It would be interesting to compare revenue lost through lost potential license sales versus extra equipment sales due to it being hackable.
I have little doubt that the publicity around the 1052 hack was a net benefit.
Benefit for whom?
IF Rigol uses zero resources to try to counteract published hacks, then it's possibly a win for both current and future owners. Personally, I'd rather have new features in the FW than more security routines.
Lets try to avoid morel/ethical/commercial issues in this tread. keep it clean or at least on topic
For sure Rigol does not like this, but it's all in the game
Some photos of the ATtiny85 placed on the FRAM
Some photos of the ATtiny85 placed on the FRAMI haven't looked closely at an AVR in some time, but is that a mil-spec part (the triangle marking)?
I understand that in the old scopes some options were a huge modules full of custom expensive chips.
But in the modern scopes all is in the hardware (and you already bought it and paid for it). Maybe its the time to stop outdated model of selling you the car with three forward gears and demanding huge premium for fourth and fifth to let you go to a highway.
People are not stupid, they know they have everything already installed and they want to use it.
Looking at console hacking I bet that Rigol will have a hard time even with very complicated anti-hacking security in their products.
Any delay to FW development will be more than offset by the benefit that users receive from this.
All depends on Rigol market policy, if they dont make any profit anymore on the DS2000,
they leave it. Just sell out your stock and jump to the next. problem solved ( maybe the S series )
There is no need for more R&D on security, much to expensive.
So if there will be an update it will be the last...!!!
Pretending that there might be no ramifications just seems rather naïve.
I don't know why you are being so cagey about this. Aside from anything else the cat is well out of the bag now, with the method to reset the trial options being easily discoverable via Google. In fact you should prefer people using that method because it doesn't give them a free bandwidth upgrade.
In fact you should prefer people using that method because it doesn't give them a free bandwidth upgrade.
Cagey?
1) Less than a week after getting the DS2000, I figured out how to restart the minutes - it's not rocket science.
2) Any owner that has joined us in the forum and posted a couple of times - and then asked any of the older members about restarting the trials (if they couldn't figure it out themselves) has gotten the info.You didn't answer my PM. I had to figure it out myself.
Personally I think spending any time on security is a waste. They should just accept that once sold people are going to hack their equipment, but any commercial body will still just buy their options and be done with it. Licensing sounds wonderful on paper but never works properly in real life.
I just got my DS2072 and now it's fully potted!
As you point out the pastebin thing is worthless. I was simply referring to the fact that it is well known that once you have such a code you can use it as many times as you like by re-running the self Cal or firmware update. As I said, this information is just a Google search away, that horse bolted long ago.
Yeah, I don't really care for this moral/ethics debate, as it will amount to nothing in the end. I feel that elitism may be at work in this debate. When the information was given away publicly (Studio25 and Orange), others were stripped of their "judgements" of who gets the information and who doesn't (a.k.a. elitism). I asked Marmad too, but I asked under the assumption that it would amount to nothing. In other words, I was too sharp to think Marmad would deem me acceptable to receive any information regarding how to reset trial options. I mean honestly, what do you need, a picture of me holding the receipt? This isn't about teenagers using pastebin for "shits n' giggles." Elitism, it's a simple word, and it's surely at play. I wish it weren't true.
The worse is that (...); the thing is that all the owners will also suffer, even those that never hacked it