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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128450 on: August 03, 2022, 10:19:59 am »
My opinion, take it or leave it. I agree with Admin. Lately it seems this thread has been OT with some TE sprinkled in here and there. And I've been just as guilty at times for wandering into unrelated subjects. But if you noticed, or maybe you haven't, my overall participation in this thread has diminished lately but when I do post it's on topic. And also lately I may go a day or two and not even log in. Then I try to slug through what seems like 75% off topic vs 25% TE. It's getting old. We have Discord for that stuff.

The notion that this thread will die if we more closely police ourselves per admin's request is ridiculous. I'll always be here. And so will many others who like me are TE addicted. It's not necessary that this thread have 4 pages per day of unrelated topics in order to survive. In fact, we may attract more participants to this thread if we stick to it's main principle....Test Equipment.     
Sadly, the last point you make is NOT proving to be true, I do however agree that it does go too far from topic at times and causes pages of nonsense to be scrolled through to find something of interest.

I honestly do believe that we can do much to help ourselves here and that is when replying to something, instead of simply click the Quote tab and the adding our reply to the bottom of that post, simply delete the previous already quoted text and insert the following above the point to which you are referring, <snip> and add your comments after the last [/quote].

By doing this we will reduce the amount of scrolling to be done and also make it many times faster to decide if you want to read it, or skip it. The other thing that can be done and indeed many of us more adult members do this already, take it to PM's so as not to bore the pants off other members, especially if it is largely a chat between  one or two other members with little participation from others.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128451 on: August 03, 2022, 10:27:10 am »
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There's a line to be drawn somewhere, and the mods have to step in and draw it as they see fit. TBH I don't think their stance was unreasonable - lamentable French shooting etiquette and the legal position of bonfires in France, amongst other topics, were perhaps going too far. They have a light touch and don't step in often.

I gave up on one forum because the mods were over active. Anything that could be considered off-topic and they closed the thread. They seemed to enjoy closing threads. There was a list of forbidden topics, such as ebay. Then they started correcting spelling and grammar - and getting it wrong. I thought it was damned rude. That was it for me.
Thank you, you made my point in a very elegant manner, in many other forums, people have voted and moved away and can be seen by looking at dates of their postings, many have dates of 2021 because they are moderated way too much, and people have left.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128452 on: August 03, 2022, 10:33:21 am »
Just got my first Mouser order and I'm impressed. I ordered this on Friday. Was picked on Monday at 14:15 UK time in Texas. Arrived here today Wed at 11:45 UK time  :-+



TE related because this is to fix the Marconi 2022E. No UK suppliers of mini circuits stuff that I could find.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128453 on: August 03, 2022, 10:37:58 am »
Well the slightly younger HP 34401A that arrived last week seems to function OK (quick check on Sunday evening), quite a noticeable difference in display brightness too.

<SNIP>

The older one I was having trouble with when testing the 745A AC calibrator, seems to have died completely on all AC functions & frequency measurement, it was OK when I acquired it, another DMM for the lengthy repair queue.  |O

<SNIP>

David

I fixed my 34401A that had the exact same problem. See my post:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/msg4267654/#msg4267654

Message me when you go to fix it and, if it helps you, I'll mail you the parts I used to fix it. I ordered spares since they were tiny and cheap.

EDIT:

Added picture of schematic (highlights are mine)

C312 is a "Capacitor-Fxd 22 uF ±20% 20 V"
CR304 is a "Diode-Zener 3.3V 5% TO-236"

I'm wondering if I should do a preemptive replacement on mine. I actually have the tants already.

It was even a featured failure on EDN  :palm:

https://www.edn.com/repair-hp-34401a-capacitor-failure/

And xdevs:

https://xdevs.com/fix/hp34401a/

Edit: now I'm looking at hot air stations. Seeeee what we do to each other  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128454 on: August 03, 2022, 10:48:47 am »
No UK suppliers of mini circuits stuff that I could find.

In 2016 I bought an 18GHz DC block for my spectrum analysers from
  Mini-Circuits Europe Dale House
  Dale House, Wharf Road, Frimley Green Camberley, Surrey,GU16 6LF, England
  Phone: 44-125-283-2600
  Fax: 44-125-283-7010
  Website:  www.minicircuits.com
  Email:  [email protected]
List price plus £5 shipping, paid by credit card, no problems.

