My Advanced Realistic Humanoid Robots Project

[artbyrobot]

never.  you can eliminate jams and mitigate tears delaying them by careful design and execution.

[artbyrobot]

noisy gear robots are for the tasteless who have low standards and are happy with mediocrity and ugliness prevailing over beauty and excellence.

[artbyrobot]

the same people who think it is okay to build noisy metal gear based robots and pollute the airwaves thereby surely also think it is okay to litter and pollute the earth with their waste so that everyone has to look in dismay at their cans, bottles, and fastfood wraps laying on the ground and filling the gutters and ditches.  It is disgusting.

[joeqsmith]

How do you plan to recycle, or dispose of your projects once they reach their conclusion?   Bury it like all the windmill blades? 

[artbyrobot]

Also as to the speculation that I'll end up using metal gears on the motor AND use Archimedes pulleys, that makes no sense.  Why would I use pulleys at all to downgear if I have decided to use metal gears and already have the noise problem?  At that point I may as well use nothing but gears right?

As to the recycling question, it doesn't really make sense.  Humans produce like 1k pounds of trash a year each right?  I just assume that number might be more I don't know didn't look it up.  So a robot where you spend 10+ years to make it that weights like 100lb that's like 1/10 of 1 years trash by weight spread over 10-20 years making it so 1/10th divided by 20 is 0.5% of my total trash output over 20 year period but that does not include active use life... which would add another 20 years surely... so 0.25% of my total trash over a 40 year period.  AND that is assuming I'd THROW AWAY something that has become a part of the family in some sense like a pet who surely I become attached to like my car I've owned for like 18 years.  And it looking human and acting human would only intensify the bond beyond that of a car that doesn't even talk I imagine.  So the odds I am willing to throw it away are minuscule.  So likely I'd keep it for life.  But in any case, even if I did throw one away, 0.25% of my trash output is all that would represent which is minuscule.  It's folly to compare a little humanoid to giant windmills that are the size of my house and building tens of thousands of them and they only last a relatively short number of years before being trashed.  No comparison.  To even suggest it's similar is arguing in bad faith.  By that logic you should not do electronics because the fiberglass and epoxy on the boards you buy is going to pollute the earth.  You should just play with sticks and leaves instead because they will biodegrade better.

[artbyrobot]

When will see a video demonstrating your superior skills ?
If you spent like 50% less on writing posts here, you might have achieved just some tiny thing in your "groundbreaking design" by now....
We are still eagerly waiting 

I literally posted a animated .gif like a couple days ago.  Somebody is clearly not paying attention.

[artbyrobot]

Also if my robots are half as good as I claim, collectors and/or museums will all be fighting over who gets to have them when I die or decide to retire one from active duty.  So the issue of how to fit them all into landfills like windmills really is a moot point.

And I don't think I'll make all that many of them.  Robots making robots can theoretically scale to quite some numbers, but I am not really interested in selling any of them at any point and I'm not sure I need more than say 20-40 of them tops.  I mean I'd really have to have some kind of grand vision for how to use any beyond that for mass manufacture of my inventions.  Maybe... but man that is even stretching my imagination at that point.  Like what could I do with 500-1000 humanoid robots?  Maybe I'd build my own spaceship and anyone nice to me on EEV blog forum would be invited to visit mars with me and some of my robots like Willy Wanka's golden ticket.

[xrunner]

When will see a video demonstrating your superior skills ?
If you spent like 50% less on writing posts here, you might have achieved just some tiny thing in your "groundbreaking design" by now....
We are still eagerly waiting 

I literally posted a animated .gif like a couple days ago.  Somebody is clearly not paying attention.

No, cgroen said "a video demonstrating your superior skills". He is telling you he hasn't seen such a thing, and neither have I. I have never seen any video here or on your YT account demonstrating "superior skills". As for static pictures, I can say for myself I haven't seen anything demonstrating any superior skills. Superior skills - nope. At most, at the very most, average hobbyist tinkerer skills. At the worst, sloppy workmanship even for a proof of concept design. Especially applies to your last picture, which is really some of the worst work I've seen posted here on this forum. If I ever posted work like that here I'd be roasted so bad by the opinions I'd probably stay away for a week. That is acceptable work for a 10th grade science project, not some PhD wanna-be.

I'm very confident most engineers or competent electronics / mechanical hobbyists asked to take a critical view of that work would scoff at you having any chance of building the robot that you claim you can. I ask any readers viewing this thread "out there" think about it - can you imagine a robot crammed full of this sort of mechanical slap-dash work actually working for more than a few minutes before starting to tangle itself into a mess on the floor?

