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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114300 on: February 22, 2022, 11:21:38 pm »
People who have to survive in the northern most reaches of the planet wear the fur of the species native to those regions, nothing that we've come up with comes even close to the effectiveness of those 'primitive' solutions.

The problem with looking there for solutions is that I suspect that wearing seal fur knickers for Olympic competition is likely to be regarded as somewhat politically incorrect. Also puts a new spin on the phrase "All fur coat and no knickers"...
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« Reply #114301 on: February 23, 2022, 12:28:16 am »
Also puts a new spin on the phrase "All fur coat and no knickers"...

I've not heard that saying before.

The closest equivalent that comes to mind is "Full of hot air" ... or the simple "Bullshit".
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114302 on: February 23, 2022, 12:37:55 am »
Today's TE arrival, something I've been searching for many many years to find, the hp 1784A recorder plug-in for the hp 175A scope, found it on ePay in the US, will add more pictures another day as I'm quite tired tonight.




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Neat find. But where are you going to get the chart paper?  :-//
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« Reply #114303 on: February 23, 2022, 12:49:26 am »
Also puts a new spin on the phrase "All fur coat and no knickers"...

I've not heard that saying before.

The closest equivalent that comes to mind is "Full of hot air" ... or the simple "Bullshit".

Erm, no. It implies a certain moral laxity on behalf of the [normally female] target. I think you're confusing it with "All mouth and no trousers" to speak of one who "talks a good game" but which one knows will never actually take the actions boasted of being immanent - "One of these days Alice!".

Daughter: "Mum come quickly, Jonnie said that Albert's girlfriend is all fur coat and no knickers and Albert's said he's going to find Jonnie and thump him."
Mother: "Eee, pay that one no mind lass. He's all mouth and no trousers 'e is. He'll do nowt but talk about it."
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114304 on: February 23, 2022, 03:24:06 am »

The solution:
- slightly thicker synthetic (no cotton!  It holds moisture and water is great for heat transfer) underwear
- plastic bags strategically placed as close to the skin without actually touching the skin (feels icky) to make a vapour barrier to keep the clothing dry against sweat (super cold & no wind conditions)
OR
- plastic bags strategically placed as close to the outer layer of clothing as possible to block the wind chill (very windy conditions regardless of how cold)

The solutions work just as well for the ladies, except the strategic placement is different

I'd be inclined to test wool. A humidity-wicking synthetic close to the skin, and woolen thermal layer. Works for me, but I of course never engage in such activity levels. Being able to lift the wind-blocking layer off the skin with a bit of wool is a lot of difference.

Wool works for me as well.  When coaching the kids, I often wear a synthetic base layer, followed by a wool layer, followed by a synthetic fleece layer followed by a breathable shell.  If I do get too warm, which is unlikely at that intensity, I remove the fleece layer and put into my backpack.
Wool against the skin irritates some people and does not affect others.  I tend not to wear wool next to my skin in general, although a very fine wool is okay.

I typically ski 12 to 15 km/h with adult friends recreationally.  I would not even put on the fleece layer down to -20 deg C in that case.  The wool mid-layer is perfect for this.

I used to race myself, averaging just under 20 km/h in events 40 to 70 km long.  Unfortunately, I could no do that consistently.  My metabolism was also much faster in those days.  A synthetic base layer following by a racing shell was all that was needed.  The extra strategic protection at the front was useful for -10 deg C and colder.  About -18 deg C was the limit where a bit more layering became necessary.

These Olympic athletes are moving at an average speed closer to 22 km/h for the long races.  That is 10% faster than I ever could  :o , which is significant even if 2 km/h difference does not seem like much.  They are even faster in the shorter races.  Their goal of efficient muscle use is secondary to being able to reach the finish as fast as possible.  Lots of heat energy is being generated!  In effect, they are generally trying to keep warm appendages at the same time as trying to cool the core body.

People who have to survive in the northern most reaches of the planet wear the fur of the species native to those regions, nothing that we've come up with comes even close to the effectiveness of those 'primitive' solutions.

The problem with looking there for solutions is that I suspect that wearing seal fur knickers for Olympic competition is likely to be regarded as somewhat politically incorrect. Also puts a new spin on the phrase "All fur coat and no knickers"...

The Olympic competition scenario is quite different from the normal life scenario.  The competition is a performance that lasts a small period of time.
One should choose appropriately for that performance.

