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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1725 on: September 29, 2019, 06:32:13 pm »
Thanks radioman for all the help on this thread. I have a genuine TL866CS that I foolishly flashed using the firmware of 6.85 and it never worked properly afterwards. I did the resistor trick tacking it to the regulator and holding it to R26 and reflashed it with the firmware from 6.71 and all is well again... after a few reboots/programming attempts.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1726 on: October 02, 2019, 09:09:38 am »
Hi EVV Community,
I want to program an AMD AM29F800BB, which is a TSOP chip and supported accordingly to the MiniPro Software.

I found the following adapter, but it is not compatible with Minipro due to that it has 44-DIP:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SOP44-To-DIP44-IC-Socket-Programmer-Universal-Converter-Adapter-/173692224913?fbclid=IwAR334as6qdB5LNtYGP9zXhdchUaqj7VLKzd3x35VHTlulfOKCH1l9Jj-pWo

Any suggestions?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1727 on: October 02, 2019, 01:19:12 pm »
Hi EVV Community,
I want to program an AMD AM29F800BB, which is a TSOP chip and supported accordingly to the MiniPro Software.

I found the following adapter, but it is not compatible with Minipro due to that it has 44-DIP:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SOP44-To-DIP44-IC-Socket-Programmer-Universal-Converter-Adapter-/173692224913?fbclid=IwAR334as6qdB5LNtYGP9zXhdchUaqj7VLKzd3x35VHTlulfOKCH1l9Jj-pWo

Any suggestions?

You need special adapters.



http://www.autoelectric.cn/en/TL866_Adapter.html
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1728 on: October 02, 2019, 04:23:02 pm »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1729 on: October 02, 2019, 05:29:14 pm »
Yes, if you have a SOP44 Chip it works.

Beware that you need also the Base-Adapter.
The socket as standalone does not work.

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1731 on: October 03, 2019, 09:39:55 am »
Yes, you have to have the Base-Adatper.

The best is you buy a Adapter-Kit.
My one i have buyed from the Bay.
https://www.ebay.de/itm/TSOP32-40-48-PSOP44-SOP-56-adapter-for-TL866CS-866A-programm-29LV800-39VF80/332847085357

You can see it includes also a Psop44.
Its not a Fake Adapter and works like a charm.

On Ali you need this one if you want only to programm a Sop44:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32756548203.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000023.22.4ea2302cyTsHDL

Sometimes its cheaper to buy the whole Kit.
You have then some Adapters as an additional Bonus.

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1732 on: October 04, 2019, 05:42:14 pm »
@firewalker Since you appear to be the de-facto expert (hexpert?) here- I've about to try and bugger up my brand new TL866. I have a 48 TSOP NAND, and wanted to read it in-system rather than desolder it. To do so, I used the Chip-Clip 360 (480)- so I can snap onto the chip, then break it out to program.

http://www.360-clip.com/

It's the full pin-out, 48 (56)... I see some other adapters, but I'm not guessing much more.

The first 4 pins aren't used (NC) on the breakout board, but without knowing how to setup the TL866 to actually use all the pins I didn't want to go around snipping standoffs yet.

Any suggestions or did I get the wrong on-circuit breakout cable?

(And yeah, I could just desolder it, but this is nicer if it works...)
« Last Edit: October 04, 2019, 05:48:59 pm by Purduephotog »
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1733 on: October 05, 2019, 01:10:18 pm »
radioman is the absolute ruler of this thread!  :) :) :)

What is the part number of the memory? In any case, there is no guaranty even if you make the right connections that you will be able to read the chip. By applying voltage to the circuit it could do many unwanted things.

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1734 on: October 14, 2019, 09:23:58 pm »
Radioman thank you for this hack from CS to A version.

I already upgraded my CS tool to A version as you mentioned in the post #1257 on the page 51 and the tool is working like a rocket!

Thank you.
My best regards.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1735 on: October 15, 2019, 05:35:36 am »
Radioman for president.
Another happy customer here.
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1736 on: October 16, 2019, 04:06:31 am »
Radioman for president.
Another happy customer here.

Agree, but, as president, Radioman probably is targeted for an assassination as the manufacturer probably still has pile of stock of A model that is soooo difficult to sell.  :-DD

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1737 on: October 16, 2019, 07:42:07 am »
Do this firmware update A to CS works with 6.85 software version ??
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1738 on: October 16, 2019, 11:54:27 pm »

Thank you all guys!

Radioman for president.
LOL! this was a good one :-+

Agree, but, as president, Radioman probably is targeted for an assassination
Well, that's why i don't candidate! Because I'm afraid of Chinese triad. :phew:

Seriously they should pay me for free advertising and years of free support for their crappy products. And also for adding Linux support to their devices. Right Mr. Wang?

This is the Linux support thread:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/reviews/tl866-linux-support/
Please post there any questions regarding to Linux/wine issues or related questions.
The Linux minipro project page is here:
https://gitlab.com/DavidGriffith/minipro/
Many people contributed to this project including me.

Regarding to that
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pile of stock of A model
they should donate them to poor students not to recycle them.