This is a public forum and we can all post our opinions in the public domain, you should know this by now. Also I'm criticizing your work, not you as a human being. If you ever posted any quality work I'd be happy to say so, but I have no illusions it will happen.

[coromonadalix]

still going and going  and going,   damn energizer rabbit   

[xrunner]

still going and going  and going,   damn energizer rabbit   

The Energizer Bunny is built well, that's why it keeps going and going. This robot won't. 

[joeqsmith]

....  AND that is assuming I'd THROW AWAY something that has become a part of the family in some sense like a pet who surely I become attached to like my car I've owned for like 18 years.  And it looking human and acting human would only intensify the bond beyond that of a car that doesn't even talk I imagine.  So the odds I am willing to throw it away are minuscule.  So likely I'd keep it for life. ....

The burden may very well fall to your family, who is left to clean up your mess once you die.   When that time comes (which will be soon), how are you instructing them to dispose of it?   

I did work on various speech systems back in the day of LPC and the TMS5220.  My VIC 20 computer would talk and so would my car.  It didn't stop me from selling the car.  The VIC 20 is still around though. 
 

[joeqsmith]

When will see a video demonstrating your superior skills ?
If you spent like 50% less on writing posts here, you might have achieved just some tiny thing in your "groundbreaking design" by now....
We are still eagerly waiting 

I literally posted a animated .gif like a couple days ago.  Somebody is clearly not paying attention.

No, cgroen said "a video demonstrating your superior skills". He is telling you he hasn't seen such a thing, and neither have I. I have never seen any video here or on your YT account demonstrating "superior skills". As for static pictures, I can say for myself I haven't seen anything demonstrating any superior skills. Superior skills - nope. At most, at the very most, average hobbyist tinkerer skills. At the worst, sloppy workmanship even for a proof of concept design. Especially applies to your last picture, which is really some of the worst work I've seen posted here on this forum.

So far outside of the drawing they had shown in their video, I tend to agree.   

If I ever posted work like that here I'd be roasted so bad by the opinions I'd probably stay away for a week. That is acceptable work for a 10th grade science project, not some PhD wanna-be. ....

That's why you stopped working on your little Watt meter?  I picked on you too much?   

There's me thinking I was controversial stacking resistors and capacitors to form parallel CR networks, (though that's sometimes gone out to paying customers).

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  I should be clear that the photos I've shown were for internal investigations only.  I've purchased some test equipment and computers that had modifications but not to this extent.   I would be concerned about the reliability, and the labor would far exceed the cost of the new artwork and line setup.  But if I am hunting a problem or want to try something fast, all bets are off.   I have been known to cut entire PCBs up on a band saw and hot gluing sections to another board.   Anything goes.       

[Bud]

A drunk monkey with her left foot would make better drawings than the superior junk the OP keeps posting here.

[xrunner]

That's why you stopped working on your little Watt meter?  I picked on you too much?   

Oh you mean the simple WiFi bar power meter that let's you know if your router is actually radiating anything? Got busy with other things but I might return to it since I got a new router last week. Might be cool to set beside it. 

I picked on you too much?   

Nah Joe you're a pussycat compared to most of the others. 

[joeqsmith]

That's why you stopped working on your little Watt meter?  I picked on you too much?   

Oh you mean the simple WiFi bar power meter that let's you know if your router is actually radiating anything? Got busy with other things but I might return to it since I got a new router last week. Might be cool to set beside it. 

I was thinking about your Bird replacement.  Did you ever get that finished up?   

I picked on you too much?   

Nah Joe you're a pussycat compared to most of the others. 

It's good to know I haven't yet crossed the line yet, and that there is plenty of margin.   

[joeqsmith]

Hold my beer:

I was all impressed that someone from Canada had put such a stack together, but a quick internet search of your photo shows it appears to be the work of a Garth Wilson from Southern CA.   
http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2322&start=30

I have little doubt that what the OP has shown is their actual work.  There's a lot to be said for that, no matter what level they are working at.  MO.

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That's why I can't give Xrunner too hard a time.  It is rare to see ANY ham actually do something.  Stringing up some wire and coax for an antenna is on par with knowing how to plug the radio into the wall socket.   

[xrunner]

I was thinking about your Bird replacement.  Did you ever get that finished up?   

Oh the one I designed around that dual directional coupler I found on Ebay? Yea I sure did. It works really well I have it hooked up to a dual band FM radio now. I turn it on whenever I am using that radio. Well, which isn't often anymore but I do use it.

I think I'll revive that WiFi project - oh I remember I called it a minimalistic WiFi power display. I'll get the box with all the parts out and see where I left off.

But this is all off-topic - back to thumbtacks and 3D printed bones.