Apart from that, Mouser and DigiKey are listed as the distributors.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128455 on: August 03, 2022, 10:49:26 am »
@Saskia
The point I'm making is, to my mind, you need to ignore the SA etc and plonk yourself into your ideal listening position, blindfolded and then have lots of equipment demonstrated to you through the medium of just sound, and then decide which was the most pleasing to you. By the appliance of science and SA's etc, you may be doing yourself and your finances a disservice by appealing to any OCD's you may have about faithful reproduction.

The point here is that yes that it is possible to attain near to perfect reproduction of the original sound when you can see it represented to you visually on a screen, BUT are your ears truly capable of detecting the differences? People may be convincing themselves that they can when in reality its not true, I know I used to think that, but after having a hearing test a few years back, I was amazed to discover that my hearing was as not good as I thought it was at the higher end of the audible spectrum.

Also of course, if you have perfect hearing, to really enjoy music to that degree, one needs the time to sit in the optimum position, and I for one, don't have that time anyway.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128456 on: August 03, 2022, 10:55:08 am »
Just got my first Mouser order and I'm impressed. I ordered this on Friday. Was picked on Monday at 14:15 UK time in Texas. Arrived here today Wed at 11:45 UK time  :-+



TE related because this is to fix the Marconi 2022E. No UK suppliers of mini circuits stuff that I could find.
Wow, I never knew that you'd never experienced Mouser before. I find it rather amusing that some items have to be shipped here from the USA, and they can still beat many of the UK based supplies to the point of delivery.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128457 on: August 03, 2022, 10:56:57 am »
I have a Quick knockoff made by Atten that I can be talked into parting with.

I will consider that. I missed a Metcal the other day annoyingly which went for £151 :(

 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128458 on: August 03, 2022, 10:58:57 am »
No UK suppliers of mini circuits stuff that I could find.

In 2016 I bought an 18GHz DC block for my spectrum analysers from
  Mini-Circuits Europe Dale House
  Dale House, Wharf Road, Frimley Green Camberley, Surrey,GU16 6LF, England
  Phone: 44-125-283-2600
  Fax: 44-125-283-7010
  Website:  www.minicircuits.com
  Email:  [email protected]
List price plus £5 shipping, paid by credit card, no problems.

Apart from that, Mouser and DigiKey are listed as the distributors.

Had no idea they shipped direct. Next time I will hit that first. Thank you :)
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128459 on: August 03, 2022, 11:00:18 am »
Wow, I never knew that you'd never experienced Mouser before. I find it rather amusing that some items have to be shipped here from the USA, and they can still beat many of the UK based supplies to the point of delivery.

I never needed to use them until now. Actually I wanted to use Farnell but they were out of stock of two items. I needed to do a minicircuits order as well so the two combined worked out nicely.

And yes the USA delivery is better than the UK delivery. It's really stupid because it takes as long to get it to the RS trade counter down the road from me as well  :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm:

Black Star 600 dispatched. Wonder how knackered it is. For £20 I don't care  :-DD
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128460 on: August 03, 2022, 11:02:32 am »
Just got my first Mouser order and I'm impressed. I ordered this on Friday. Was picked on Monday at 14:15 UK time in Texas. Arrived here today Wed at 11:45 UK time  :-+



TE related because this is to fix the Marconi 2022E. No UK suppliers of mini circuits stuff that I could find.

Incoming parts from Mouser, ordered 31.07.2022, arrived today.
Mine was faster than yours.   :P   ;D



This is for a little project of mine. A friend of mine is a Rubik's Cube addicted and has a nice collection of them. I was told from his wife, that if he'd get a somewhat electronics cube from me, it'll get a place of honour in his collection.  ;D
The idea is, that I'll build some of those wireless LED thingies, discussed in this video from Big Clive and then apply to a 3x3 Rubik's cube.
TE is also involved of course, at least one soldering iron, a scope and a cursing generator (me) while assembling all this stuff.  ;D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128461 on: August 03, 2022, 11:13:17 am »
Just got my first Mouser order and I'm impressed. I ordered this on Friday. Was picked on Monday at 14:15 UK time in Texas. Arrived here today Wed at 11:45 UK time  :-+



TE related because this is to fix the Marconi 2022E. No UK suppliers of mini circuits stuff that I could find.