It is much the same in the north of the GWN.  'City folk' will spend large quantities of money for the so-called best synthetic garments for warmth prior to going to the far north.  Once there, they either quickly return, or they drop the political correctness and take the pragmatic approach of acquiring furs.  The synthetic garments are kept in a closet, ready for any visits to a city...  Furs are left at home, rather than drawing undesirable attention in the cities.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114305 on: February 23, 2022, 03:41:28 am »
How can I lust after those, when I already have the wall of Lambda & Tripplite...? :palm:

the PD2005 is analog porno.

It certainly is.  That is the one that caught my attention, but I just cannot justify the PITA to import it to the GWN.
No cross-border excursions anywhere on the horizon, especially not driving that far.

one day I will find a reasonable purpose for the PD2005A, and I will buy it.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114306 on: February 23, 2022, 05:56:09 am »
How can I lust after those, when I already have the wall of Lambda & Tripplite...? :palm:

the PD2005 is analog porno.

It certainly is.  That is the one that caught my attention, but I just cannot justify the PITA to import it to the GWN.
No cross-border excursions anywhere on the horizon, especially not driving that far.

one day I will find a reasonable purpose for the PD2005A, and I will buy it.

To me, the only things holding me back from buying 2020 or 2005 PD's are funds and mains voltage. Some of them are 120V only. A lot of PD is, actually. On the other hand, most [hp] and many others are 115/230 or similar.

When it's really nice gear, it's got a 400Hz supply frequency spec too.  Not only for airplane use, but also for things like Bloodhound surface-to-air missile batteries; they dragged 400Hz gensets around to supply all the gear.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114307 on: February 23, 2022, 07:44:46 am »
Also puts a new spin on the phrase "All fur coat and no knickers"...

I've not heard that saying before.

The closest equivalent that comes to mind is "Full of hot air" ... or the simple "Bullshit".

Erm, no. It implies a certain moral laxity on behalf of the [normally female] target. I think you're confusing it with "All mouth and no trousers" to speak of one who "talks a good game" but which one knows will never actually take the actions boasted of being immanent - "One of these days Alice!".

Daughter: "Mum come quickly, Jonnie said that Albert's girlfriend is all fur coat and no knickers and Albert's said he's going to find Jonnie and thump him."
Mother: "Eee, pay that one no mind lass. He's all mouth and no trousers 'e is. He'll do nowt but talk about it."

I always thought it was about paying more attention to appearances at the expense of essentials.
Good description of lots of websites and e-commerce....
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114308 on: February 23, 2022, 09:16:43 am »
How can I lust after those, when I already have the wall of Lambda & Tripplite...? :palm:

the PD2005 is analog porno.

It certainly is.  That is the one that caught my attention, but I just cannot justify the PITA to import it to the GWN.
No cross-border excursions anywhere on the horizon, especially not driving that far.

one day I will find a reasonable purpose for the PD2005A, and I will buy it.

I bought a PD2020B for £7 on fleabay (plus £50 P&P from the US), which contains an LM399 voltage reference. The 1mV precision is easily achieved, and a potentiometer can tweak a value to around 10µV.

That's sufficient for it to act as a general purpose voltage standard, and to be able to provide easily settable voltages for general purpose debugging. Plus it looks pretty and feels nice :0
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114309 on: February 23, 2022, 09:18:38 am »
To me, the only things holding me back from buying 2020 or 2005 PD's are funds and mains voltage. Some of them are 120V only.

That does need to be carefully checked. I had to rewire my 2020B's transformer. Fortunately the schematics are easily available.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114310 on: February 23, 2022, 09:41:28 am »
Started assessing/cleaning the Tek Type 105. As near as I can tell this thing is a virgin. It has never had any repair work or any sign of Gorilla activity. So I will be the one to bust it's cherry.  >:D Behind that upper cover resides a half dozen metal 6AG7 tubes.  >:D Been many years since I've seen metal tubes.

Looks amazing inside. 

Does it have the little spool of silver solder that Tek used to include with the ceramic terminal 'scopes?   

No idea if the 105 had that from new.
 

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« Reply #114311 on: February 23, 2022, 10:56:18 am »
Also puts a new spin on the phrase "All fur coat and no knickers"...

I've not heard that saying before.

