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[tszaboo]

Process Time(GMT+8)
Final Inspection and Packing 2017-11-19T14:30:31.01
Profiling 2017-11-19T09:11:23.627
Testing 2017-11-19T07:55:52.44
Surface Finishing 2017-11-19T07:54:22.76
Silk Screen 2017-11-19T05:18:44.447
Solder Mask Positioning Inspection 2017-11-19T05:17:55.923
Solder Mask 2017-11-19T02:18:33.547
Etching Inspection 2017-11-19T02:06:50.457
Etching 2017-11-19T01:32:11.58
Dry Film Circuit Inspection 2017-11-19T01:24:00.5
Dry Film Coating 2017-11-18T21:55:23.313
Panel Plating 2017-11-18T20:47:08.817
Conducting Filming 2017-11-18T19:27:00.473
First Drilling 2017-11-18T17:45:05.797
Cutting 2017-11-18T17:29:14.527

I believe it is a little bit overkill to tell the time down to the millisecond, but whatever.

[sleemanj]

Heh, can't say I didn't try with the below board.  Note no silk lines, no copper lines, no nothing except a few "fiducials" to separate the pcbs in this diy panel (and yes it was green, my render is red)

Submitted as a $5 100x100 job, price updated to .. wait for it... $57, yeah, not so much.

I could send this to Dirty (and might well), and have it tab-bite routed if I have enough space for less than half that.

[mrpackethead]

how did you intend to cut it up.

I woudl just get them to make you 10 of each board for $5 each. Seems pretty resonable.

[phil from seattle]

It's the duplication of part numbers that I'm sure they zeroed in on.

Back in the day when PCBs were expensive I would do that sort of thing but with $5 ($5.49 w/paypal) for 10 boards delivered, I couldn't be bothered to try and sneak it past them. Based on your image, there are 4 different designs - that's $21.96 for 10 boards each.

[sleemanj]

how did you intend to cut it up.

Carbide Tipped Laminate Cutter works well for DIY scoring, available from Bunnings etc



I am no stranger to cutting PCBs.

I woudl just get them to make you 10 of each board for $5 each. Seems pretty resonable.

You underestimate my miserliness

[Fire Doger]

For reference, in a project I had some spare space on PCB and decided to form a little box with it.
I did them on PCBWay without extra cost. Line Cutouts are actually very long pads and I tried to leave a solid square outline so they can process them as any other square PCB. Plus there is a solid ground plane under everything. PCBway's support told me that if its somehow connected (even with a thin track between planes) its counted as the same design. I guess something similar works to AllPCB too.

[sleemanj]

Yes I did think about connecting them all somehow but I could not easily do so given I used gerbmerge to assemble the panel, asembling manually in DipTrace is too much of a pain.  Maybe I will think about some way  to put in a fake connecting trace in gerbmerge in future, probably only needs ability to specify one straight horizontal/vertical line on top/bottom from a given point (connecting a trace) on one edge of each pcb into the gutter, I already added the ability to put copper borders in the gutters which would look like ground plane if they were connected... hmmmm....

Anyway, I sent a tab route version created with thisisnotrocketscience's panelizer (with another couple boards squeezed in) to dirty, 24.95, admittedly slow mail.  But even dhl still would have been cheaper, but it will probably sit on my desk for 6 months before I actually use them anyway knowing me.

[rob.manderson]

I just got an order from AllPCB (my fourth as it happens).  Placed this order on Thursday afternoon (Dec 14) and received the completed boards this afternoon (Dec 18).  10 of them for the grand sum of $5.49 with the free DHL shipping.

And lest someone accuse me of shilling for AllPCB I won't even be drawing their attention to this post.  Here's the board.

What is it?  It's an AM receiver.  There's an Arduino Nano V3 board controlling an si5351 synthesizer for the LO,  an SA602 input mixer and a two stage IF driving another SA602 synchronous demodulator.  The sync carrier is derived from the IF via a single stage transistor overdriving an LM311 comparator.

Yep, I could probably find all of that on a single chip somewhere but the challenge is to make it all work!