Incoming parts from Mouser, ordered 31.07.2022, arrived today.
Mine was faster than yours.   :P   ;D



This is for a little project of mine. A friend of mine is a Rubik's Cube addicted and has a nice collection of them. I was told from his wife, that if he'd get a somewhat electronics cube from me, it'll get a place of honour in his collection.  ;D
The idea is, that I'll build some of those wireless LED thingies, discussed in this video from Big Clive and then apply to a 3x3 Rubik's cube.
TE is also involved of course, at least one soldering iron, a scope and a cursing generator (me) while assembling all this stuff.  ;D

I submitted my Mouser order on Sunday and it arrives today. It's at my local UPS hub. But what sucks and I don't understand is why they offer you folks free shipping for orders over a certain amount but NOT USA customers. $9.99 USD if I want 2 day shipping regardless of amount.  :-//
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128462 on: August 03, 2022, 11:23:42 am »
@Saskia
The point I'm making is, to my mind, you need to ignore the SA etc and plonk yourself into your ideal listening position, blindfolded and then have lots of equipment demonstrated to you through the medium of just sound, and then decide which was the most pleasing to you. By the appliance of science and SA's etc, you may be doing yourself and your finances a disservice by appealing to any OCD's you may have about faithful reproduction.

Very good point. Trust your ears and not your equipment when it comes to perception.

The point here is that yes that it is possible to attain near to perfect reproduction of the original sound when you can see it represented to you visually on a screen, BUT are your ears truly capable of detecting the differences? People may be convincing themselves that they can when in reality its not true, I know I used to think that, but after having a hearing test a few years back, I was amazed to discover that my hearing was as not good as I thought it was at the higher end of the audible spectrum.

If you really want to hear the original sound you have to go to the concert itself. A recording is always a sample of what reality is. What I mean with this, is that the sound engineer sets up the microphones and makes the recording based on his perception of what it should be. The microphones are not always perfect, same for the amplifiers, recording equipment, etc.

This is also where the audio-foolery comes in when people start stating vinyl sounds so much better, it all depends on the mastering system, and that could well have been digital with only 16 bits resolution. It is the scratching and cracking of the needle that brings the "perfection" :-DD

Same as with synthesizers, analog versus digital, it is the imperfection of the analog that gives that special sound, and nowadays it can be perfectly emulated with digital. 8)

Also of course, if you have perfect hearing, to really enjoy music to that degree, one needs the time to sit in the optimum position, and I for one, don't have that time anyway.

Also very true. To setup a perfect audio environment you have to build some kind of studio. Having worked at a place where they had a studio with live front and dead end, it was a world of difference between listening in that studio and just some other room with an amplifier and speakers.

Edit: fixed a typo and underlined equipment to make sure it is on topic :)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128463 on: August 03, 2022, 11:26:53 am »
Just got my first Mouser order and I'm impressed. I ordered this on Friday. Was picked on Monday at 14:15 UK time in Texas. Arrived here today Wed at 11:45 UK time  :-+



TE related because this is to fix the Marconi 2022E. No UK suppliers of mini circuits stuff that I could find.

Incoming parts from Mouser, ordered 31.07.2022, arrived today.
Mine was faster than yours.   :P   ;D



This is for a little project of mine. A friend of mine is a Rubik's Cube addicted and has a nice collection of them. I was told from his wife, that if he'd get a somewhat electronics cube from me, it'll get a place of honour in his collection.  ;D
The idea is, that I'll build some of those wireless LED thingies, discussed in this video from Big Clive and then apply to a 3x3 Rubik's cube.
TE is also involved of course, at least one soldering iron, a scope and a cursing generator (me) while assembling all this stuff.  ;D

I submitted my Mouser order on Sunday and it arrives today. It's at my local UPS hub. But what sucks and I don't understand is why they offer you folks free shipping for orders over a certain amount but NOT USA customers. $9.99 USD if I want 2 day shipping regardless of amount.  :-//

It’s the only way to enter the market here. Farnell, RS, CPC, Rapid here all do the same.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128464 on: August 03, 2022, 11:27:38 am »
My opinion, take it or leave it. I agree with Admin. Lately it seems this thread has been OT with some TE sprinkled in here and there. And I've been just as guilty at times for wandering into unrelated subjects. But if you noticed, or maybe you haven't, my overall participation in this thread has diminished lately but when I do post it's on topic. And also lately I may go a day or two and not even log in. Then I try to slug through what seems like 75% off topic vs 25% TE. It's getting old. We have Discord for that stuff.

The notion that this thread will die if we more closely police ourselves per admin's request is ridiculous. I'll always be here. And so will many others who like me are TE addicted. It's not necessary that this thread have 4 pages per day of unrelated topics in order to survive. In fact, we may attract more participants to this thread if we stick to it's main principle....Test Equipment.     
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Sadly, the last point you make is NOT proving to be true, I do however agree that it does go too far from topic at times and causes pages of nonsense to be scrolled through to find something of interest.