The closest equivalent that comes to mind is "Full of hot air" ... or the simple "Bullshit".

Erm, no. It implies a certain moral laxity on behalf of the [normally female] target. I think you're confusing it with "All mouth and no trousers" to speak of one who "talks a good game" but which one knows will never actually take the actions boasted of being immanent - "One of these days Alice!".

Daughter: "Mum come quickly, Jonnie said that Albert's girlfriend is all fur coat and no knickers and Albert's said he's going to find Jonnie and thump him."
Mother: "Eee, pay that one no mind lass. He's all mouth and no trousers 'e is. He'll do nowt but talk about it."

OK .... It seems there is a little more to this discussion.

My interpretation was gender neutral - but it is apparent that the phrase does have gender specific variants that would appear to be couched in some cultural subtleties that are not generally understood here.  It also seems there is a little more specificity in the meaning.

We tend to hit the bottom line more directly here in Oz.
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« Reply #114312 on: February 23, 2022, 10:58:41 am »
Actually, I just re-read that and can see the difference.  I acknowledge the original intent and now know I slid off on a tangent.
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« Reply #114313 on: February 23, 2022, 11:03:14 am »
Man.. i got the bug... for TE i always had TEAS, but now the T starts to stand for Tektronix.
Had a 475, but then After i bought my working TDS744A, still working on that one (with some help from Jared),
i found a near new TDS1001C-EDU in box all there.

oyah and i bought for some reason a Tektronix DMM155  :palm:
Now i found the mailman bringing me and TDS220 incl original probes
the nobs did not sur5 the trip, but i ordered already on ALI a replacement kit.

Where is this going  :-DD
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« Reply #114314 on: February 23, 2022, 11:15:31 am »
Also puts a new spin on the phrase "All fur coat and no knickers"...

I've not heard that saying before.

The closest equivalent that comes to mind is "Full of hot air" ... or the simple "Bullshit".

Erm, no. It implies a certain moral laxity on behalf of the [normally female] target. I think you're confusing it with "All mouth and no trousers" to speak of one who "talks a good game" but which one knows will never actually take the actions boasted of being immanent - "One of these days Alice!".

Daughter: "Mum come quickly, Jonnie said that Albert's girlfriend is all fur coat and no knickers and Albert's said he's going to find Jonnie and thump him."
Mother: "Eee, pay that one no mind lass. He's all mouth and no trousers 'e is. He'll do nowt but talk about it."

OK .... It seems there is a little more to this discussion.

My interpretation was gender neutral - but it is apparent that the phrase does have gender specific variants that would appear to be couched in some cultural subtleties that are not generally understood here.  It also seems there is a little more specificity in the meaning.

We tend to hit the bottom line more directly here in Oz.
Yeah, like "All hat & no cattle" (although I think we share that one with Texas).
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114315 on: February 23, 2022, 11:23:47 am »
Today's TE arrival, something I've been searching for many many years to find, the hp 1784A recorder plug-in for the hp 175A scope, found it on ePay in the US, will add more pictures another day as I'm quite tired tonight.




David

Neat find. But where are you going to get the chart paper?  :-//

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114316 on: February 23, 2022, 11:35:32 am »
Man.. i got the bug... for TE i always had TEAS, but now the T starts to stand for Tektronix.
Had a 475, but then After i bought my working TDS744A, still working on that one (with some help from Jared),
i found a near new TDS1001C-EDU in box all there.

oyah and i bought for some reason a Tektronix DMM155  :palm:
Now i found the mailman bringing me and TDS220 incl original probes
the nobs did not sur5 the trip, but i ordered already on ALI a replacement kit.

Where is this going  :-DD

If you want one of those, let me know.  >:D :-DD
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« Reply #114317 on: February 23, 2022, 11:44:57 am »

Would it be a blasphemy to convert GOS-935 to a power supply?
https://www.leboncoin.fr/equipements_industriels/2077356723.htm

I can see how you arrived at the idea, but you would be required to do the readout (numeric and/or pointer) on the CRT!  >:D

Yes, but the up side is that there is a collar so I can drill some holes and with some leds and ldrs add a touch pad.


