AD20 + Altium365 discount offer

[ErikI]

As it is not yet posted here and people might not be aware, Altium is offering a discounted deal currently:
AD20 (-50%) 3995 USD
1y of subscription 1895 USD
Altium 365, included with subscription
Total 5890 USD

Didn't see any info about how long the offer will last.
More info: https://www.altium.com/ad-purchase-promo?promo_name=anywhere-anyone-q4&promo_position=sticky-top&promo_creative=v1&promocode=YMW77

[thm_w]

Says until May 15.
The interesting part is the monthly subscription, still high ($500/month), but I think its the first time they've done this.

[olkipukki]

AD20 (-50%) 3995 USD
1y of subscription 1895 USD

Yes, they are after a crowd that will generate an infinite cashflow in years to come 

[olkipukki]

The interesting part is the monthly subscription, still high ($500/month), but I think its the first time they've done this.

What do you mean by 'monthly subscription'?

For me, it's just an interest-free loan, more or less same way how you can buy most _overpriced stuff these days...

[thm_w]

What do you mean by 'monthly subscription'?

For me, it's just an interest-free loan, more or less same way how you can buy most _overpriced stuff these days...

My assumption is that you can pay the $500 once and then stop payment, but Its not clear on their site.
But you are likely right. There will be however, a point between $60/month (eagle PCB) and $500/month, where you can consider it a subscription service.

[T3sl4co1l]

Unless they're setting up the "365" differently (read the terms!), the license is one-time and what you're buying is support (new software updates, new vault content, whatever).

Tim

[olkipukki]

My assumption is that you can pay the $500 once and then stop payment, but Its not clear on their site.
But you are likely right. There will be however, a point between $60/month (eagle PCB) and $500/month, where you can consider it a subscription service.

If you stop your payment, they will revoke the license since you have breached T&C
On-Demand licensing without roaming feature allows easy to do so 

Don't forger On-Demand and Standalone is not same, On-Demand basically is a floating license where license server hosted and controlled by Altium 

$500/m for a subscription? If you need just a month or two, might be.


P.S.
Screenshot taken from https://www.altium.com/ad-purchase-promo/altium-designer

[Ice-Tea]

My assumption is that you can pay the $500 once and then stop payment, but Its not clear on their site.
But you are likely right. There will be however, a point between $60/month (eagle PCB) and $500/month, where you can consider it a subscription service.

If you stop your payment, they will revoke the license since you have breached T&C
On-Demand licensing without roaming feature allows easy to do so 

Don't forger On-Demand and Standalone is not same, On-Demand basically is a floating license where license server hosted and controlled by Altium 

$500/m for a subscription? If you need just a month or two, might be.

Makes pretty good sense, actually. Small shops might have a project that needs Altium for a few months before moving onto something else.

[olkipukki]

For me, it's just an interest-free loan, more or less same way how you can buy most _overpriced stuff these days...

Sorry to be pedantic, nope, not an interest-free loan 495x12 != 5890 

Right now you can “buy now and pay later” to get a full perpetual license of Altium Designer with reduced pricing in a single payment,
or in 12 interest-free installment payments when you add an additional license. You’ll also have the opportunity to save even more when you refer others who purchase.

You will get a zero interest for an additional license only, otherwise a small difference
Also, you can get even more from a referral

[Pseudobyte]

I think he was referring to the fact he pays with paypal credit and the like. 0% 12 month financing

[alexwhittemore]

I think he was referring to the fact he pays with paypal credit and the like. 0% 12 month financing

PP Credit is 6mo 0%, and only if you can actually pay with paypal in the first place (I assume Altium LTD doesn't take PayPal?)

Anyway - $500/mo for 1 year DOES have me seriously considering finally picking up a license. These days, I generally only use it on a "client has a license and prefers it over Eagle" basis. But $500 monthly is tolerable, where $9800 all at once THEN $150/mo after worth of subscription is a little too steep to justify.

But has anyone actually talked to a rep about it? I answered the phone for them and when I mentioned $500/mo*12 was still not impulse-buy territory for my Eagle $500/yr blood, my rep mentioned something about a pretty damn steep ADDITIONAL discount if I could prove I'm a current Eagle user. Might actually jump on that.

[PlainName]

I think it would depend heavily on where you are, since the local distributor/agent will be doing any deals. FWIW, here in the UK they sent me an invoice with a PayPal 'click here to pay' link.

If the price you quote is more or less acceptable to you, that Eagle competitive cross-grade could make it very attractive. Time negotiations for when the end of the financial quarter is fast approaching, particularly now with the global slowdown, and I'm sure you would get an offer you couldn't refuse

[alexwhittemore]

Time negotiations for when the end of the financial quarter is fast approaching, particularly now with the global slowdown, and I'm sure you would get an offer you couldn't refuse

Usually I find the offer is entirely refusable - even at the end of a quarter. But the global slowdown - this time you might just be right.

