Author Topic: Flir E4 Thermal imaging camera teardown (Read 3811070 times)

Bud · « **Reply #8675 on:** December 10, 2021, 01:28:00 am »

Quote from: RO on December 09, 2021, 11:18:25 pm

The lowest brightness on the E4 is still very bright in a dark environment, I was hoping to find some LCD Brightness value, prerably something simple like (0 - 255), so I could tweak a bit.

I do not think this can be done, the intensity values LOW MEDIUM HIGH seem to be hard coded in one of the DLLs.

dave88 · « **Reply #8676 on:** December 10, 2021, 02:39:21 pm »

Just wanted to say big thanks to this thread. I came across a used flir e30bx in good condition for around 250 USD equivalent. And in just a few hours managed to upgrade it to the E60 plus spec. full resolution, 0 noise, video, bluetooth, wifi, visible light camera and led light etc...

Thought I would contribute a little myself. The guide Gustavo provided on page 240 is in general great also for us e30bx owners. However it did not work for me. Camera acted very strange on startup with no spotmeter and limited menues. Maybe because I have a different model year and a bx instead of a regular e30... So for those with early e30bx (mine was 2011). Here are a few tips.

Follow Gustavos guide on page 240. It gets you through every general step. But instead of working in the hack files he provided in the .zip, make changes based on your own files extracted from the camera (after backing them up first of course). I mirrored a lot of his changes and made some additions with 0 noise instead of 90 and retaining the spot meter when he had set it to False. Seemingly my config files had a few more rows that where not existing in his versions. So all checked out once I modified my own base config files instead of using the provided ones. A program that compares the config files and highlights the differences between his provided files and my original ones helped me alot to make the changes I needed to my files.

This thread really shows the importance of taking it slow, not just copy pasting, understanding the config files as all models and years seem a bit different from each other. It is well worth it!

Fraser · « **Reply #8677 on:** December 10, 2021, 04:08:10 pm »

Dave88,

I presume you also know that many E30bx cameras can have their temperature measurement range expanded using the Service Menu?

Glad the firmware I provided worked OK for you

Fraser

dave88 · « **Reply #8678 on:** December 10, 2021, 06:59:15 pm »

Yes @Fraser !

Big thanks to you for the file. I could not find it anywhere else, the fact that you still had it really enabled this upgrade

. I will store it in a safe place and maybe I can repay the favor to someone down the line. I am quite blown away by the price/performance of this 10 year old device! The level of detail and accuracy is miles ahead of my gen 1 Flir One IOS. With the resolution and 0 noise setting i don't miss MSX. I can still clearly see the outlines of objects in the thermal image as even the most minute temperature difference is shown.

Yes i just logged on via the browser. Entered Service mode, then there was a tab called Calibration -> Enable/Disable Cases -> Enabled 0-650 option. There was a 200-1200 option as well but there seemed to be no calibration data for that one (No RBK). Super easy!

Will use the camera for some weeks and then dive back into the config files as there seemed to be more interesting features and functions to activate. My favorite new feature aside from noise and resolution improvements is that the laser pointer now shows up as a nice red dot on the thermal image. I never saw that before I did the upgrade....

Fraser · « **Reply #8679 on:** December 10, 2021, 07:22:25 pm »

I enabled most functions and do not regret it

I want to change the image compression on saved images but have yet to get around to it. The level of image compression used on these cameras degrades the saved image quality.

Fraser

Angel · « **Reply #8680 on:** December 14, 2021, 04:16:40 pm »

Quote from: 2lps on May 16, 2016, 09:18:59 pm

Is the camera booting normally?

While I played with some files, I messed something and was not able to use flir/3vlig.
Fortunately, you can use the anonymous user - do not enter any user name/password. Not sure what permissions it has, but I just checked and you can download/upload files to the file system. I was also able to backup the camera files. I used the anonymous user to correct my mistake and the camera booted normally after that.

