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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2000 on: August 25, 2021, 05:15:08 am »
I downgraded to SDS1xx4X-E_6.1.35R2_EN and wifi is working again.

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I guess I will hold off updating then as I purchased this model based back in 2019 (TL-WN725N).
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008IFXQFU/

So you are running the newer OS on the .35R2 firmware?


Yes, I did the OS update first and the the FW update.
Result: WIFI does not work.

I then downgraded the FW to SDS1xx4X-E_6.1.35R2_EN
Result: WIFI works again.

A "creative way" to solve the SSID issue in the new FW :palm:

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2001 on: August 25, 2021, 05:52:53 am »
What are labels?
New feature to label traces and found in the channel menu on the new P3.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2002 on: August 25, 2021, 06:17:57 pm »
Hey all,

I was in another thread talking about this. Reached out to a contact i have at siglent....and can confirm its an issue with the update and not any other "reasons"....be it legit adapter or not.

I assume its gonna be fixed.  Seems like just a mistake.

But all in all, the update is decent.  Highly appreciated additional features
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2003 on: August 26, 2021, 11:52:50 am »
How can I see, if the OS V2 update was successful?

The instructios read:

"Confirm the OS updated successfully by observing the system information on the scope. If the software version is 2, the update was successful."

It does not look like this at all on my SDS1104X-E.

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2004 on: August 26, 2021, 12:19:10 pm »
I was wondering this same thing.  THere is no 2 that shows up. Same before or after....

but im apt to believe it worked as ntp functioned and my flash drive led blinked like it did something upon boot
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2005 on: August 26, 2021, 02:25:33 pm »
Is it possible it is same logic  as with first OSV1 install.

At this time I can not test it.

Os version is perhaps in same place (second from leftmost)
As in attached image from OS V1 istall instruction from year 2018


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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2006 on: August 26, 2021, 06:49:10 pm »
I thought it was a reference to the Uboot-OS Version. That's not on the picture from rf-loop though, so it could be different for others. I have not updated the OS before. I guessed that 8.1 was version 1, and by updating the OS I would get 8.2.

Sorry for the bad picture, it's difficult to get focus on the screen, and the print screen button doesn't work here.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2007 on: August 26, 2021, 06:56:59 pm »
I thought it was a reference to the Uboot-OS Version. That's not on the picture from rf-loop though, so it could be different for others. I have not updated the OS before. I guessed that 8.1 was version 1, and by updating the OS I would get 8.2.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2008 on: August 26, 2021, 09:22:11 pm »
Ok, my Uboot-OS Version is displayed as 8.2 after the V2 OS update.
I guess, that the update did work then...


@rf-loop: FW 7.0.6.1.25R1???
I am not aware, that there is FW starting with 7. for the SDS1104X-E.
So far, the current ones start with 6.
How is that?

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2009 on: August 26, 2021, 11:17:41 pm »
I hope they also remember their little brother 1202x-e ...   :-//
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2010 on: August 27, 2021, 01:28:51 am »
Ok, my Uboot-OS Version is displayed as 8.2 after the V2 OS update.
I guess, that the update did work then...


@rf-loop: FW 7.0.6.1.25R1???
I am not aware, that there is FW starting with 7. for the SDS1104X-E.
So far, the current ones start with 6.
How is that?

Chris

Just do not care this first number. Different positions, different meaning.
In old system all was in one row. Today Uboot OS version is separated to own row. But numbering logic is same.
Position 2 is OS version. First two was U Boot OS Version.
After then come "FW" version. It was in old system.

This is why we mostly talk FW version as example 6.1.25R1 etc... (what also produce some confusion because before this there was also two other number separated with dot.)

Today it is displayed differently and first two numbers (U Boot OS Version) are displayed in own row: as example 8.1
Logic is same. Second number is OS vers. (as can see here OS version is 1)
Now after successful update to V2  there may read 8.2
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2011 on: August 27, 2021, 10:41:11 am »
New User manual which includes chapters on the recently added features ... NTP etc.
https://int.siglent.com/u_file/document/SDS1000X_E_SDS1000X_U_UserManual_EN.pdf
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2012 on: August 27, 2021, 01:29:01 pm »
Will the new OS/firmware maintain my "upgrade"  of my SDS1104X-E to a SDS1204X-E?

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2013 on: August 27, 2021, 02:20:21 pm »
Will the new OS/firmware maintain my "upgrade"  of my SDS1104X-E to a SDS1204X-E?

My 1104 still has a bandwidth of approx 270MHz after OS update.

Also version is at 7.2, which was 7.1 before update.