[Kim Christensen]

I was all impressed that someone from Canada had put such a stack together, but a quick internet search of your photo shows it appears to be the work of a Garth Wilson from Southern CA.   
http://forum.6502.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2322&start=30

Correct. Though I have stacked old 6116 RAMs and 27 series EPROMs in the past, never that high (2 at most), and that was back in the day of film cameras so I have no pictures documenting it.
Don't know what being from Canada has to do with it though? 

[Xena E]

Don't know what being from Canada has to do with it though? 

Jealousy?
 
 

[joeqsmith]

Don't know what being from Canada has to do with it though? 

Jealousy?
 
 

Nah, their long winters would cut into my motorcycle riding.     

[artbyrobot]

That is acceptable work for a 10th grade science project

What is actually wrong with it?  You are not saying anything specific that causes you to find it to be anything less than perfection which to me it clearly is and I find it shocking you think otherwise.  It is SOLID, robust, expertly crafted to perfection.

[artbyrobot]

The burden may very well fall to your family, who is left to clean up your mess once you die.   When that time comes (which will be soon), how are you instructing them to dispose of it?   

I may very possibly live another 70 years so how is that dying soon?  Are you assuming I'm over 100 years old here?  Or are you saying you think I have severe fatal health problems?  In any case, I would be disappointed if my family disposed of my robots or my other stuff because it would be better they maintain them or rather just continue to let them maintain themselves as they are supposed to do just that.  And so my family will potentially be able to literally sit in a lawn chair sipping lemonade the rest of their lives while the robots run the house and make all the money and give them back massages.  Sounds very burdensome to them *end sarcasm* .  You act that that sounds like a hard life.  It's not.

[xrunner]

That is acceptable work for a 10th grade science project

First off I want people to understand this is my opinion and they can post their opinions as well.

What is actually wrong with it?  You are not saying anything specific that causes you to find it to be anything less than perfection which to me it clearly is and I find it shocking you think otherwise.  It is SOLID, robust, expertly crafted to perfection.

I find it shocking that you find what I said shocking. All I can go on is looking at what you have shown in a picture as I have no way to examine or test it. But I do have a quarter century working in the aerospace industry and I've looked at a whole lot of projects built by a lot of talented engineers. And a lot of them were prototype projects. I know what well built assemblies look like.

That being said it's looks like a 10th grade student built it. Everything about the quality of work is shoddy that I see, and that's all I can go on. But the pulleys, the way they sit on top tilted, the way the tube is affixed, the whole thing is terrible looking. Maybe it functions somewhat but you really need to understand something. You don't have to build a prototype as good looking as the final product, but it still needs to be built so that any deficiencies in functionality are not the fault of shoddy workmanship or you will have trouble finding out what is really causing any problems - poor workmanship or poor design. IMHO you can't be sure that mess is going to give you proper insights into whether it will really be the right design.

Look man, you don't take kindly to criticism so you'll just ignore what I say, but I stand by what it looks like to my eyes, and I don't see any way possible you will make what you want building that kind of stuff. Since you know better than anyone else just build the robot and prove me wrong. I find it amazing that you think that is design perfection.

 

[artbyrobot]

Actually, I know of nobody in my friends and family that are physically capable of making the pulley system I made.  The tolerances between the pulleys are close to 1/10 mm accuracy and sometimes one disc is only about that distance from the next.  I know of nobody in my life that can craft anything with that level of precision, let alone come up with thumb tacks and fishing crimp sleeves as a solution to mount it all on a motor.  You look at other makers and there idea of downgearing is a 3d printed downgear they got off some 3d print file sharing site and the gearbox they print is about 6-10 times the size of the motor itself.  It's a JOKE.  Show me who is hand crafting gears at this scale with this level of precision.  I have NEVER seen it.  Hoo's Mini World on youtube is on this level skill wise but doesn't do anything engineering related but his precision and tiny scaling is at my level skill wise. 

And the loud mouths saying this is low skill tier, lets see you make similar.  I won't expect it to be even close to my level, but lets see you make it function even.  I HIGHLY doubt you can.  Most of you guys complain it's too hard to hand solder SMD right?  This is several orders of magnitude harder that soldering smd. 

[xrunner]

And the loud mouths saying this is low skill tier, lets see you make similar.  I won't expect it to be even close to my level, but lets see you make it function even.  I HIGHLY doubt you can.  Most of you guys complain it's too hard to hand solder SMD right?  This is several orders of magnitude harder that soldering smd.

 

Let me find where my pics are that I documented making some of the tiny items for my model RR. Some of the tiny street lights with SMD LEDs I completely hand-made would blow whatever you can do out of the water.