I don't see any update of the 2.11 package on Flir's site (last one is from 21 Jan 2016), so flir/3vlig should be working if the camera is booting normally.

I have one V2.3 hacked, stay at RNDIS mode. flir/3vlig does login when it turns on normally.
It just does not turn on one day. (No response to power button, but show charging icon when connect to a computer or charger) When connecting to a computer, flir/3vlig gets "530 Bad user name/password" but anonymous user does login to the file list.
But it still does not turn on. FLIRInstallNet does not see it, either.
Is it bricked? Any methods to bring it back?

Sincerely.

Bud · « **Reply #8681 on:** December 15, 2021, 01:33:32 am »

Is it intermittent failure (sometimes turns on and sometimes does not) or it does not turn on anymore?

Angel · « **Reply #8682 on:** December 15, 2021, 10:33:32 am »

Quote from: Bud on December 15, 2021, 01:33:32 am

Is it intermittent failure (sometimes turns on and sometimes does not) or it does not turn on anymore?

I did not use it several months. It worked fine before.
Several days ago, I took it out of the box, it did not turn on.
I thought it might because of low battery power and charged it over night. A full power icon was shown.
But it still did not turn on. I unplugged the USB cable and tried the power button, shutter trigger, menu button... everything on it, it turned on once.
After that, no matter how I tried, it does not turn on anymore.

Fraser · « **Reply #8683 on:** December 15, 2021, 11:27:40 am »

You have likely already done this but have you tried connecting the charger and holding the power button down for 30 seconds to initiate a cold boot reset of the system and memory ?

It is worth gently cleaning the battery contacts with some Isopropyl Alcohol. If you do not have IPA, just clean them with a soft cloth. Over time, I found a layer of an oily substance (out-gassing from plastic camera casing or hard carry case ?) would form on the ‘gold’ contacts of the battery and it would not always work correctly. Though in your case, you were able to charge the battery so this may not be the problem.

Fraser

Angel · « **Reply #8684 on:** December 15, 2021, 03:33:35 pm »

Quote from: Fraser on December 15, 2021, 11:27:40 am

You have likely already done this but have you tried connecting the charger and holding the power button down for 30 seconds to initiate a cold boot reset of the system and memory ?

It is worth gently cleaning the battery contacts with some Isopropyl Alcohol. If you do not have IPA, just clean them with a soft cloth. Over time, I found a layer of an oily substance (out-gassing from plastic camera casing or hard carry case ?) would form on the ‘gold’ contacts of the battery and it would not always work correctly. Though in your case, you were able to charge the battery so this may not be the problem.

Fraser

Sincerely thank you.
I held the power button for several minutes without the charger, it turns on! With the charger, it still does not turn on.
flir/3vlig could login the camera.
After power off, it's hard to turn on again.
Generally, how long should the power button been hold when turning on the camera?

Fraser · « **Reply #8685 on:** December 15, 2021, 03:45:22 pm »

Sorry, I sold my E4 some time ago and have forgotten how long I had to press the power button for a cold start reset.

It has been known for the power button to fail and your camera may be suffering from this failure ?

Fraser

Angel · « **Reply #8686 on:** December 15, 2021, 04:29:27 pm »

After the cold reset, it turns on when holding the power button 10-20 seconds.
To know it still working is a great relief.
But wish to know the normal status of the other's E4. How long should the button be hold for a normal turn on? What to do to help keeping it in normal condition?
Thanks a lot.

Fraser · « **Reply #8687 on:** December 15, 2021, 04:36:42 pm »

Less than 5 seconds from memory.

Fraser

Bud · « **Reply #8688 on:** December 15, 2021, 09:10:07 pm »

It is quick, you push the power button for a second at most.

Edit: About 6 seconds press and hold it is to power off the camera, otherwise it will go in sleep/standby mode until the timeout expires. The timeout is configured in Settings.

@OP: next time you power the camera off, do it by a long power button press (6 sec) and after a while see if it powers on normally. Maybe the issue is with standby mode. Also check in Settings how stanby timeout is configured.

