You mean:
1) downgrade to version 1.04.04
2) upgrade by "DS5000Update_patch_01_01_04_04_usb.GEL"
3) upgrade to version 1.08.08
He is saying you might be applying the 1.04.04 patch to the 1.04.08 firmware which won't work.
Follow the instructions posted recently here, try again from scratch get rid of whatever files you have. Make sure ethernet cable is unplugged from oscilloscope, in case that is interfering with bootup.
If you are on 1.04.08 and its working then no downgrading/upgrading/etc is needed.
ufff, my MSO has BW 350 MHz :-)
I had to downgrade first....
Cust
My last information was "probably end of january".
Chance to add the bode plot feature?
Once they (rigol EU support) told me clearly, bode will come.
But they did it in may 2019.
Now we got january 2020 and still there´s no update.
Looks like the FW on the North America site was updated within the past few days, but it was updated from 01.01.04.04 to 01.01.04.08. Are they considering 01.01.04.08 the update that was targeted for January?
Can´t believe it:
v00.01.01.04.08 2019/08/02
-Fixed system crashed when clicking Default.
-Fixed 4CH option bug.
-Fixed noise signal captured.
-Improved the measure result updating rate.
-Fixed accurate measurements not updated in ROLL
Old known things...
Yeah, this is very disappointing.
Hello , anybody know if there is a software that can control the AWG in MSO5000 ?
Thank you !
Use python or other software instead, its going to be a better solution IMO. There was a GUI made for DG800 that could potentially be ported if you need UI.
Here is an idea of how it looks (pyvisa):
#disable generator
gen.write(':source1:output1 0')
print(gen.query(':source1:output?'))
#Set generator output 1 voltage/frequency sine wave
gen.write(':source1:volt 1')
gen.write(':source1:freq 1000')
gen.write(':source1:function sin')
gen.write(':source1:voltage:offset 0')
#enable generator output
gen.write(':source1:output1 1')
#normal or precision measurement
gen.write(':measure:mode normal')
gen.write(':measure:source channel1')
#Memory depth
gen.write(':acq:type aver')
gen.write(':acq:averages 4')
gen.write(':acq:mdepth 100k')
print('Settings: ' + gen.query(':source1:apply?'))
gen.write(':measure:source channel1')
Thanks ,
I know about pyvisa aproach .I used it for a FFT on Rigol DS2000. In fact if we combine this two and a some UI we can create a FRA app .
Next step, port the code to QT and integrate into MSO 5000 firmware ...
The reality is that Rigol has launched this new line of scopes without a proper PC software applications that can use new functions aboard on this .
Thanks ,
I know about pyvisa aproach .I used it for a FFT on Rigol DS2000. In fact if we combine this two and a some UI we can create a FRA app .
Next step, port the code to QT and integrate into MSO 5000 firmware ...
The reality is that Rigol has launched this new line of scopes without a proper PC software applications that can use new functions aboard on this .
All of their PC software is garbage IMO. I wouldn't expect anything less.
Their SCPI however, is incredibly well documented, broad, and for the most part works.
I agree there is potential for FRA, bode plots, quadrature modulation (?), etc. which can be more convenient to do in a single instrument. I'm working on a board to amplify the 2 channel gen to 2x the current voltage, but there are many more things you could think of to do with 2 outputs and 4 inputs. Another idea I have is measuring one channel current and one voltage.
I received my MSO5074 and immediately upgraded it, many thanks to everyone involved.
All of their PC software is garbage IMO. I wouldn't expect anything less.
Their SCPI however, is incredibly well documented, broad, and for the most part works.
I agree there is potential for FRA, bode plots, quadrature modulation (?), etc. which can be more convenient to do in a single instrument. I'm working on a board to amplify the 2 channel gen to 2x the current voltage, but there are many more things you could think of to do with 2 outputs and 4 inputs. Another idea I have is measuring one channel current and one voltage.
Yes I agree, their software is far better from usefull ...
I was done a capture component in NILAB, using their instructions in Programing Manual and is displaying waveforms faster than Ultrascope . Keysight also with their Benchvue is displaying waveforms very slow .
About Python , the script I used for FFT used NumPy if I remeber well . I don't know if will work now on Windows 10 ...
It was from here :
http://www.righto.com/2013/07/rigol-oscilloscope-hacks-with-python.html
Guys, I have a question, please check the attached photos from the built-in oscillator for the probe compensation. It is straight Auto trigger, no averaging etc. Do you think I have more noise than usual or is it normal? I feel like the flat portion of the signal(high signal) have a bit more noise than I expected? (first photo is with 1x compensation on the physical probe and second photo is 10x)
10x hast higher bandwith.. than 1x so Looks decent for me...
Maybe some noise on your bench ?
yeah, you're right, it gets better if I move it away from the bench. Probably picking up high frequency noise from several switching power supplies. it gets a lot better if I use an extension alligator clip instead of directly hooking up the probe to the oscilloscope, so maybe it is picking up some noise from there too. thanks for the screenshots, I am relieved I don't have a lemon
Good day! I want to thank everyone who took part in this megaproject, primarily mabl, tv84, oliv3r and other wonderful people.
I purchased my MSO5074 by promoaction in China and got it already completely open with all options and a 350 MHz BW, and I didn’t even have to crack it. I made a backcup of the /rigol/data directory and the 8 kB FRAM memory and backup of the full NAND using utilities by tv84 and everything turned out great!
