If people want to spend their money on 2kW hair dryers or 1000cc motorbikes and the fuel for them then regardless of me agreeing with their choice I defend their right to choose.
BTW I happen to have a 1000cc motorbike and it is f**king awesome.....
The miserablist pricks of the world who don't have 1000cc motorbikes feel better about it when no one else is allowed to have one.
You didn't read the comments explaining the limit on vacuum cleaner power, which also explain why you don't really need a 2300W hairdryer when most of the world copes with 900W just fineMissing the point. The world copes just fine without such nitpicking intrusive egomaniacal regulation. Especially when the whole premise of such restrictions is based on the false (actually fraudulent) premise of AGW.
No shortage of hot water either but I'm rather pleased I don't have to stand around waiting twice as long to make it.When did we start talking about heating water? Is this to do with kettles?
I sometimes dry my hair with a 3kW fan heater - nothing goes wrong. There is nothing to go wrong with a high powered hair dryer anymore than there is to go wrong using two half powered ones. The more power the faster it gets the job done.Fallacy. I have used ~1000-1200W hair dryers that I had to hold farther away because it generated too much heat to be useful in close proximity.
Fallacy because you have used some crap high power hair driers?
Perhaps Mr Coray quoted in the Telegraph article who makes his living drying people's hair knows better. He likes his 2.1kW driers and sums up with "The more powerful, the faster the blow dry – it’s as simple as that.”
Power. 2?000 watts – recommended if you’re looking for a hair dryer that heats well with a sufficient airflow to dry your hair fast.
The power of hair dryers ranges from 1300 to 2200 watts. Please note that it’s not advisable to rush towards the most powerful models: if it’s for everyday use, you should be careful as unnecessarily powerful dryers might damage your hair or even irritate your scalp.
The temperature of the hair dryer. If it’s hot, it means its resistance is depleted and thus might overheat or even damage the hair.
It must be said that DC Motors are manufactured in China and AC Motors in Italy, which says it all in terms of quality. Therefore they cannot be compared knowing that a 1600 Watt AC is equivalent to a 2000 Watt DC.
But, he is just some ignorant member of the general public. He needs someone smart and informed like you to tell him it is a fallacy and that SOMETHING IS WRONG even though he and his customers have managed not to notice it.
What the more rabidly right wing contributors to this thread seem incapable of understanding is that the world is not divided exclusively into lovers of freedom and 'miserabilists'. I too have owned powerful motorcycles and enjoyed riding them.
But where do you draw the line with this 'freedom'?
What the more rabidly right wing contributors to this thread seem incapable of understanding is that the world is not divided exclusively into lovers of freedom and 'miserabilists'. I too have owned powerful motorcycles and enjoyed riding them.
But where do you draw the line with this 'freedom'?
Very good point. Freedom is not a binary feature and there is actually a continuum with freedom on one end and oppression on the other. Some people try to push the needle toward more freedom and some toward more oppression. This is how you get the division into the two camps.
Hopefully freedom will prevail.
Leaving the EU is one way in which Britons can increase their freedom.
But, he is just some ignorant member of the general public. He needs someone smart and informed like you to tell him it is a fallacy and that SOMETHING IS WRONG even though he and his customers have managed not to notice it.
Fallacy because you have used some crap high power hair driers?Fallacy because a crap high-power hair dryer can't put out more heat than a quality high-power hair dryer.
<snip> irrelevant stuff about being able to find crap on the internet.
What the more rabidly right wing contributors to this thread seem incapable of understanding is that the world is not divided exclusively into lovers of freedom and 'miserabilists'. I too have owned powerful motorcycles and enjoyed riding them.
But where do you draw the line with this 'freedom'?
Very good point. Freedom is not a binary feature and there is actually a continuum with freedom on one end and oppression on the other. Some people try to push the needle toward more freedom and some toward more oppression. This is how you get the division into the two camps. Hopefully freedom will prevail.
Leaving the EU is one way in which Britons can increase their freedom.
This shows to some degree that you are trying to shove your american centric concept of "Freedom" down everybody's throat.
One reality in Europe is that we are somewhat energy poor.
As Europeans, our governments will have to continue groveling to the Gulf states, Russia and America until we gain this freedom.
And this far more important than the freedom to burn my head of with a leafblower/heat gun combo.
They can always find someone to say what they want. It reminds me of the time when the EU said that bottled water couldn't claim to cure dehydration, and they managed to find a few doctors who apparently hadn't read the ruling to condemn it.
Rather than making ludicrous and unsubstantiated claims, could you point to a single scientific body with national or international standing which holds the phenomenon of anthropogenic global warming to be either false or fraudulent?
In case it needs to be spelt out, this excludes denialist propaganda factories such as the National Center for Public Policy Research.
Do you object to this kind of regulation?
...Clearly there is a need for it as your own ignorance on this issue has demonstrated.
As Europeans, our governments will have to continue groveling to the Gulf states, Russia and America until we gain this freedom.
And this far more important than the freedom to burn my head of with a leafblower/heat gun combo.
Nice play on words. It's the old its-for-your-own-benefit argument.
[And for the very same reason I object to people buying gasguzzlers. Their little appendage replacement mobile reduces the energy freedoom of the whole continent.
Freedom is my president being able to say "Fuck You" to Putin and telling him where he can put his gas.
In fact, you are so pushy for the so-called "freedom to waste energy and dig our trade deficit" that I would not be surprised you work for Gazprom, a speculative fund, BP, Exon, or have a closet wish to do so.
Liberty, as a concept, cannot be absolute;
Liberty, as a concept, cannot be absolute;
It doesn't have to be absolute, just push the needle toward more freedom, not toward more oppression as this EU regulation does.
[It doesn't have to be absolute, just push the needle toward more freedom, not toward more oppression as this EU regulation does.
Getting back to hair driers, those cheering the 'ban it' mentality still aren't addressing the point that if you force people to use lower powered dryers, then the driers will just be used for longer. Basic physics - it takes a fixed number of joules to convert a set amount of water (in the hair) to vapor (in the air). Since the goal of someone using a hairdryer is to dry their hair, they'll just keep going until it is dry. So with a low power dryer they will simply use it for longer, with the same total energy use.
More power will mean you either have it further away to mix with cold ambient air or you are making your hair brittle.
We have our own issues with attacks on personal liberty. I mentioned earlier the example of the soda cup size limit. In another example, my supermarket is not allowed to give or sell me a plastic bag with handles.
Same is probably true to some extent with vacuum cleaners. Less suck = more running it back and forth on the carpet. The 'less power --> longer use resulting in similar total energy consumption' relationship is probably more fuzzy (fluffy? cat-furred?) than with hair dryers. Conceivably the total energy consumption for a given cleaning job could even be higher with a less powerful vacuum cleaner. The banning mentality never takes the law of unintended consequences into account.