I just placed my first ever order with JLCPCB. I'm in Canada, so the $5 USD cost of the order was converted to $6.25 CAD. In the past, when ordering things with FedEx, my experience has been that they just dump the item at your doorstep, then they wait 3 weeks and mail you an invoice for their brokerage service, which has a $50+ base fee. So, I never use FedEx if I can avoid it. I picked DHL Express, which cost $19 shipping for my $6 order. The package is now in the country, and DHL have just sent me an invoice for an additional $20 to get it through customs. Surely at $6.25 CAD, this order doesn't even have any customs to be paid. DHL is wanting to be paid over $40 in order to deliver a tiny box with 10 small PCBs valued at $6. Not impressed. If I want to self-clear, I need to deliver documentation by hand and pick up the item from their depot, both of which are near the airport, a half hour drive away. Waiting to hear back if they'll let me do that at this point. :-/
This is what we've allowed our system to become, don't blame FedEx, UPS, DHL or Canada Post... They didn't make the asinine rules that we importers of goods need to follow!
This is what we've allowed our system to become, don't blame FedEx, UPS, DHL or Canada Post... They didn't make the asinine rules that we importers of goods need to follow!
But they are the ones charging for nonsense. Not sure how about in Canada, I am only familiar in doing customs paperwork in a completely different country, but from what I know, it is a just copying few relevant numbers to a computer system and then paying the shit up. The actual paperwork done is barely worth of 5 minutes of someone's work. Maybe 10 minutes, if you make the work for them harder, by not looking the specific category of the goods in advance (TARIC,KN).
Unfortunately, such fees are not legislatively regulated, so they can charge whatever they find fit. You, as the importer are the one responsible and it is your job to research the relevant law and rules, to not be surprised later.
I just placed my first ever order with JLCPCB. I'm in Canada, so the $5 USD cost of the order was converted to $6.25 CAD. In the past, when ordering things with FedEx, my experience has been that they just dump the item at your doorstep, then they wait 3 weeks and mail you an invoice for their brokerage service, which has a $50+ base fee. So, I never use FedEx if I can avoid it. I picked DHL Express, which cost $19 shipping for my $6 order. The package is now in the country, and DHL have just sent me an invoice for an additional $20 to get it through customs. Surely at $6.25 CAD, this order doesn't even have any customs to be paid. DHL is wanting to be paid over $40 in order to deliver a tiny box with 10 small PCBs valued at $6. Not impressed. If I want to self-clear, I need to deliver documentation by hand and pick up the item from their depot, both of which are near the airport, a half hour drive away. Waiting to hear back if they'll let me do that at this point. :-/
The option I chose this week says FEDEX INTL Priority specifically.
Now FEDEX INTL PRIORITY has all brokerage and customs charges built into the price.
I will be very annoyed if JCL lied about what service they used on my order.
Isn't it obvious that those extra costs are more or less justified? In my opinion the real problem are those poisoned gifts from China meant to ruin western electronics industries. I liked bud's comparison to the price of a hair cut.
My business are medical devices and when i see a finger pulse oximeter (including sensor, display and power supply) for € 10.99 at real.de that makes me angry. These are poisoned gifts as well, since certification as a medical device alone would generate costs more than that. But OK, we should shut up and try to use them to our advantage, just as those fake FFP2 masks.
Regards, Dieter
When the Soviet Union was destroyed, there were many "western teachers" who told us - people who lived in a planned economy, that only competition and only a free market is fair, equitable and ensure development.
When the Soviet Union was destroyed, there were many "western teachers" who told us - people who lived in a planned economy, that only competition and only a free market is fair, equitable and ensure development.Neoliberalist capitalism is also destroying itself with too big monopolistic companies that just buy up every competition and kill it. Stockholders that earn thousand times more money than the persons who do the actual real work which makes the profits and so on. There is a new redistribution of money, power and work needed in this world and we should consume less energy till we have found a good sudtainable energy source. But next day nothing changes.
It's a lie to offer PCBs for $ 6 that in the end cost about $ 50.
It's a lie to call something a pulse oximeter that is not certified as a medical device.
It's a lie to call something a FFP2 mask if the tissue has holes of 100 um or more.
What the Chinese are doing isn't fair competition. It's a lie to offer PCBs for $ 6 that in the end cost about $ 50. It's a lie to call something a pulse oximeter that is not certified as a medical device. It's a lie to call something a FFP2 mask if the tissue has holes of 100 um or more. I think the deeper reason they are trying to do that to all others must be racism and/or nationalism. And people from the west are always so happy if they can save a dollar or two.
Sorry for the rant. For the time being i am still in business.
Regards, Dieter
QuoteIt's a lie to call something a FFP2 mask if the tissue has holes of 100 um or more.Yes, I think so too. The "FFP2" designation specifies a well-defined filtering grade which can't be reached with such large holes.
What the Chinese are doing isn't fair competition. It's a lie to offer PCBs for $ 6 that in the end cost about $ 50. It's a lie to call something a pulse oximeter that is not certified as a medical device. It's a lie to call something a FFP2 mask if the tissue has holes of 100 um or more. I think the deeper reason they are trying to do that to all others must be racism and/or nationalism. And people from the west are always so happy if they can save a dollar or two.
Sorry for the rant. For the time being i am still in business.
Regards, Dieter
QuoteIt's a lie to call something a FFP2 mask if the tissue has holes of 100 um or more.Yes, I think so too. The "FFP2" designation specifies a well-defined filtering grade which can't be reached with such large holes.Both of you apparently do not know how air filters work. It's not like there are small holes which should not pass the particle.