Push feeders are OK IF they work reliably. I do wonder about how well they work with thin plastic tapes, which are extremely sensitive to any jarring that can bounce parts out.
It would be nice to have provision for a few "real" feeders for jobs where a large number of the same parts are being placed.Had their earlier machine. The push feeder is just d**ks. Leading tape snapping (only 3 level of tightness adjustment) pushing not consistent, mechanism is just fiddly. I spent most of the time trying to get the feeder just work and it will fail halfway during the job. Gave up and sold it off.
Push feeders are OK IF they work reliably. I do wonder about how well they work with thin plastic tapes, which are extremely sensitive to any jarring that can bounce parts out.
It would be nice to have provision for a few "real" feeders for jobs where a large number of the same parts are being placed.Had their earlier machine. The push feeder is just d**ks. Leading tape snapping (only 3 level of tightness adjustment) pushing not consistent, mechanism is just fiddly. I spent most of the time trying to get the feeder just work and it will fail halfway during the job. Gave up and sold it off.
Seon (unexpected maker) just got a fancy brand new Juki system
Possible Options 3) do some videos at local manufacturers or pcb assemblers. I'd be happy to teach him how our Universal Instruments, MPM , essemtec and Koh Young gear works. I'd be happy to let him run some boards too.
Seon (unexpected maker) just got a fancy brand new Juki system so I'm sure he'd be happy to show off that a bit. There's also a bunch of other people with lines that would be happy to teach how to use them. People manufacturing their own stuff are probably more open to it, as I don't have to worry about time lines from external customers etc.
QuoteSeon (unexpected maker) just got a fancy brand new Juki systemWhat happened to his NEODEN K1830?
Yeah, I've seen factory tours but almost no actual tutorials on how to load a feeder, how to program a component for pnp, how to program the stencil printer, spi etc. I think those would be actually interesting to a broad audience because of you're getting the board assembled by someone else they'll have normal machines not Chinese stuff and you can learn to what some issues with your design, bom, panalisation etc might be. Without working on my line I wouldn't know much about the stencil issues of different parts, the difficulty of feeding certain trim pots, the humidity sensitivity of certain parts, the challenges of tall, very large or tray / tube parts. All this contributes to cost and reliability.
Yet another demo of a non functional Chinese machine isn't that handy to me.
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Thanks!! My workload on the machine will be quite light to be honest. I would say anything between 50 and 400 components on a board, nothing smaller than 0603. IC's are mostly QFN with 0.4m pitch.
Doubt I will exceed runs of more than 20 as it will be used almost exclusively for prototyping. To have the option to so small runs of course is a good thing
Regards, Friedl.
Has anybody tried this machine?
For $3100 it looks very promising.
It comes with ball screw drive and supports proper feeders.
Product height is 50cm, so fitting through doors is not a problem.
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Ok, I took the plunge and bought a YY1. So far so good BUT....
I have found that after selecting a reference component and fiducial, the actual components seem to still be off by quite a bit. I then have to manually adjust each of the ±150 components before running the job.
Is this to be expected?