Of course you are. You are Australian. Every Australian I've talked with about free speech agrees they aren't really free to express themselves while they are in Australia. I'm not saying that isn't also true for people from many other nations, but I've found Australians particularly bothered by this.
Trump's famous interview where he muses about injecting disinfectant to cure COVID is a good example of what I'm talking about.
Of course you are. You are Australian. Every Australian I've talked with about free speech agrees they aren't really free to express themselves while they are in Australia. I'm not saying that isn't also true for people from many other nations, but I've found Australians particularly bothered by this.
At least we not being arrested for hate speech, or the cops knocking on the door to "check your thinking" because you insulted someone
It's correct that we don't have constitutionally protected free speech (or a bill of rights), we do have actually have free speech:
https://www.ag.gov.au/rights-and-protections/human-rights-and-anti-discrimination/human-rights-scrutiny/public-sector-guidance-sheets/right-freedom-opinion-and-expression
But yeah, but we do have some really shitty laws, like being able to lock up journalists, and the whole covid thing, amoung others. But overall, "free speech" is pretty decent here.
Bringing it back to Adams, he has a famous list of hoaxes:
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1631295633138016259
I was really shocked to learn the UK had arrested several times more people for speech violations than Russia, that's truly terrifying that a modern, civilized nation would be doing that. The law is so broad and vague that any one of us could be charged.
Bringing it back to Adams, he has a famous list of hoaxes:
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1631295633138016259
The fact that Scott Adams frames all of these as "hoaxes", despite the fact that many of them are well-documented to be true (including proper context), is bad, but unfortunately what I expect of Adams these days.
For example, yes, Trump on live TV did suggest and tell a medical professional that maybe we should inject bleach to get rid of covid.
The fact that you buy into this, and repeat the "hoax" framing, is disappointing.
You are using this forum to push your own opinions and agenda. Not what I would expect from a good host -- and specifically a host who has the power to determine which threads get locked, which posts deleted, which users banned.
Trump's famous interview where he muses about injecting disinfectant to cure COVID is a good example of what I'm talking about. Here is someone with a huge audience and power casting doubt on the very scientific method that you and I advocate for. It's a classic tactic of trying to make an unqualified, uninformed, & unscientific opinion (Trump's) equal to that of real scientific researchers. That's the kind of testing and questioning that I'm against.I understand, but still disagree.
He was still "musing" or "asking questions", not suggesting people actually do so. "It would be interesting to check that. It sounds interesting to me." (Followed by a shrug. I just reviewed the YT video.)
That is Trump's MO, presumably used to prevent any negative comeback. "Some smart people have said he fiddles with kids. Maybe he does - I don't know." Of course, he says that kind of thing not because anyone has actually said what he purports but to plant the idea, and then reiterates that he's not saying that "but maybe there's something in it".
Specifically to the bleach thing, there is surely a time and place to ask things and suggest things, and when speaking as The Official Word in front of the entire world is surely not it.
Trump is actually a great example of how 'just asking' is really not that at all.
The fact that you buy into this, and repeat the "hoax" framing, is disappointing.I'm at least somewhat trying to keep this thread Scott Adams focussed, unlike most here it seems.
But not once, in 12 years have I ever banned anyone from this forum for having an opinion I don't like.
And do you really think I'm pushing "opinions and agenda" here? Really? You have absolutely no clue how restrained I am on here, nor do you have a clue what my "agenda" is.
How about you actually post something on topic in this thread instead of mind reading me. Another thing Adams teaches BTW, brining it back on topic again. Let's see you actually try...
Besides, if adults are so stupid that when they hear someone talk about injecting disinfectant, go and kill themselves with bleach, I consider it a win for the species: Darwin award worthy. Same goes with cats in microwave ovens, repeated strain injury warnings on keyboards, and so on.
Of course you are. You are Australian. Every Australian I've talked with about free speech agrees they aren't really free to express themselves while they are in Australia. I'm not saying that isn't also true for people from many other nations, but I've found Australians particularly bothered by this.
At least we not being arrested for hate speech, or the cops knocking on the door to "check your thinking" because you insulted someone
It's correct that we don't have constitutionally protected free speech (or a bill of rights), we do have actually have free speech:
https://www.ag.gov.au/rights-and-protections/human-rights-and-anti-discrimination/human-rights-scrutiny/public-sector-guidance-sheets/right-freedom-opinion-and-expression
But yeah, but we do have some really shitty laws, like being able to lock up journalists, and the whole covid thing, amoung others. But overall, "free speech" is pretty decent here.
I was really shocked to learn the UK had arrested several times more people for speech violations than Russia, that's truly terrifying that a modern, civilized nation would be doing that. The law is so broad and vague that any one of us could be charged.
Trump's quote:
Sounds to me he was talking about lung lavage not "injection"
That is IF he knew what he was talking about, I don't know.
Did not mention bleach.
Trump's famous interview where he muses about injecting disinfectant to cure COVID is a good example of what I'm talking about.Bringing it back to Adams, he has a famous list of hoaxes:
https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1631295633138016259
effects.)
An adult man making such a suggestion casts severe doubt on his intelligence.
If the things Mr Trump suggested were possible, they would have been used in the past against other quite dangerous lung infections.
An adult man making such a suggestion casts severe doubt on his intelligence. [(Trump video)]
But Scott Adams is correct when he includes the "bleach" thing in his list of hoaxes.
Besides, if adults are so stupid that when they hear someone talk about injecting disinfectant, go and kill themselves with bleach, I consider it a win for the species: Darwin award worthy. Same goes with cats in microwave ovens, repeated strain injury warnings on keyboards, and so on.
When one quarter to three quarters of accepted peer-reviewed publications end up being retracted or unreproducible or heavily revised, I'm not sure scientists' opinions should be considered to have much more weight; especially if they control any kind of research funding. Money talks, and publishing is necessary for continued grants.
QuoteBack to Adams, he said today that he's had more invites on shows than ever. So apart from his syndication financial "cancelling", he's doing phenomenally well. The tide turned very quickly on that one by the looks of it.
Gosh, wish I could be cancelled like that! Who do I have to piss off?
Somehow I don't think the cat chose to be microwaved...
I would like to see a legitimate, non-Fox Newsish, source for this info please.
But Trump's opinion is not equal, not even close, to that of an expert in the field of study being questioned.It kind of is. Science is truth by majority. The opinion of a single expert is worth just as much as the opinion of a total idiot. Without a reference (= a panel of experts backed by scientific data), you can't say which opinion is closest to the truth. Absolute truth doesn't even exist.
When the single expert is quoting peer reviewed studies and giving his opinion based on that, and the idiot is just making stuff up as he goes along, it's pretty obvious who you should listen to.