A very expensive logic analyzer, with limited memory and horrible controls (compared to something PC based).Siglent with option is not separate LA + separate scope, it is MSO. If you know diffrerence.
How about Rigol MSO. Is it expensive and horrible with controls and memory. Or do you use double standards. And if you look Rigol MSO it share Analog channels memory with digital channels. Even more horrible than Siglent.
If you can use cheap 10$ LA with Rigol Ds1kZ why also Siglent user can not do same, if saeparate LA with scope is enough. In this case Siglent owner can buy separate cheap LA just as Riglol owner. But if he then think he want MSO... now this Rigol owner buy Rigol MSO scope... Siglent user only buy this option. If we compare Siglent MSO then somehow fair is compare it with Rigol MSO. Consumer price in Germany for Rigol MSO1074Z is around 930 euro and MSO1104Z 950 euro.
Siglent MSOSDS1104X-E price is 966 euro
Btw, if in Rigol want use 16 digital channels only 2 analog channels can use. Siglent can do simultaneusly all 4 analog channels and all 16 digital channels.
Other things just as with DS1000Z vs SDS1004X-E
Which one is expensive?
the main difference IMHO is that you can buy later a logic analyzer module for the siglentA very expensive logic analyzer, with limited memory and horrible controls (compared to something PC based).
You are forgetting that a logic analyser can't show digital signals in realtime. This the added value of having digital channels on an oscilloscope. An MSO is not a logic analyser and vice versa. Don't make the mistake thinking they are equal.
My guess is that stand-alone oscilloscopes will sooner than later go the way of the dodo. The grudging admiration that keeps popping up for the does-everything-but-not-everything-particularly-well Analog Discovery units suggests to me that this sort of PC integration is where the technology is really headed.
PS: I never mentioned Rigol, I'm not sure why you brought it up.
My guess is that stand-alone oscilloscopes will sooner than later go the way of the dodo. The grudging admiration that keeps popping up for the does-everything-but-not-everything-particularly-well Analog Discovery units suggests to me that this sort of PC integration is where the technology is really headed.If you want to build a PC oscilloscope then you end up doing a lot of signal processing in the hardware anyway because you can't get the data fast enough into the PC and have it processed. Using an FPGA and a box with buttons is just easier. Besides that you don't have to deal with all kinds of OS specific problems and different OSses (for starters Linux and Windows but Mac is also necessary).
One problem I would have with any PC-based scope is that I don't own a laptop or tablet PC (or Mac), so I would be limited to doing all my test/troubleshooting work where my PC is.
Next thing I wanted to mention is aliasing. I wasn't exactly sure what you guys were talking about there. I am familiar with aliasing with images on the screen; especially with games, but not so much with the scope. So I Googled, and found a good YouTube vid on the subject. It was explained very well, and I can understand how a newbie in the field could misinterpret what he is seeing on the scope due to aliasing, but once one has enough experience to understand these things, I don't really see it as a problem.
This is the best explanation I've ever seen:
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Why doesn't TEquipment sell the SDS1104X-E? They have the 1102X, and 1102B (whatever the difference is).
I was hoping I could buy the 1104X-E from them, since I have read that they offer a discount to members of this forum...
Many distributors meanwhile offer a 30 days no-questions-asked return policy.
Many distributors meanwhile offer a 30 days no-questions-asked return policy.
So what they actually do is recycling the A stock scope to the next dude who thinks he gets a NEW
unboxed from the factory. If i buy a new unit it has to be new not B stock else it should be sold as B stock, C stock etc
Many distributors meanwhile offer a 30 days no-questions-asked return policy.
So what they actually do is recycling the A stock scope to the next dude who thinks he gets a NEW
unboxed from the factory. If i buy a new unit it has to be new not B stock else it should be sold as B stock, C stock etc
Many distributors meanwhile offer a 30 days no-questions-asked return policy.
So what they actually do is recycling the A stock scope to the next dude who thinks he gets a NEW
unboxed from the factory. If i buy a new unit it has to be new not B stock else it should be sold as B stock, C stock etc
And yet you don't think twice about RMAing it if you don't like it.
That's a double standard.
You want the 30-day no-questions-asked return policy? You should accept returned goods (unless there's something obviously wrong with them, but the dealer should check that).
No i dont want 30 day no-questions-asked return policy, why even distributor include that shit.
No i dont want 30 day no-questions-asked return policy, why even distributor include that shit.
Well, there's the problem. They don't offer the choice.
Many distributors meanwhile offer a 30 days no-questions-asked return policy.
So what they actually do is recycling the A stock scope to the next dude who thinks he gets a NEW
unboxed from the factory. If i buy a new unit it has to be new not B stock else it should be sold as B stock, C stock etc
And yet you don't think twice about RMAing it if you don't like it.
That's a double standard.
You want the 30-day no-questions-asked return policy? You should accept returned goods (unless there's something obviously wrong with them, but the dealer should check that).
... The cost of selling returned merchandise as B stock is just part of the cost of doing business.