’m confused. You are able to log or retrieve logged data with the App?

I’ve installed it on my iPad mini. I.m getting a nice mirror of the meters display but no ability to log or retrieve logged data that I can tell. The settings and maths buttons appear essentially non-functional.
 

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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2018, 05:39:53 am »
OK, one problem is it is insisting on iOS 11.3 or later. That's a problem for me. My iPad is running iOS 10 and I won't upgrade it since IOS 11 took away functionality that I use. I will give it a try on my phone.
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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2018, 05:43:16 am »
I installed the app and did a very quick test logging temperature for a few minutes and then mailed the data to myself. It looks good so far. I would like to have the start Date and Time set in the file header. Maybe there is an option for that, I have not done any exploration...

I’m confused. You are able to log or retrieve logged data with the App?

I’ve installed it on my iPad mini. I.m getting a nice mirror of the meters display but no ability to log or retrieve logged data that I can tell. The settings and maths buttons appear essentially non-functional.

Just click save under the graph.
Settings is where you add devices.
Maths is for if you owned multiple devices, you can have two plots multiply etc.

Edit : Screenshots :)
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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2018, 05:56:00 am »
Just click save under the graph.

Thanks, but there is no save botton under the graph on my screen. There is <settings>,  <maths> and [ 0 ] only.     This is iOS 11.4 on an iPad mini 4.

Also X and Y axis values non sensible. See attached. (Meter on DC volts with open leads).

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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2018, 06:06:38 am »
Just click save under the graph.

Thanks, but there is no save botton under the graph on my screen. There is <settings>,  <maths> and [ 0 ] only.     This is iOS 11.4 on an iPad mini 4.

Also X and Y axis values non sensible. See attached. (Meter on DC volts with open leads).

Ah right, I need to post my tutorial video, use it in portrait ,landscape is really just for fullscreen.
I might get it to show save regardless of fullscreen or not but this would take away some screen space.

Open circuit voltages will tend to be all over the place, just the result of a quite high impedance input.
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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2018, 06:10:37 am »
Screenshot:

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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2018, 06:12:25 am »
Screenshot:



Do you happen to have the unscaled version? If it won't upload, could you email it here eev.davidledger@gmail.com
PS. I might fork the beta testing to another thread soon, i'll move the posts.
 

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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2018, 06:18:54 am »
Do you happen to have the unscaled version? If it won't upload, could you email it here eev.davidledger@gmail.com
PS. I might fork the beta testing to another thread soon, i'll move the posts.

This is the raw screen grab from the phone:
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Re: Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2018, 06:20:06 am »
Ah right, I need to post my tutorial video, use it in portrait ,landscape is really just for fullscreen.
Doh, OK  of course.

So in portrait, the save and other buttons are there. But, when I push save it kicks me out of the app (whether logging or not).

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Open circuit voltages will tend to be all over the place, just the result of a quite high impedance input.

Yeah, i get that but axis values Not corresponding  - maybe a function of range.?

Also FWIW, i use my iPad mini almost exclusively in landscape mode. Having all buttons available would be nice.

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121GW App Testing
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2018, 06:27:54 am »
When I hit Save, here's what a log looks like.

One thing, it would be nice to have a "pause" button on the screen to stop the graph scrolling while you look at it.

Even better if it keeps collecting data in the background like a "lap" button on a stopwatch, so that when you unfreeze it refreshes the graph with the extra data collected.

Another thing, it would be nice if the collection interval was a round number of seconds per sample.

(Also, I'm not sure that many digits of time resolution are meaningful.)

Code: [Select]
Time (s), Voltage DC (V)
0.05082, 0.0005
0.111293, 0.0006
0.831361, 0.0006
1.310702, 0.0006
1.820419, 0.0006
2.331409, 0.0006
2.811417, 0.0006
3.321496, 0.0006
3.831209, 0.0006
4.311489, 0.0006
4.821054, 0.0006
5.331481, 0.0006
5.811364, 0.0006
6.354458, 0.0006
6.831573, 0.0006
7.341693, 0.0006
7.851459, 0.0006
8.362003, 0.0006
8.84111, 0.0006
9.351552, 0.0006
9.831087, 0.0006
10.34146, 0.0006
10.85149, 0.0006
11.33111, 0.0006
11.84133, 0.0006
12.35151, 0.0006
12.83109, 0.0006
13.34188, 0.0006
13.85141, 0.0005
14.33115, 0.0005
14.84186, 0.0006
15.35119, 0.0006
15.83165, 0.0006
16.34118, 0.0006
16.85153, 0.0006
17.33162, 0.0006
17.84163, 0.0006
18.32146, 0.5945
18.83173, 1.1663
19.34166, 1.1667
19.82151, 1.1668
20.33185, 1.1669
20.84128, 1.1669
21.32154, 1.167
21.83112, 1.1669
22.3415, 1.1669
23.39187, 1.7364
23.84181, 1.9943
24.35119, 2.2268
24.86161, 2.472
25.37127, 2.5748
26.36175, 2.8239
26.87211, 3.186
27.8619, 3.4225
28.37129, 3.616
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30.35259, 3.6201
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32.36143, 2.8243
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34.34166, 1.959
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35.84135, 1.538
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37.34202, 1.023
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38.84189, 0.4542
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40.88191, 0.8073
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42.89182, 1.306
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61.40224, 1.1442
61.91229, 1.2656
62.39143, 1.2689
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Re: 121GW App Testing
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2018, 06:46:18 am »
Ok just checked on my iPhone 5s. Logging “save” button works fine there. But still no joy on the iPad mini.
 