Angel · « **Reply #8689 on:** December 16, 2021, 05:32:09 pm »

Trying power off by a long power button press, it powers on normally.
Auto power off was set at 5 min.
Thanks all of you.

I could keep trying to get over incomplete menu hack.
model: E4 1.2L
Software: 2.3.0
After menu hack, measurement has 4 options: center spot, hot spot, cold spot, and no measurement.
Color has 5 options: Iron, Rainbow, Gray, Below alarm, and Above alarm.
Is 2.11.0 necessary to get more measurement and color options?
Or maybe I did some procedures wrong in hacking?

Bud · « **Reply #8690 on:** December 16, 2021, 07:55:09 pm »

Try using the files from this post
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/thermal-imaging/flir-e4-wifi-resolution-and-menu-hack-thread/msg3864980/#msg3864980

Angel · « **Reply #8691 on:** December 17, 2021, 01:10:23 pm »

Thank you. I bumped into almost the same problem with windtalker.
I uploaded these four files and overwrited the original files.
Reboot the camera, the measurement, color have still 4 and 5 options. No zoom in option in menu.
Is there anything I missed?

Bud · « **Reply #8692 on:** December 17, 2021, 01:50:52 pm »

Did you do a cold reboot with removal of the battery?

Angel · « **Reply #8693 on:** December 17, 2021, 02:39:45 pm »

I did a cold reboot, it didn't work.
I tried menu hack again, but it didn't work. Below is the log:
Connected
Installation started...
Adding /FlashBFS/system/arctic.pal
Adding /FlashBFS/system/lava.pal
Adding /FlashBFS/system/rainhc.pal
Adding /FlashBFS/system/bootlogo_legal.bmp
Adding /FlashBFS/system/appcore.d/factory.d/ui_control.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_centerHotColdSpot.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_centerspot.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_coldspot.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_deltaSpot.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_deltaTemp.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_fiveSpots.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_hotColdSpot.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_hotspot.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_nomeasure.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_threeSpots.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_threeSpots_ori.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/presets.d/preset_twoHotSpots.rsc
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/toolbar-config.xml
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/design_ui.xml
Adding /FlashBFS/system/ui.d/facet.rcc
Process local command: SHOW "Camera will now restart",7
User selected YES
Camera command restart
Close TELNET link
Process local command: DISCONNECT
Disconnecting...
Camera update completed

Ok

Bud · « **Reply #8694 on:** December 17, 2021, 03:46:17 pm »

I do not see this script updating the dll and config files which has to be the first step. Was it done separately?

Also by running it again you've likely overriden the files i pointed you to earlier.

Angel · « **Reply #8695 on:** December 17, 2021, 04:09:29 pm »

I followed fubar's instruction ( https://fubar.gr/hacking-the-flir-e4/#google_vignette )
Hacking conf.cfc by python first. Than ran menu.fif by FLIRInstallNet. The log is scripted by FLIRInstallNet.
After the process above, the four files given were overwritten again. The menu hacking is still not fully working.

Bud · « **Reply #8696 on:** December 17, 2021, 04:15:20 pm »

Y'd need to check the conf file timestamp on the camera to make sure it was transferred correctly. Also you should have only one config file in a folder. If you made a backup of the original config file by renaming it and leaving on the camera, you have to delete it from the folder.

Angel · « **Reply #8697 on:** December 18, 2021, 03:27:07 am »

Thank you Bud.
I checked the conf.cfc timestamp is updated. // FlashFS-system-appcore.d-factory.d // folder has only one file: conf.cfc.

conf.cfc was attached.

Bud · « **Reply #8698 on:** December 18, 2021, 04:30:42 am »

PM me your SUID and S/N , I'll take a look.

Bud · « **Reply #8699 on:** December 19, 2021, 06:37:57 am »

I have looked and could not find anything wrong with the config. I am out of ideas.


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