The new TL866II plus model suffers from the same disorder as his little  brother. Bunch of people with bricked devices because of a failed firmware update. Why motherboard (an other) manufacturers will give you the firmware(efi/bios) on their website and you don't? afraid of cloners? We all know where those cloners are located! they are your own countrymen.
Please find and sue them but don't implement malicious(and shi..y) code to brick clones.
That shi..y code already bricked genuine devices but thanks to my work those people restored their devices.

The history is repeating again! Bricked TL866II+ ! And because of this thread notoriety some people asks for help here or by PM me because the manufacturer don't even respond.

Do this firmware update A to CS works with 6.85 software version ??
Yes this will work with any version. But this depends if your device is genuine or not. Even if you have a clone you can but sometimes you can brick it. Not a big deal if you have some technicall skills. The restore procedure is quite easy.
There are two possible upgrade methods. The first one is very similar to how an arduino board works. There's a bootloader and you upload a 'sketch' (in our case the sketch is the A or CS firmware). Simple as that.
The second upgrade option is more risky and involves reflashing the whole chip. This is a two step process. First upload a custom firmware and then that custom firmware will erase and reflash the new bootloader. Then the normal firmware is flashed back.
I recommend you to try the first method first.

Happy firmware reflashing and may the force be with you!
 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1739 on: October 17, 2019, 01:38:24 am »
Just imagine how powerful the 866 could be if the creator gave us the ability to add our own devices.
VE7FM
 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1740 on: October 17, 2019, 08:37:31 pm »
Is it just my PC, or does the TL866 software (latest version, downloaded today) have places on the screen where the font is the wrong size?



Am I lacking a font that is present in Chinese but not American Windows?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1741 on: October 17, 2019, 08:59:27 pm »
Is it just my PC, or does the TL866 software (latest version, downloaded today) have places on the screen where the font is the wrong size?

You might have text scaling selected in your Windows settings, and the TL866 software doesn't handle it well? What physical screen resolution do you have, and what text scaling have you set in Windows?
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1742 on: October 17, 2019, 09:13:18 pm »
Just imagine how powerful the 866 could be if the creator gave us the ability to add our own devices.

That github SW for the TL866 does not help?
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1743 on: October 17, 2019, 09:15:48 pm »
Is it just my PC, or does the TL866 software (latest version, downloaded today) have places on the screen where the font is the wrong size?

You might have text scaling selected in your Windows settings, and the TL866 software doesn't handle it well? What physical screen resolution do you have, and what text scaling have you set in Windows?

That's going to take some investigation.  I did initially open it on a screen that has text scaling (a very high-res screen).  But the problem persisted when it was opened on a screen without scaling. 

I gather other people's copies of the software don't do this?  I will investigating the scaling settings for this specific software (they can be set for a specific .exe, in Properties, and I have had to do it with some software).  I wanted to check that it wasn't a known problem.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1744 on: October 17, 2019, 09:45:11 pm »
OK, it did help considerably to find XGpro.exe, right-click on Properties, and choose Compatibility, Change High DPI Settings, Override High DPI Scaling, System (Enhanced).

"Blank check" is still cut off, and when I choose Russian or Chinese language, I do not get the appropriate character set, so I still think the designer was using a font that I don't have, maybe a font that almost nobody has.  It's an easy mistake to make. 

Thanks for the suggestion to look into this.
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1745 on: October 18, 2019, 05:08:32 am »
Hello!
I am pleased to announce that a new Android version of the software for TL866A/CS has been released.
Now WizardProg Expert supports 13966 devices. Original windows soft TL866A/CS supports 14037 devices.
WizardProg Expert does not support only PAL/GAL, Dallas SRAM DS series, not work testing SRAM and logic IC.
Everything else works!
Look WizardProg Expert at Google Play.
Free version of WizardProg Expert is WizardProg Mobile, supports 3000 devices.
Thanks.
 
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1746 on: October 18, 2019, 06:58:57 am »
Sregmm you did a great job, but fail on the same point that the Chinese did, does not support custom creation of chip profiles by the user, With this feature well documented you will gain hundreds of new parts per month made by the user community
 

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1747 on: October 18, 2019, 07:13:18 am »
I want ramtron fram support.
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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1748 on: October 18, 2019, 07:38:35 am »
Sregmm you did a great job, but fail on the same point that the Chinese did, does not support custom creation of chip profiles by the user, With this feature well documented you will gain hundreds of new parts per month made by the user community

If I'm not mistaken, our president candidate radioman  :P, had explained in the past, that this programmer by design, customized profile must be supplied by the manufacturer as they're hardcoded at the chip, not at the client software PC side.

I'm not the expert, CMIIW.  :-//

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Re: EEVblog #411 - MiniPro TL866 Universal Programmer Review
« Reply #1749 on: October 18, 2019, 05:01:56 pm »
If I'm not mistaken, our president candidate radioman  :P
knock knock who's there? me autoelectric. I kill you!  ;D

Yes that's right. I explained here in this post:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-411-minipro-tl866-universal-programmer-review/msg408976/#msg408976

The open source CLI minipro software has some user defined devices, but these are only variations of the existing protocols.
 
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