Unfortunately I've lost my WiFi dongle, so can't confirm other findings on WiFi issue.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2014 on: August 28, 2021, 03:26:00 pm »
I like the NTP support -  syncing date and time from an NTP server (google will find ip addresses of NIST NTP servers). It can automatically sync at power up and at intervals thereafter (not shorter than 1 hour)

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2015 on: August 28, 2021, 09:39:46 pm »
I hope they also remember their little brother 1202x-e ...   :-//

That would be nice.  There has not been a firmware update for the 1202X-E for some time. 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2016 on: August 29, 2021, 10:19:03 am »
I upgraded to latest 6.1.37R2 firmware.

But I can't for my life get it to upgrade to OS version 2. Tried every USB stick I have. Still says Uboot-OS version 8.1.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2017 on: August 29, 2021, 10:22:50 am »
I upgraded to latest 6.1.37R2 firmware.

But I can't for my life get it to upgrade to OS version 2. Tried every USB stick I have. Still says Uboot-OS version 8.1.

Are you using an 8GB or 32GB drive as suggested in notes?

Are the update files in the root folder?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2018 on: August 29, 2021, 10:40:28 am »

Are you using an 8GB or 32GB drive as suggested in notes?

Are the update files in the root folder?

I finally managed it with another USB drive that I found (that was 16 GB). The other ones I tried previously were 4, 8 and 16. I have no idea why it didn't work with them. Tried formatting and all. But thanks. I guess I had to mention it in the forum before it worked  |O  :D
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2019 on: August 29, 2021, 05:47:02 pm »
I upgraded to latest 6.1.37R2 firmware.

But I can't for my life get it to upgrade to OS version 2. Tried every USB stick I have. Still says Uboot-OS version 8.1.

I had the same problem, finally I got a 2gb stick to work with. (Before that I tried 16GB and 8GB).
It is also important that all files must be in the root directory. (Only unpacking into the root directory did not work for me).
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2020 on: August 30, 2021, 06:09:03 am »
I upgraded to latest 6.1.37R2 firmware.

But I can't for my life get it to upgrade to OS version 2. Tried every USB stick I have. Still says Uboot-OS version 8.1.

I had the same problem, finally I got a 2gb stick to work with. (Before that I tried 16GB and 8GB).
It is also important that all files must be in the root directory. (Only unpacking into the root directory did not work for me).

When you unzip folder SDS1xx4X-E_OSV2_EN.zip to USB root, did you get
result where USB root directory have 5  files in root directory or just unzipped folder in USB root.
If so of course it fails. Update procedure read files directly from root, not from some folder in root.

USB root need have exactly these four files (if there is also instructions pdf file it do not matter):

uImage
sds1004x_e_udiskEnv.txt
rootfs.cramfs
devicetree.dtb

USB stick need be in native FAT32 format  and just one partition and non bootable.

I have always used genuine Kingston 8GB  SE9 USB2.0 (I have couple of these reserved for only for this purpose, bacause I do work, not playing fun). (Older time also have used 2G and 4G)
Native FAT32 4k cluster format (format done under windows diskpart what also can easy delete any boot etc hassle from USB)
This have worked rock solid with every single older or more new Siglent instruments, never have any single failure in any kind kind of update, and I have done these bit more than many, over 10 years)

Perhaps Siglent need do bit better and more perfect and detailed these instructions. (if anyone even read these because fashion is... first do then think)
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2021 on: September 03, 2021, 10:49:33 am »
For sure it seems WiFi is broken and can confirm others findings.  :(
Reported.
WiFi fix will soon be available for public download but sorry no official release date yet.  :(
Edit screenshot updated.

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2022 on: September 03, 2021, 09:50:51 pm »
I updated the OS and the firmware and I'm not sure if the OS update worked correctly. I inserted a USB flash with all the files in the root directory and restarted the oscilloscope, but it looked like nothing happened during the restart.

I attached the versions after the updates. Do these version indicate a successful update?

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2023 on: September 03, 2021, 09:56:05 pm »
I updated the OS and the firmware and I'm not sure if the OS update worked correctly. I inserted a USB flash with all the files in the root directory and restarted the oscilloscope, but it looked like nothing happened during the restart.

I attached the versions after the updates. Do these version indicate a successful update?
No.
See blurpy's reply:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/msg3648412/#msg3648412
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #2024 on: September 03, 2021, 10:00:44 pm »
I updated the OS and the firmware and I'm not sure if the OS update worked correctly. I inserted a USB flash with all the files in the root directory and restarted the oscilloscope, but it looked like nothing happened during the restart.

I attached the versions after the updates. Do these version indicate a successful update?
No.
See blurpy's reply:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/msg3648412/#msg3648412
I tried to downgrade the OS version to the previous one and it showed 7.1. Then I installed the new OS again and it shows 7.2 again.


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