NEW 100MHz Keysight Scope Release on 1st March 2017

[tautech]

US mains voltages are less challenging than most of the rest of the world. Hence a preference for 400V input rated DSO's. 

IMHO you are making a way too big deal out of this. When measuring mains like voltages you won't be using a standard 1:1 / 1:10 probe but a differential probe (if you are sane).

Well you don't sell scopes and like any seller I have NO IDEA of the expertise of a buyer not to make a simple FUB economic repair mistake by using 1:1 probes on elevated voltages that might make any product look bad. The first criteria I had for selecting a brand to sell was 400V rated inputs. 
Result to date....no input damage of scopes I've sold. 
If selecting a scope for myself with the experience I've gained, this criteria would matter less.

Hunt though the forum for scope repairs with damaged inputs, there's been a good few over the years. 
How does this happen......elevated voltages.

[nctnico]

I'd take the opportunity to sell (safe) differential probes along with the oscilloscope! At least a differential probe won't cause damage with whatever input voltage including when the scope has the 50 Ohm inputs enabled.

[mikeselectricstuff]

I always use a x100 probe for anything I wouldn't stick my finger on.

[tautech]

I'd take the opportunity to sell (safe) differential probes along with the oscilloscope! At least a differential probe won't cause damage with whatever input voltage including when the scope has the 50 Ohm inputs enabled.

And what would make you think I don't stock those too ? 

[EEVblog]

I'll be selling a new model high voltage differential probe very soon. The new custom EEVblog front panel looks pretty slick 

[skylinrcr01]

More and more universities in Europe are turning to Rigol gear for their labs.

The golden years where Tektronix used to have a monopoly position in academic latitudes are long gone.

And I am convinced that the TBS series with poor specs isn't going to change anything about that.

Rigol ended up getting my universities (cal state Long Beach) business. Can't beat them for the price. (before that they had ancient busted up Tek scopes)

[benst]

I'll be selling a new model high voltage differential probe very soon.

Just what I'm looking for! 

[nctnico]

I'll be selling a new model high voltage differential probe very soon. The new custom EEVblog front panel looks pretty slick 

Price? I got another Pintek for a very nice price a couple of months ago when they where on sale from a store in the UK. Do we have to care about the front panel? What is inside is what counts 

[EEVblog]

For the aged, we did not have switchables, only fixed and you're quite correct switchables are very convenient BUT and big BUT one must be very careful in their use. In the case of this KS using 1:1 probes it could be easy to damage an input with too much voltage applied. US mains voltages are less challenging than most of the rest of the world.
Hence a preference for 400V input rated DSO's. 

Only a fool uses their scope to measure the mains directly.

[EEVblog]

I'll be selling a new model high voltage differential probe very soon. The new custom EEVblog front panel looks pretty slick 

Price?

Let's just say much higher bandwidth for the same price as everyone else charges for 25MHz.

[snoopy]

Anyway getting back to this Keysight scope I just want to say that this new scope has the look and feel of their more expensive scopes rather than being another me too ebay special. This was a good strategy from their marketing department. I think they will do well with this scope but it may have trouble competing with a fully optioned up 4 channel Rigol. However the bode plotting facility maybe the deal breaker for people looking at a Rigol particularly for educational institutions and this is what the marketing department probably had in mind We will have to see it put through its paces to see what else it can and can't do

cheers

[EEVblog]

I think they will do well with this scope but it may have trouble competing with a fully optioned up 4 channel Rigol.

If the new Keysight gets hacked then it's a different ballgame.
But as always, 2CH vs 4CH on some level is not comparing apples with apples.

[TheSteve]

I think they will do well with this scope but it may have trouble competing with a fully optioned up 4 channel Rigol.

If the new Keysight gets hacked then it's a different ballgame.
But as always, 2CH vs 4CH on some level is not comparing apples with apples.

I don't recall seeing the back of the scope. Can you confirm it has a network port built in?

[Monkeh]

I think they will do well with this scope but it may have trouble competing with a fully optioned up 4 channel Rigol.

If the new Keysight gets hacked then it's a different ballgame.
But as always, 2CH vs 4CH on some level is not comparing apples with apples.

I don't recall seeing the back of the scope. Can you confirm it has a network port built in?

The spec sheet makes it fairly clear it doesn't. I wouldn't expect the bottom end product to have ethernet, anyway.

It has USB.

[wblackledg]

Thanks Dave!

[TheSteve]

I think they will do well with this scope but it may have trouble competing with a fully optioned up 4 channel Rigol.

If the new Keysight gets hacked then it's a different ballgame.
But as always, 2CH vs 4CH on some level is not comparing apples with apples.

I don't recall seeing the back of the scope. Can you confirm it has a network port built in?

The spec sheet makes it fairly clear it doesn't. I wouldn't expect the bottom end product to have ethernet, anyway.

It has USB.

I thought the new Tek had ethernet standard - so I figured it might just have it. It is many years newer then the 2000X/3000X series, ethernet should be standard on all products at this point.

Much tougher to even try hacking it without ethernet...

[WackyGerman]

For the aged, we did not have switchables, only fixed and you're quite correct switchables are very convenient BUT and big BUT one must be very careful in their use. In the case of this KS using 1:1 probes it could be easy to damage an input with too much voltage applied. US mains voltages are less challenging than most of the rest of the world.
Hence a preference for 400V input rated DSO's. 

Only a fool uses their scope to measure the mains directly.

Well I am asking why they want to measure mains with an oscilloscope . If you do it , you will see a distorted sine wave and that s it 

[ebastler]

If priced right, it could compete in the marker/hobby market.  But, even if priced >= 1054z, it's still cheaper than the 2000X series that advance labs choose over the 1000, save on the AWG and bench space. 

You mean, pricing it "right" would be below the DS1054Z?!
Hmm, I'm afraid you will be disappointed...

Well, just 10 more days and we should know about the missing key "spec" of Keysight's new entry model!

[SimonD]

What is the screen size and resolution Dave (looks like something 8" and 800x480 pixels ?)

[Monkeh]

What is the screen size and resolution Dave (looks like something 8" and 800x480 pixels ?)

The full spec sheet is on the third page..

[xs4hkr]

I want one 

[ebastler]

I want one 

For free? (me too...)
At Keysight's price yet unknown?
At any cost? 

[marshaul]

I know lots of people get lots of cool stuff dumpster diving, but that is ONE hell of a building you work in, Dave. I'd think a single o-scope was an absolutely killer find, but 5 of them?

I'm genuinely curious what would lead to 5 brand new scopes being thrown out? Test models provided under contract? Or what?

Also, does this thread count for the drawing? I actually could use a fancy new DSO, I'm still using my crappy USB scope at home.

[kcbrown]

My guess is that the dumpster is where the postal service delivers all his mail.   

[jjoonathan]

It's a long-running joke. They weren't actually found in a dumpster.