I honestly do believe that we can do much to help ourselves here and that is when replying to something, instead of simply click the Quote tab and the adding our reply to the bottom of that post, simply delete the previous already quoted text and insert the following above the point to which you are referring, <snip> and add your comments after the last
.

By doing this we will reduce the amount of scrolling to be done and also make it many times faster to decide if you want to read it, or skip it. The other thing that can be done and indeed many of us more adult members do this already, take it to PM's so as not to bore the pants off other members, especially if it is largely a chat between  one or two other members with little participation from others.

If I were a new starry eyed TE addict and I started reading this thread recently the first question I would ask is "Where's the beef?". In other words....where is the freaking TE content?  :-// All I see is fluff and garbage. No thanks.    :--

And just to show you that I'm not totally against any off topic content my "Where's the beef" comes from this classic commercial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128465 on: August 03, 2022, 11:31:26 am »
@Saskia
The point I'm making is, to my mind, you need to ignore the SA etc and plonk yourself into your ideal listening position, blindfolded and then have lots of equipment demonstrated to you through the medium of just sound, and then decide which was the most pleasing to you. By the appliance of science and SA's etc, you may be doing yourself and your finances a disservice by appealing to any OCD's you may have about faithful reproduction.

The point here is that yes that it is possible to attain near to perfect reproduction of the original sound when you can see it represented to you visually on a screen, BUT are your ears truly capable of detecting the differences? People may be convincing themselves that they can when in reality its not true, I know I used to think that, but after having a hearing test a few years back, I was amazed to discover that my hearing was as not good as I thought it was at the higher end of the audible spectrum.

Also of course, if you have perfect hearing, to really enjoy music to that degree, one needs the time to sit in the optimum position, and I for one, don't have that time anyway.

I called in the SA when I found that the reproduction I was hearing was missing something that should have been there. And lo and behold, room acoustings were cancelling out some of the lower frequencies. So we took the SA and devised a proper programming of an active crossover to actually correct the room acoustics which lead to the reproduction to be back on par.
 
So I see your point, but it was just the other way around. And I am doing those blindfold comparisons, however they are at a stoopeed equipment level.
And what I find is that I like what I have most. And the only improvement that I could still *justify* would be to go for a pair of Quadral Titan Mk 3 (which I don't have any room for). Plus a Nakamichi Dragon CT turntable (which is so over the top expensive that I respectfully decline). As for my current setup:
the big stereo system is a Threshold FET 9 -> Threshold T-200 -> Quadral Vulkan Mk 3; a Nakamichi OMS 5 Mk 2  or OMS 7 Mk2 (they are about identical) plus my custom built audio streamer plus a Denon DP 47 turntable providing input. There may be better stuff around, but not for the price tag that I am willing to pay.
The small system is similar. The Sony TA-E (soon to be 88, currently 86) -> Nakamichi PA 5E Mk2 (which is a Threshold knockoff) -> Quadral Montan Mk 3 (same line as the Vulkan) with the Nakamichi CD player (as soon as I verify that it has been repaired properly) and one of my audio streamers.
You might argue that the Sony preamp is not a Threshold preamp (true), that one has better build quality than the other (debatable) or that they have different characteristics (true). However both of them feature fantastic build quality and a minimalistic design that is meant to keep the signal path uncluttered and as clean as possible.
In fact while there are subtle differences in music / sound reproduction between those preamps they (and the rest of the system) are at a level at which I don't care about the fractions of percentage of improvement theoretically possible by the introduction of huge piles of green paper (read monetary units). Tuner ? Don't need, public broadcasting quality is down the drain anyway. Tape decks ? The only real contender was Nakamichi, and prices for those are thru the roof. Plus, I have 2 Nakamichi tape decks of sufficient quality and a Revox Reel to Reel. CD ? see audio streamer or the Nakamichis. Turntables: there is indeed room for improvement. However the DP47 is a nice player, I have a Revox B790, a DP37 and a Pro-Ject as spares. Any improvement would set me back 3000+ quid. Worth it ? Don't know. If I saw a DP 80 with an SME 3012 and an Ortofon SPU GM for 2k I would probably take it because that was the kit I had to sell in my younger days. I did see a few Dragon CTs, however at 10000 for a turntable, that's a no thank you.

