DS2000A Upgrade Utility

[Willi100]

Hello,
I did the full upgrade and it worked fine. (Software before: 00.02.00 - after: 00.02.01)
But I lost the accurate voltage measurement.
Before upgrade I checked the RMS voltage precision at different frequencies.

Example:
Test Signal: 1 MHz Sinus with 0dBm = 224mV RMS
Measured with: Boonton RF- Millivoltmeter 92E = 224mV RMS
Measured with: DS2072A before upgrade = 224mV RMS (@500ns)
Measured with: DS2072A after upgrade = 227mV RMS (@500ns)
Than I let run a Self Calibration. After that I measured : 233mV RMS
The calibration did not help. The calibration makes it worse. 

Test gear:
Signal Generator IFR2023B
TRUE RMS  RF Level Meter RACAL DANA 9303
BOONTON RF Millivoltmeter 92E

Willi

[Willi100]

Hello,
here the Frequency Response: DS2072A (Hardware version:2.0)  70MHz and upgrade to 300 MHz.
(Measured with 50 Ohm termination)

I measured RMS level at 18 frequency points with my True RMS Level Meter and with the Oscilloscope by hand.
For calculation and graphic I used Excel.

Willi

Used test gear:
Signal Generator IFR2023B
TRUE RMS  RF Level Meter RACAL DANA 9303
BOONTON RF Millivoltmeter 92E

[QuantumPhys]

Teneyes,

To answer your questions:
Yes there are trials enabled - I will take a shot and send it if you need that. Just let me know.
1. Yes I have done that. Only the "single" light is lit.
2. Just like adi101 said, as soon as you insert a USB (containing only the DS2000Update.GEL) the CH1 lights for just a moment (not what I'd call flashing) and then ALL of the other lights are lit solid.
3. I have tried re-inserting the USB stick and I have tried numerous different keys. No change in the symptoms. I have also left the key inserted for a "long time" (5-10mins). Again no change. I have retried the sequence 10+ times. No change.

I have tried 7 different keys now from really old 1GB devices, several 4GB and a couple modern 8GB devices. I have tested all of these USB keys using the file browser in the "storage" menu with the scope booted normally and all of the USB's seem to work fine, but I have not been able to install the older firmware's from any of them using the "help" bootloader technique.

I am keen to try out anything that you might need to get to the bottom of this.

Thanks.

Sorry if this has been answered, but I too am having the exact same issue with all the lights lighting up and no reaction afterwards when I plug in the USB stick. I am using 00.03.00.SP1 (factory installed). Is there any solution to this problem yet?

[airs]

Just tried this utility and it worked perfectly the first time. One thing to note is you need to be patient when CH1 is flashing - the FW update took quite a while for me (5 minutes?)

Btw, my unit came with Software: 00.03.00.SP1 and Hardware: 2.0

I used a 8GB USB 2.0 Kingston Data Traveler stick, formatted as FAT32 with Default Allocation Size. It had nothing on it other than the .GEL file.

Thank you so much for this!!

[Gandalf_Sr]

I need the I2C/SPI protocol analysis function.  I was considering buying a DS2072A and doing this upgrade but I can see a lot of hits on the Internet saying there are decode bugs with SPI/I2C/UART on Rigol scopes.

Can anyone confirm or deny the existence of this problem or point me to more info?

[marmad]

I need the I2C/SPI protocol analysis function.  I was considering buying a DS2072A and doing this upgrade but I can see a lot of hits on the Internet saying there are decode bugs with SPI/I2C/UART on Rigol scopes.

Can anyone confirm or deny the existence of this problem or point me to more info?

I've used the I2C protocol decoding regularly with no problems (I can't speak about the SPI or UART since I haven't used them). It's certainly not a full-featured logic analyzer (but neither is any MSO I've tried), but it does what it says it does - and with the latest FW, it finally does protocol decoding on recorded segments too.

And I wouldn't lump all Rigol scopes together - from what I understand (at the moment), except for the protocols which normally really require more than 2 channels, the protocol decoding is best implemented on the DS2000 series.

[Teneyes]

I need the I2C/SPI protocol analysis function.  I was considering buying a DS2072A and doing this upgrade but I can see a lot of hits on the Internet saying there are decode bugs with SPI/I2C/UART on Rigol scopes.

We did find a bug in RS 232 decoding (was using 56000 instead of 56kb= 57600), but that was corrected.  I also tested  the CAN protocol decode to be good. And decoding of recorded data was corrected in FW 00.03...... .

[JAmerican]

Just tried this utility and it worked perfectly the first time. One thing to note is you need to be patient when CH1 is flashing - the FW update took quite a while for me (5 minutes?)

Btw, my unit came with Software: 00.03.00.SP1 and Hardware: 2.0

I used a 8GB USB 2.0 Kingston Data Traveler stick, formatted as FAT32 with Default Allocation Size. It had nothing on it other than the .GEL file.

Thank you so much for this!!

I agree with you. I just received mine end of July 2014 and it had 00.03.00.SP1 on it. I thought I would be banned from using the utility. I used the utility and flashed the custom firmware as per the instructions. It took a few minutes and when it was done, some of the lights turned on.

I used a 2GB USB stick with the FAT32 format and Default Allocation Size (named the volume DSO). I had taken a screenshot from the Rigol before flashing it to see if it would save to the USB stick before using it to flash the firmware.

After the flash to the custom firmware, I had version 00.02.00. I was able to unlock all options and get 300MHz using the utility. Once I was done, I went back to my original 00.03.00.SP1 firmware.

Some people mentioned that their measurements were out of calibration. I had this issue when I downgraded with the custom firmware but once I returned to my original firmware, my scope's voltage offset issues  were fixed. I think the issue was that people were testing in the firmware that they downgraded to. You need to return to the firmware you originally had on your scope and then test from there.