[phil from seattle]

Same thing happened to me - put in on the 14th. today the big yellow truck drove up to my house.  4 day turn around.  I still am in awe of this.  Even with 7 day turn around which is more typical, it's incredible.

[rob.manderson]

Same thing happened to me - put in on the 14th. today the big yellow truck drove up to my house.  4 day turn around.  I still am in awe of this.  Even with 7 day turn around which is more typical, it's incredible.

You and me both! 

[up8051]

Free shipping still available but PCB price grow up 100mmx100mm 10pcs = 20USD 
PCD lead free version grow up to 35 USD.
So currently the offer is not very attractive.

Regads,
up8051

[ataradov]

So currently the offer is not very attractive.

Holly shit. They are also playing jingle bells on their site. This is retarded.

[asmi]

Free shipping still available but PCB price grow up 100mmx100mm 10pcs = 20USD 
PCD lead free version grow up to 35 USD.
So currently the offer is not very attractive.

Regads,
up8051

Now $5 is only for 5x5 cm boards. Looks like they've decided to hide shipping costs in the price of the board. Do they really think engineers are that stupid as to not see through this?

[ataradov]

Now $5 is only for 5x5 cm boards.

$5 for 5pcs, $10 for 10 pcs.

Do they really think engineers are that stupid as to not see through this?

I don't see why they would care, it is still a better deal than most other options, especially considering the manufacturing time.

[mrpackethead]

And i'm quite impressed with their care on checking gerbers..  They somtimes find things that are unusual, and come back and ask.   

[sleemanj]

Now $5 is only for 5x5 cm boards. Looks like they've decided to hide shipping costs in the price of the board.

To be fair, it's free DHL shipping.  $10 for 10 50x50 pcbs including DHL is still stupidly cheap, either they have an obscenely good deal with their local DHL agent (or ... something), or they are still losing money or at best breaking even at that rate.

DHL shipping would be around $20 USD alone most places I think.

[up8051]

5cmx5cm is to small for most of my projects  also I prefer lead-free PCB (EU country) so have to return to elecrow or easyeda.

[soubitos]

who is going to check about lead free on pcb's entering the EU? I would only worry about it on a production run and even then....

[asmi]

also I prefer lead-free PCB (EU country) so have to return to elecrow or easyeda.

Unless you're selling these boards (as part of some product) no one is going to care if it's lead free or not.

[asmi]

To be fair, it's free DHL shipping.  $10 for 10 50x50 pcbs including DHL is still stupidly cheap, either they have an obscenely good deal with their local DHL agent (or ... something), or they are still losing money or at best breaking even at that rate.

5x5 cm is just too small, and they used to make 10x10 cm for the same price, so it's definitely is a price hike. Not that I care about this too much - I've been mostly ordering stencils from them lately.

DHL shipping would be around $20 USD alone most places I think.

The problem is that when shipping is paid separately, you can pool your boards and order several of them in one go to spread shipping cost across several designs. While if it's factored into the price of the product, you can't really do that. So given these two choices I'd take separate shipping any day. And I think this is good practice in general because it's makes for more transparent pricing where you can see what costs what.

[Mr. Scram]

50X50 is too small indeed. That's unfortunate. It's a 400% price hike.

I guess we knew it couldn't last.

[asmi]

I guess we knew it couldn't last.

I agree, but I was expecting them to just announce an end of the special offer and revert back to the way things were before. I'd be totally OK with that.

[mrpackethead]

It appears that they have changed their FR4 too.. they now only offer FR-4?ShengYi Tg140?. It used to be TG130 material.

This starts messign with designs.  if you have done high speed stuff.

[soubitos]

Offering free shipping is never EVER free... I placed and order which i am expecting to receive via registered mail. DHL is not a viable option for me. Registered mail is cheaper though.....

[NorthGuy]

Offering free shipping is never EVER free... I placed and order which i am expecting to receive via registered mail. DHL is not a viable option for me. Registered mail is cheaper though.....

DHL doesn't work for me neither. And "HK mail" may take several months. I believe the Canadian government slows down the shipments from China on purpose. ePackets worked Ok recently, but you cannot select ePacket in their form.