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Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2018, 06:51:48 am »
Could you take a screenshot of these two issues, do you
Ah right, I need to post my tutorial video, use it in portrait ,landscape is really just for fullscreen.
Doh, OK  of course.

So in portrait, the save and other buttons are there. But, when I push save it kicks me out of the app (whether logging or not).

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Open circuit voltages will tend to be all over the place, just the result of a quite high impedance input.

Yeah, i get that but axis values Not corresponding  - maybe a function of range.?

Also FWIW, i use my iPad mini almost exclusively in landscape mode. Having all buttons available would be nice.



Can you take a screenshot that shows your full portrait screen with one of the DC values that do not correspond, will help in isolating any issue.
I'll try get my hands on an iPad Mini, I haven't got one to test with so in the mean time what are settings that resulted in that error, does it happen every time?
 

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Re: 121GW App Testing
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2018, 07:18:27 am »
I just got a notification about a post in the discussion forum and ended up here. I am an iOS user. iphone 6, ipad mini, iphone 4. Looking forward to an iOS app!
 

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Re: EEVBlog 121GW Discussion thread
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2018, 07:20:59 am »
Could you take a screenshot of these two issues, do you
Ah right, I need to post my tutorial video, use it in portrait ,landscape is really just for fullscreen.
Doh, OK  of course.

So in portrait, the save and other buttons are there. But, when I push save it kicks me out of the app (whether logging or not).

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Open circuit voltages will tend to be all over the place, just the result of a quite high impedance input.

Yeah, i get that but axis values Not corresponding  - maybe a function of range.?

Also FWIW, i use my iPad mini almost exclusively in landscape mode. Having all buttons available would be nice.



Can you take a screenshot that shows your full portrait screen with one of the DC values that do not correspond, will help in isolating any issue.
I'll try get my hands on an iPad Mini, I haven't got one to test with so in the mean time what are settings that resulted in that error, does it happen every time?

Will do tomorrow. Late here now. Meter put away and me too. Thanks for your work on this.
 

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Re: 121GW App Testing
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2018, 08:08:39 am »
I just got a notification about a post in the discussion forum and ended up here. I am an iOS user. iphone 6, ipad mini, iphone 4. Looking forward to an iOS app!

You can use the app now if you like, just fill in the form at the top of the page and become a beta tester :)
 

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Re: 121GW App Testing
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2018, 08:41:50 am »
Will run some tests with my iPhone 6 tomorrow once I put my meter back together (again).

My iPad mini is the original model, so it can't run iOS 11 unfortunately.  I considered upgrading, but I just don't use it enough (or do enough iOS app dev) to justify buying a new model.  I may have to eventually now that Apple is forcing all new apps to be built for iOS 11.
 

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Re: 121GW App Testing
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2018, 05:21:34 pm »
Just got the app loaded and here are a number of screenshots from running temperature monitoring and setting up and running the maths function on the temperature using the one device for both inputs, showing selecting the settings and the outcome.  From an iphone 7 iOS 11.4.  If there are specific use cases you want captured let me know. 

I accumulated the screen shots in dropbox which can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h55xuwofz8025z9/AADyFKSlYDJ_HJe0xtVhYkqNa?dl=0.

Everything seemed to be working with the exception of the vertical units which are not degrees.

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Re: 121GW App Testing
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2018, 08:30:06 pm »
My iPad mini is the original model, so it can't run iOS 11 unfortunately.  I considered upgrading, but I just don't use it enough (or do enough iOS app dev) to justify buying a new model.  I may have to eventually now that Apple is forcing all new apps to be built for iOS 11.

I just read the App Store submission guidelines, and while it says apps must be able to run on the currently shipping OS it doesn't say they can't run on older versions of the OS.

It would be very helpful for people with older devices or people who don't want to be on the bleeding edge of OS releases if the app could run on iOS 10 or earlier.

Are there any specific features of iOS 11 that it relies on? This is the first App I have tried that insists on iOS 11.3 as the minimum supported version.
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