"You're talking about memories"

I do get pressed that I could improve my system this or that way. I am not taking any of this. Because I have thought hard about what I want and how I want it and I am building this stuff exactly that way. I have a very clear preconception of how it should sound. This is what I am trying to realize. I have arrived at that point with the large stereo set. I am working on it with the secondary. Once this is attained, I will focus on other stuff.

And yes, we will use an SA to analyze if my hearing, perception, room acoustics and everything match up with my expectations. This serves as a baseline to actually verify that I still have the hearing required to appreciate what I build and that I am on the right track. right meaning: meeting my expectations. Don't care what other people think.


 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128466 on: August 03, 2022, 11:43:31 am »
Don't care what other people think.

Exactly. When it comes to audio it's what you like. Let the audiophools be fools.  ::)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128467 on: August 03, 2022, 11:55:27 am »
Just in case some need a reminder as to why we are here. I was once that starry eyed newbie TE addict. My first post was on page 3.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/msg1117735/#msg1117735
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128468 on: August 03, 2022, 11:55:44 am »
I have a Quick knockoff made by Atten that I can be talked into parting with.

I will consider that. I missed a Metcal the other day annoyingly which went for £151 :(

Ooh. That was expensive  :)  >:D

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128469 on: August 03, 2022, 11:56:13 am »
I called in the SA when I found that the reproduction I was hearing was missing something that should have been there. And lo and behold, room acoustings were cancelling out some of the lower frequencies. So we took the SA and devised a proper programming of an active crossover to actually correct the room acoustics which lead to the reproduction to be back on par.

.....

And yes, we will use an SA to analyze if my hearing, perception, room acoustics and everything match up with my expectations. This serves as a baseline to actually verify that I still have the hearing required to appreciate what I build and that I am on the right track. right meaning: meeting my expectations. Don't care what other people think.

That is what is meant with perception based on your own ears. You missed something and checked it you were right. The equipment proved you were right. :-+

When the studio was build at the place I worked at, the room itself was actually tuned with the use of equipment to be as flat as possible across the audible range. Was very interesting to see, how they moved some panels and added some reflectors or dampers to get it done. Point of reference, the chair behind the mixing desk.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128470 on: August 03, 2022, 11:57:42 am »

The idea is, that I'll build some of those wireless LED thingies, discussed in this video from Big Clive and then apply to a 3x3 Rubik's cube.


What, no RGB leds? I think you missed an opportunity here, nothing beats a square randomly changing color a few times an hour  >:D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128471 on: August 03, 2022, 11:59:16 am »
I have a Quick knockoff made by Atten that I can be talked into parting with.

I will consider that. I missed a Metcal the other day annoyingly which went for £151 :(

Atten ST 862D https://www.tme.eu/de/details/st-862d/heissluftstationen/atten/

unused (except for quick function test, original packaging)
I also have a quick, so one of them may go.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128472 on: August 03, 2022, 12:20:46 pm »

The idea is, that I'll build some of those wireless LED thingies, discussed in this video from Big Clive and then apply to a 3x3 Rubik's cube.


What, no RGB leds? I think you missed an opportunity here, nothing beats a square randomly changing color a few times an hour  >:D

I've considered that but unfortunately not enough space for a µC and such. But it would be hard enough to keep track of all the colours while holding the cube in the magnetic field.  >:D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128473 on: August 03, 2022, 12:25:35 pm »
Don't care what other people think.

Exactly. When it comes to audio it's what you like. Let the audiophools be fools.  ::)

 :-+

Just to drive my point home:
This is the successor to the TA-E 88B that I picked up.
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/sony-ta-e900-vorverstaerker-preamp-hig-end-vintage/1710280896-172-4564
See http://www.thevintageknob.org/sony-TA-E900.html

The minor technical improvements over the TA-E 88B in no way justify the 1600€ added cost. The 88B is on par with the best affordable preamps around.
Why shove huge piles of hard earned cash into fractures of percentages sound improvement that boil down to individual taste, perception, preference ?
Makes no sense.

Not gonna happen.

btw this is the turntable I was talking about:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/294906574990

and this is what I would be searching for if I had one the mega millions.
https://positive-feedback.com/Issue33/tx1000.htm

Neither will materialize here. I am not shitting ducats. or any other bullion coins.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #128474 on: August 03, 2022, 12:34:26 pm »
Could chat about firearms all day but it’s best done via PM so to not draw the attention of Mods.  :-X
But of course we could instead chat about screwdrivers, hammers, baseball bats or cars….all lethal weapons also.

You had better be joking.
 
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