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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114318 on: February 23, 2022, 12:30:03 pm »
Man.. i got the bug... for TE i always had TEAS, but now the T starts to stand for Tektronix.
Had a 475, but then After i bought my working TDS744A, still working on that one (with some help from Jared),
i found a near new TDS1001C-EDU in box all there.

oyah and i bought for some reason a Tektronix DMM155  :palm:
Now i found the mailman bringing me and TDS220 incl original probes
the nobs did not sur5 the trip, but i ordered already on ALI a replacement kit.

Where is this going  :-DD

If you have loose or damaged BNC's on that TDS220, you can still buy them new. I was able to just resolder mine and they were fine.
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« Reply #114319 on: February 23, 2022, 12:39:41 pm »
 :-DD :-DD Yes i did.
Going to do just that. Solder the BNC's Ground-wire, replacing the Backlight, replacing the knobs.
the knobs had to much UV i think, they just break when you pull them off . so that took 5 seconds in my case :)
great tip on first removing tha power knob, so i don't break my switch too...

Thanks!  :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114320 on: February 23, 2022, 12:43:09 pm »
Started assessing/cleaning the Tek Type 105. As near as I can tell this thing is a virgin. It has never had any repair work or any sign of Gorilla activity. So I will be the one to bust it's cherry.  >:D Behind that upper cover resides a half dozen metal 6AG7 tubes.  >:D Been many years since I've seen metal tubes.

Looks amazing inside. 

Does it have the little spool of silver solder that Tek used to include with the ceramic terminal 'scopes?   

No idea if the 105 had that from new.

No, it doesn't have a spool of silver solder nor any indication that it ever did.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114321 on: February 23, 2022, 01:46:41 pm »
Also puts a new spin on the phrase "All fur coat and no knickers"...

I've not heard that saying before.

The closest equivalent that comes to mind is "Full of hot air" ... or the simple "Bullshit".

Erm, no. It implies a certain moral laxity on behalf of the [normally female] target. I think you're confusing it with "All mouth and no trousers" to speak of one who "talks a good game" but which one knows will never actually take the actions boasted of being immanent - "One of these days Alice!".

Daughter: "Mum come quickly, Jonnie said that Albert's girlfriend is all fur coat and no knickers and Albert's said he's going to find Jonnie and thump him."
Mother: "Eee, pay that one no mind lass. He's all mouth and no trousers 'e is. He'll do nowt but talk about it."

OK .... It seems there is a little more to this discussion.

My interpretation was gender neutral - but it is apparent that the phrase does have gender specific variants that would appear to be couched in some cultural subtleties that are not generally understood here.  It also seems there is a little more specificity in the meaning.

We tend to hit the bottom line more directly here in Oz.
I have absolutely no objections to a lady in a fur coat without knickers (and everything else)!
Hmmm..memories of a lady in a coat coming up..
 

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« Reply #114322 on: February 23, 2022, 02:04:43 pm »
Cheap (128$) Tek P6046 Differential probe on ebay this morning.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134032214465

The kit seem to be complete with 10x adapter and all the accessories.

 
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« Reply #114323 on: February 23, 2022, 02:57:02 pm »
Also puts a new spin on the phrase "All fur coat and no knickers"...

I've not heard that saying before.

The closest equivalent that comes to mind is "Full of hot air" ... or the simple "Bullshit".

Erm, no. It implies a certain moral laxity on behalf of the [normally female] target. I think you're confusing it with "All mouth and no trousers" to speak of one who "talks a good game" but which one knows will never actually take the actions boasted of being immanent - "One of these days Alice!".

Daughter: "Mum come quickly, Jonnie said that Albert's girlfriend is all fur coat and no knickers and Albert's said he's going to find Jonnie and thump him."
Mother: "Eee, pay that one no mind lass. He's all mouth and no trousers 'e is. He'll do nowt but talk about it."

OK .... It seems there is a little more to this discussion.

My interpretation was gender neutral - but it is apparent that the phrase does have gender specific variants that would appear to be couched in some cultural subtleties that are not generally understood here.  It also seems there is a little more specificity in the meaning.

We tend to hit the bottom line more directly here in Oz.
I have absolutely no objections to a lady in a fur coat without knickers (and everything else)!
Hmmm..memories of a lady in a coat coming up..

Almost sound like Furries people  :P
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #114324 on: February 23, 2022, 02:57:34 pm »
Annndd I just won a bid on a Tek TDS714L scope.

FML. I just can't help myself. :D
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