Of course, the main problem here is that I'm not immune to the slowdown myself - I'm not typically in the position of being able to make more money with Altium vs Eagle, and that's an especially uncertain gamble right now!

[PlainName]

Yeah, my comment kind of assumed you had a use-case for it. If you don't, it's an expensive itch to scratch.

[ebclr]

"Not everyone needs Allegro SPB, thanks. I just want a quick and clean tool that looks fresh and doesn't lag without running on a 5 pound mobile workstation."

Take a look on Dip trace

https://diptrace.com/

Is exactly a fast and clean tool, with a decent interface ( this is where Kicad lack a lot )

[Pseudobyte]

I think he was referring to the fact he pays with paypal credit and the like. 0% 12 month financing

PP Credit is 6mo 0%, and only if you can actually pay with paypal in the first place (I assume Altium LTD doesn't take PayPal?)

Anyway - $500/mo for 1 year DOES have me seriously considering finally picking up a license. These days, I generally only use it on a "client has a license and prefers it over Eagle" basis. But $500 monthly is tolerable, where $9800 all at once THEN $150/mo after worth of subscription is a little too steep to justify.

But has anyone actually talked to a rep about it? I answered the phone for them and when I mentioned $500/mo*12 was still not impulse-buy territory for my Eagle $500/yr blood, my rep mentioned something about a pretty damn steep ADDITIONAL discount if I could prove I'm a current Eagle user. Might actually jump on that.

They do indeed accept paypal. Paypal credit terms also vary.

[olkipukki]

Take a look on Dip trace

https://diptrace.com/

Is exactly a fast and clean tool, with a decent interface ( this is where Kicad lack a lot )

Hopefully version 4 gives much more than 3.x I tried before.
At least for people, who don't go wild with KiCad 

[alexwhittemore]

Jumped on the deal, signed last week. Silence and now they tell me it'll be 24-48 hours before I can actually get the license I signed for.

God holy jesus I hate Altium as a company.

EDIT: A bit of an update, it was only like 4 hours, and they still haven't actually billed me for it like 3 weeks later. So I guess I'm okay with it? Still feels a bit like a normal "checkout" page on a website would be preferable.

[PlainName]

they still haven't actually billed me for it like 3 weeks later

The sales/quote document you agree to has a live 'Click Here to Pay Now' link which may not be properly visible if you do it online, and be blocked by your PDF reader offline. You need to visit the URL it points to.

I think they do 30-day terms as standard so you have a month to not pay before they start chasing you.

[alexwhittemore]

they still haven't actually billed me for it like 3 weeks later

The sales/quote document you agree to has a live 'Click Here to Pay Now' link which may not be properly visible if you do it online, and be blocked by your PDF reader offline. You need to visit the URL it points to.

I think they do 30-day terms as standard so you have a month to not pay before they start chasing you.

I just double checked and I SWEAR it doesn’t, not that I can find either reading via docusign or PDF. But also we’re not talking about net-30 in this case, as the deal is 12 monthly payments, which might have something to do with it being different.

[PlainName]

Ah, monthly would be tricky to do with a single 'pay now' thing, true

[PlainName]

and I SWEAR it doesn’t

I want to apologise profusely about this. It's not that I didn't believe you, just that the previous exchange fell beyond my pre-morning tea memory horizon.

[alexwhittemore]

and I SWEAR it doesn’t

I want to apologise profusely about this

I mean, don't worry too much, I wasn't LITERALLY swearing 

[Spark-Doctor]

Got this the other day from Altium, they are even going to throw in a years subscription to Concord Pro

Many CircuitStudio users are successfully making the switch to Altium Designer as their professional tool of choice because it’s so easy to use and powerful enough to tackle any design. What’s even better is right now you can get it for an unbeatable price.
Until June 21st, you can upgrade to Altium Designer 20 for just GBP2.665 (roughly 65% off) including 1-year of Subscription and access to our collaborative cloud platform, Altium 365. To make things even easier, you can opt to pay over 12 months at just GBP225 per month.
Please reply back directly if you have any questions or wish to receive a quote while you can still get this unbeatable price.
Best,
 
 

[alexwhittemore]

Got this the other day from Altium, they are even going to throw in a years subscription to Concord Pro

Or, as they advertise it, “365” which I guess, in the individual case, is literally synonymous with concord pro cloud hosted.

Anyway, frankly, the concord pro/365 stuff is quite nice. I definitely plan to make use of it, and depending on how much I use Altium generally the next year, I’d probably be inclined to keep a subscription for it (on top of updates of course)