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hacking-the-rigol-mso5000-series-oscilloscopes/msg2757356/#msg2757356 Backup scripts for Rigol MSO5000 and MSO/DS7000
Attached is a .GEL that does a backup of the /rigol/data directory and the 8 kB FRAM memory. Run as a normal update.
It also does a memdump (450MB) so you should use a USB disk with size >= 512 MB. (Why this one? Because sometimes its useful... )
With /rigol/data and FRAM, we can recreate the scope from scratch (as long as the bootloader is OK).
If anyone tests the script, please report the results and how much time it took.
Edit1: Added a .GEL that does a backup of the full NAND (mt0->mt12). Since the NAND is 1 GB in size, you must be patient! It could take some minutes.
* Rigol_MSO5000_7000_backup_scripts.zip (1.4 kB - downloaded 288 times.)
* Rigol_MSO5000_7000_NAND_backup_scripts.zip (2.1 kB - downloaded 204 times.)
« Last Edit: October 28, 2019, 03:23:02 pm by tv84 »
Then saved the backcup on the PC.
But, still, I have some questions.
For example, if the program of oscilloscope will crash or the instrument will be repaired, how can I write saved backups of FRAM, NAND and / rigol / data back to the device? I rarely had to do this before. Please tell me the steps by step to know to do this. On my PC Windows 7, PuTTY and Ultra Sigma are installed. The scope is connected to a PC via USB, and can be connected via LAN.
For example, if the program of oscilloscope will crash or the instrument will be repaired, how can I write saved backups of FRAM, NAND and / rigol / data back to the device? I rarely had to do this before. Please tell me the steps by step to know to do this. On my PC Windows 7, PuTTY and Ultra Sigma are installed. The scope is connected to a PC via USB, and can be connected via LAN.
You made the backup, that's well done.
Don't worry about the other part. If you are not able to learn how to recover it with the available info in this forum and others, you should not mess with the scope in order to brick it.
Yes, thanks, this is a smart solution. Having a backup, I can always turn to more experienced users for recovery.
Having just sold my Keysight MSO7104B, I'm thinking of a MSO5074. A few questions:
1. What is the serial decode like? Is it hardware or software based? Either way, is it any good?
2. What alternatives, if any, has anyone figured out for the $360 PLA2216 logic probe accessory?
3. Is there still an offer to get official free serial decode options?
Thanks in advance.
Having just sold my Keysight MSO7104B, I'm thinking of a MSO5074. A few questions:
1. What is the serial decode like? Is it hardware or software based? Either way, is it any good?
2. What alternatives, if any, has anyone figured out for the $360 PLA2216 logic probe accessory?
3. Is there still an offer to get official free serial decode options?
Thanks in advance.
The scope in general seems really laggy. With the limited capture depth, I think an important question is what you are trying to do, diagnose bus problems or capture lots of data. Have you looked at saleae logic pro series? I am just tickled pink by these things. The analog + digital capture is great and with USB 3.0 you can stream to the limits of your PC's ability. I resisted buying one of these for a long time, who spends 600 bucks on a USB logic analyzer, etc, but finally did it and I just can't believe how long I made do with my zeroplus and scope's limited abilities... The software is just great. I love it!!!
The Siglent SDS2000X plus looks better to me. I had the MSO5074 and it was very laggy to use, I found it less responsive than the DS1054Z. The display is very dim, even with the new hardware update. Rigol has not released a software update for more than 6-8 months. Minor cosmetic details in the UI that shows a very little care from Rigol for having a professional scope, like the buttons not aligning with the options in the menu (right side of the screen with the right vertical buttons).
Serial decoding trigger seems to be hardware based, as I tested a 45MHz SPI transfer with an infrequent 0xFF packet sent when I pressed a button and it captured every single time, the SDS1104X-E missed a lot and the Keysight 1000X also captured almost every single time. But the display refresh rate of serial decoding is also laggy on the MSO5074, nothing compared to what Keysight scopes can do (real hardware decoding).
I am waiting for the Siglent SDS2104X plus to arrive to test the same 45MHz SPI signal and see if it is better than the SDS1104X-E capturing infrequent packets.
About the screen , everyone complain about , but mine is very bright , I did not feel the need to make it brighter . It was aquired in Octomber 2019 .
The UI is laggy indeed but not so laggy as DS1054 with all 4 channels activated.
Also it does not have a software companion . You need to use Ultra Scope which is not updated for the new series 5x/7x/8x .
You can still get bundle promo until end of march :
https://www.rigolna.com/promos/
Thanks for all replies to my questions.
I own a Salae Logic 8 (not the Pro) so I only have USB2 (not USB3) connectivity but it's enough for my needs. My major disappointment with the Salae products is that they are listen-only, you can't send signals out from them. To get bidirectional features you need something like a Bus Pirate - I own a 3.8 and the instructions are
here The Bus Pirate is cheap but the documentation is scattered to the 4 corners of the internet and learning the UI is one step removed from understanding cuneiform.
I really don't need more than 350 MHz bandwidth and, at $1,000 this looks attractive as a cheap fill in for gap left by the MSO7104B but I do worry that Rigol seems to have abandoned this series with no firmware updates for many months.
Although I do not use a net connection for our workshop or need ultra scope for daily use.
You need to update ultra sigma first before using ultra scope I believe and that has been updated, the ultra sigma recognizes the 5/7 and 8000 series no problem. Worth a try