I did not self-calibrate during this whole process.

I'm very happy with the results. 

[conte_vlad]

  very good. What hardware version has your scope? 2.0 or 2.2? let us know (it is displayed on scope just after firmware version)

[JAmerican]

very good. What hardware version has your scope? 2.0 or 2.2? let us know (it is displayed on scope just after firmware version)

I have HW ver. 2.0. Didn't know there was a 2.2 version.

[Quark]

I'd like to report another successful upgrade using the utility.

Model: DS2072A (arrived today)
SW: 00.03.00.SP1 (00.03.00.01.03)
HW: 2.0 (1.0.2.0.2)

Used the portable version since I had all dependencies already installed.
Made sure USB and flash drive worked beforehand by taking screen snapshots of above info.
Re-flashed the original FW at the end of the process.

All went without a hitch.
Many thanks to all involved!! 

[BER546]

Thanks for the sharing !
Very helpful!

[PepeK]

I'd like to report another successful upgrade using the utility.

Model: DS2072A (arrived today)
SW: 00.03.00.SP1 (00.03.00.01.03)
HW: 2.0 (1.0.2.0.2)

It seems, people report successful upgrade using the utility only if HW version is 2.0 and not 2.2.
For HW 2.2, JTAG way works.
SW version is  00.03.00.SP1 in both cases.

[Gandalf_Sr]

I'm going to attempt the JTAG route on my new MSO2072A, the fleaBay e-cheapo $6 'Altera USB Blaster' JTAG interface that I ordered Aug 5th is now marked as 'Out for Delivery' via the USPS tracking system; ordered from a vendor claiming to be shipping from Colorado but now I'm wondering if there's a place called Colorado in China?

I have a Dell Netbook that has Ubuntu installed so I'm going to try that first.

Wish me luck 

[Dorfteich]

Hi,
i plan to buy a DS2072A in Germany, work the Upgrade Ulility with the Hardware 2.2 Version too?
When i order the DSO, come the Hardwareversion 2.0 or 2.2?
many thanks for info's.

[PepeK]

Hi,
i plan to buy a DS2072A in Germany, work the Upgrade Ulility with the Hardware 2.2 Version too?
When i order the DSO, come the Hardwareversion 2.0 or 2.2?
many thanks for info's.

Yes, there are people reporting success on SW 3.0.SP1 and HW 2.2. My scope was bought in July 2014, it is MSO and has HW 2.2.
Do you mean MSO ?

[Dorfteich]

Hello PepeK,

i mean the DS2072A , and if it is the HW Version 2.2, have you a complete howTo to make the full-Update?
I am not so fit in this stuff and before i buy the DS2072A, i will have all infos to make the hack.

best regarts.

[213pye]

Last week i got my ds2072a. SW .3,.SP1 HW 2.0.
No problems with the upgrade utility!! 20 mintes and it has 300Mhz and all option free!.
* Gekauft beim großen blauen "C" *

[Dorfteich]

Hi all,
please see my post: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/unlockinghacking-the-rigol-ds2000a-series-scope-the-short-post/msg500624/#msg500624
thanks

[Gandalf_Sr]

I've been battling the JTAG dump route for 2 or 3 weeks now.  Quick question, will this work for MSO2072A?  Has anyone tried yet?

[Dorfteich]

When i put the stick in normal DSO Modus with the same Firmware, will i see this
in the picture. It's the FW older, i see not this text in the scope.
Any ideas?

[PepeK]

When i put the stick in normal DSO Modus with the same Firmware, will i see this
in the picture. It's the FW older, i see not this text in the scope.
Any ideas?

It means, the scope recognizes the GEL file's version info. Of course, you have the latest and it is why you see that message. All newly manufactured scopes are protected against a firmware downgrade, it is why you see nothing (as hacking GEL files is version 2.0).

It is time to JTAG dump ...

[RLSprouse]

Hi all:

Brand new at scopes, just received my DS2072A-S.  I'm very interested in this upgrade but a bit scared.  My unit arrived with Firmware 00.02.01.00.03 installed, and from this thread I get the feeling I should be glad it does not have the newer version.  I have a few questions.

1. Since mine is the -S version, does this present any difficulties?  I imagine the firmware is the same but I'd like to know if anyone has done this with the -S version successfully.

2. I am running on an iMac 27" system.  I do have Parallels installed and can run Windows 8.  Any reason this won't work?  I do have an old PC I could resort to, but haven't fired it up in about a year.

3. Is there anything illegal about this?  I don't recall approving any user licenses when I started up my scope, but I'm curious about the legalities.

Thanks for any encouragement you all can offer.


Edited to add:

OK, I got brave and gave it a try...  everything seemed to work fine, up to the point where you plug the scope into the computer.  The scope does not show up on the select screen.  And yes, I did make sure USB Devices is set to "Computer" on the scope's Utility menu.

I feel like I am so close, yet so far...  Any ideas, anyone?


Second update:  I fired up my old PC and tried the update there.  Again, the update utility does not see the scope when I plug it in.  Please help!

[RLSprouse]

BTO, in his "Short Post" suggested plugging the scope into the computer using the FRONT USB port on the scope...  but, is that possible?  It is a USB - A port, and all the USB cables I have are USB - A to USB - B.  Can I get an A-A USB cable, and will that work?

  ~ Russ 

[JDubU]

...
Second update:  I fired up my old PC and tried the update there.  Again, the update utility does not see the scope when I plug it in.  Please help!

You can connect either through the USB port on the back of the scope or via the Ethernet port connected to a network.

Did you install the National Instruments IVI/VISA driver?
Are you able to see the scope with the Rigol Ultra Sigma utility?