The difference in the URLs is not causing the 502 problem. Those URLs are handled identically by the server.
Sorry to spoil the fun here, but this topic has just cracked the Top 10 list of topics in the public stats. I don't want that to happen for off-topic stuff, it makes the forum look bad.
So the thread is now locked.
There is a "General Chat" section for a reason... to have a place where non-electronics stuff can happen. If you never ever wanted to have your sensitive eyes see anything non-electronics related, then don't click on "General Chat". It's really that simple. If people start making "Does god exist???" threads in the "Metrology" section THEN you have a problem. Until then everyone needs to calm down. No one makes you click every link that exists on the internet. Why make this a special case?
This whole discussion is silly. People who have an interest in electronics also have opinions on other things besides electronics and like to discuss that. That's not interfering with discussions about electronics in any way.
And lets not forget.... Forum posts and page views of ANY KIND get Dave more money..... If an EEVBlog Brexit thread shows up as the #1 google hit for Brexit that would be a HUGE revenue boost. This isn't just a place for us to waste time, this is a business that needs to feed 4 people now.
the final quote from the Brexit Tread:Quote from: EEVblog link=https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/uk-forum-members-brexit/msg984885/#msg984885Sorry to spoil the fun here, but this topic has just cracked the Top 10 list of topics in the public stats. I don't want that to happen for off-topic stuff, it makes the forum look bad.
So the thread is now locked.
I think it's the right decision: The forum has to be mainly about electronics, less about society/economics/politics.
Even if I felt the need to contribute in that topic.
Witch leads to point number2: If I look into my profile, I see too much of my comments are made in "General Chat"
That's not why I'm here, I don't want to be diverted to those topics.
... If an EEVBlog Brexit thread shows up as the #1 google hit for Brexit that would be a HUGE revenue boost. This isn't just a place for us to waste time, this is a business that needs to feed 4 people now.
Although I can see why Dave closed that thread. I was disappointed. I felt it was generally quite civil and I don't believe it attracted many moderation reports.
Like it or not, a lot about brexit is relevant here: it affects funding in science and engineering in the UK and the way other countries do business with the UK.
The problem is that it is well known and understood, what happens, when you have/allow political threads, which are not to be confused with general off-topic threads.
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Therefore a serous moderation capability would be needed. Both in time coverage and resources. This forum (apparently) does not have anything like that sort of capability, and does not seem to want to go down that route. Which is their decision, and fine if that is what they want.
Although I can see why Dave closed that thread. I was disappointed. I felt it was generally quite civil and I don't believe it attracted many moderation reports.Nah. It had run its course and the convo was turning into a circle jerk of how great Sweden is and how they do everything right, etc...QuoteLike it or not, a lot about brexit is relevant here: it affects funding in science and engineering in the UK and the way other countries do business with the UK.
You can always start another thread on brexit perhaps if you find it actually does affect you personally or in your business and not in some notional way like global currency markets throwing a tantrum because they backed the dead cert favourite and got it wrong. You can do this if it's good or bad, but hopefully related to electronics and not partisan politics.
I would think the rule for General Chat should be much like the chats we have at work or perhaps at the pub. Brexit was an issue at the time - worthy of discussion - but we have moved on. If people keep carrying on with that stuff in the office then they are in the "nutter" category.
The Brexit thing is ongoing and continuously changing, so no, it's nowhere near run its course.
I work at a company which does testing, mostly for defence but also commercial sectors and it does get public funding. The UK's decision to leave the EU will affect us. Not immediately but some time in the future. At the moment the political instability in Turkey is more of an issue for us as some of our customers are Turkish.
I would prefer not to start a thread to discuss this, as I prefer to keep my presence here anonymous and don't want to reveal too much about where I work.
Surely there are political forums (or should that be "fora"?) around that those that feel the need to discuss
QuoteSurely there are political forums (or should that be "fora"?) around that those that feel the need to discuss
Sure there are, but the people involved in the discussion here aren't going to up sticks and go over there (registering an account, etc) just to post a pithy two-liner. Just as a bunch of blokes down the pub aren't going to walk over to the council building to bang on about council stuff, and then take as stroll along the river to whine about shopping trollies being tipped in the canal, etc.
Like it or not, this is a community and people tend to discuss all sorts of things with they acquaintances. It is actually like a busy cafe or pub in the science museum. Everyone is there for technical reasons, but they have a diverse range of views on everything.
What you're suggesting is that this place turns into a library - any noise not strictly necessary for the main purpose is forbidden. So instead of people looking forward to coming here to interact with like minded techies and geeks, they will drift to other places where they can have such things and enjoy themselves.
The problems with allowing that isn't that the place gets diluted or that non-techies roll up to discuss mumsnet rubbish, but that the discussions get heated and people fall out, hold grudges, etc. Seems Simon and Dave have a handle on that, so why should there be a problem. As people keep saying, no-one is forcing you to read the stuff (I haven't, and it affects me).
The Brexit thing is ongoing and continuously changing, so no, it's nowhere near run its course.
I work at a company which does testing, mostly for defence but also commercial sectors and it does get public funding. The UK's decision to leave the EU will affect us. Not immediately but some time in the future. At the moment the political instability in Turkey is more of an issue for us as some of our customers are Turkish.
I would prefer not to start a thread to discuss this, as I prefer to keep my presence here anonymous and don't want to reveal too much about where I work.
There is a big difference between saying (hypothetically), the special ultra high frequency, very low noise transistors, which are vital to our product line, and manufactured in Turkey, may become unavailable. Help me please ?
Which is probably fine by Dave's guidelines.
But discussing the possible "troubles/instability" in Turkey, would just be another political thread, with the dangers, as mention by myself and others, of going out of control and might need significant moderation efforts.
I wouldn't object to a separate forum with entry restrictions. but it's not my forum. It should also not be google indexed though.
Well I did suggest moving it to the Supporters' lounge but Dave was concerned that some of those who have posted in it will no longer be able to respond to any criticism aimed at them.
I wouldn't object to a separate forum with entry restrictions. but it's not my forum. It should also not be google indexed though.
In the case the trouble in Turkey effects us because some of our customers might not be able to visit the UK to carry out the test or could even be in prison or dead as a result of the trouble there.
... If an EEVBlog Brexit thread shows up as the #1 google hit for Brexit that would be a HUGE revenue boost. This isn't just a place for us to waste time, this is a business that needs to feed 4 people now.Only complete sellouts would like to see their specialised technical website suddenly get immensely popular for a complete other reason, like politcs, SM bondage, cats with a Hitler moustache, A new TV series, or a Japanese flower contest.
I genuinely believe is was only closed because percentwise it became too havy.
EDAC Electronics spamming the forum, posting the same msg in 7 different categories.
Trying to report this I get "The last topic report from your IP was less than 240 seconds ago. Please try again later."
Yeah right, I'm NOT going to wait 7 *4 minutes to report all msgs...