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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1425 on: November 30, 2019, 09:42:52 pm »
As long as the current fw. version 01.01.04.08 is available from Rigol site, the procedure for patching is simple .
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Thank you for recap, this worked really well, it's really as simple as that. Applied on MSO5074 01.01.04.04 factory firmware.
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1426 on: December 01, 2019, 10:07:00 am »
Another happy user of the path, Thank you very much

But no ssh available to take a look on files, who needs since everything is hacked as expected
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1427 on: December 03, 2019, 11:27:49 pm »
But no ssh available to take a look on files, who needs since everything is hacked as expected

You can still use mabls SSH patch to get temporary access (until the scope is rebooted). Login, password, etc. is the same.
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1428 on: December 04, 2019, 01:37:01 am »
Yep.. :(
I´ve asked again on october 29th, answer was sorry for delaying but it should happen "soon".....

Looks like Rigol has a very loose definition of "soon" regarding release of new FW. My biggest concern with buying this scope without updated FW is the trigger over shoot bug. It seems that some have performed a calibration to get around the problem, but it isn't clear to me if that is just masking the issue. I know I would feel a lot better about buying this scope if I knew for sure that bug wasn't going to exist out of the box.
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1429 on: December 04, 2019, 08:10:53 am »
soon in China is same as never
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1430 on: December 04, 2019, 08:33:21 am »
........................My biggest concern with buying this scope without updated FW is the trigger over shoot bug................................
What trigger overshoot bug ?
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1431 on: December 04, 2019, 01:45:28 pm »
The one Dave identify in his initial review video of the scope.  This post and the 3 after it discuss the problem and a "fix" that seems to work for some users.
« Last Edit: December 05, 2019, 05:24:35 am by typoknig »
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1432 on: December 05, 2019, 09:29:51 am »
I don't think it's a widespread problem.
I bought mine in April 2019, so I have HW 1.00 with FW 01.01.04.04.
I never performed a sw calibration, just powered my scope, probe calibration and I have no over/undershoot issue.

 
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1433 on: December 05, 2019, 11:47:15 am »
Same here, no overshoot at all running .08 firmware.

Martin 72 has Boris given you any indication of when the 5000 FW is going to updated at all?
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1434 on: December 05, 2019, 01:54:40 pm »
The one Dave identify in his initial review video of the scope.  This post and the 3 after it discuss the problem and a "fix" that seems to work for some users.
What does that have to do with triggering?
It is a pulse response overshoot, and it is not widespread problem it seems.
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1435 on: December 05, 2019, 06:29:10 pm »
Hi,

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Martin 72 has Boris given you any indication of when the 5000 FW is going to updated at all?

In short form he "told" me "in a couple of days (at last) " .
This was on Nov26th.

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1436 on: December 06, 2019, 12:38:28 am »
The 8000 has landed will report back over the weekend

I suspect now the 8000 is moving the 5000 fw upgrade will not be long now
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1437 on: December 06, 2019, 10:34:01 am »
Mine is a new unit, and does not show this problem
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1438 on: December 06, 2019, 09:59:10 pm »
Mine is the "very old" unit (bought in Nov. 2018) and never had any issues at all... ;)
Apart from this, the overshoot issue is a real problem rigol.eu once confirmed to me.

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I suspect now the 8000 is moving the 5000 fw upgrade will not be long now

Boris wrote me it will last a couple of days - this was nearly 2 weeks ago.
I won´t blame him for this, he´s depended from what rigol says to their distribution quarters.



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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1439 on: December 06, 2019, 11:07:16 pm »
Do not think it will be long now before the FW is released
 
The 8000 has some very slick operations compared to the 5000 and 7000 models, nice colour change for the input screens and pretty close to 1.4Ghz with 245ps rise time (currently)

Feels a very different animal to the previous two Phoenix chip-set models.

If they (Rigol) can incorporate some of the 8000's slick gui updates then it will make a lot of you guys very happy.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2019, 11:10:05 pm by Sighound36 »
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1440 on: December 07, 2019, 07:08:40 pm »
Sighound36 was kind enough to loan me his time and new purchase so that I could try some model changes...  :popcorn:

 
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1441 on: December 08, 2019, 01:33:51 pm »
Sighound36 was kind enough to loan me his time and new purchase so that I could try some model changes...  :popcorn:

Wow, that was quick...  8)
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1442 on: December 09, 2019, 08:00:10 pm »
Apologies new thread started for the MSO8000

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-mso-8000/
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1443 on: December 09, 2019, 08:16:43 pm »
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More to come later in the week.

And maybe in a new thread ?

 
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1444 on: December 10, 2019, 01:46:47 am »
I just received a Rigol DS7014 scope with 01.01.06.00 firmware. I used Putty to open start.sh, but cannot find the place to insert the -fullopt keyword, as there is no appEntry text in the entire script. I'm not a big Linux guy, so any and all help will be appreciated. Thanks!
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1445 on: December 10, 2019, 01:49:14 am »
Then rigol has new firmware?
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1446 on: December 10, 2019, 01:56:19 am »
All I see in the firmware release notes for the DS7000 are firmware versions v00.01.01.05.09 dated 2018/05/03, and v00.01.01.07.01 dated 2018/07/10. There is no mention of 00.01.01.06.00. Strange.
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1447 on: December 10, 2019, 05:02:04 am »
A few questions about my DS7014:

Does the appEntry hack survive firmware upgrades?
Is it possible to downgrade the firmware to 01.01.04 from 01.01.06?
If so, where can I find a copy of the 01.01.04 firmware?

Thanks!
 

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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1448 on: December 10, 2019, 06:33:41 pm »
A few questions about my DS7014:

Does the appEntry hack survive firmware upgrades?
Is it possible to downgrade the firmware to 01.01.04 from 01.01.06?
If so, where can I find a copy of the 01.01.04 firmware?

Thanks!

Start a new thread.
 
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Re: Hacking the Rigol MSO5000 series oscilloscopes
« Reply #1449 on: December 12, 2019, 06:35:01 pm »
Hi,

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Martin 72 has Boris given you any indication of when the 5000 FW is going to updated at all?

In short form he "told" me "in a couple of days (at last) " .
This was on Nov26th.

Asked today again, the launch date will be postponed until the end of january..  :palm:  :--


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