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Projects, Designs, and Technical Stuff / Re: Heated Ferrite == Useless Ferrite
« Last post by mag_therm on Today at 11:17:18 am »Refer to Fair-Rite "Product Life"
When re-using salvaged cores, it might be necessary to know at least whether it was a MnZn ( low freq, power transformer etc), or Ni Zn (high Freq)
Both types can be damaged by excess magnetic field strength H swing and mechanical stress , NiZn may be more susceptible to those.
Both types should recover after being heated above Curie Temperature.
MnZn Cores usually work most efficiently at around 90 C There are graphs for the material types showing this. So design for 70 to 80 C helps counteract thermal runaway effects.
For hobby here I have hand wound about 20 power transformers, and inductors using surplus (new old stock) MnZn cores from electronics surplus suppliers.
For components in the 10's MHz range needing NiZn I would always buy new cores. I have had good success just using basic design methods although some I have done with FEM.
I hav e FairRite Type 61 toroids running at 14MHz as power transformers for ham radio. They run too hot to touch, and they are efficient enough. It is a bit difficult to measure temperature and performance in situ at that frequency.
If a new core set is around $2 I wonder why salvage attempts would be worthwhile.
When re-using salvaged cores, it might be necessary to know at least whether it was a MnZn ( low freq, power transformer etc), or Ni Zn (high Freq)
Both types can be damaged by excess magnetic field strength H swing and mechanical stress , NiZn may be more susceptible to those.
Both types should recover after being heated above Curie Temperature.
MnZn Cores usually work most efficiently at around 90 C There are graphs for the material types showing this. So design for 70 to 80 C helps counteract thermal runaway effects.
For hobby here I have hand wound about 20 power transformers, and inductors using surplus (new old stock) MnZn cores from electronics surplus suppliers.
For components in the 10's MHz range needing NiZn I would always buy new cores. I have had good success just using basic design methods although some I have done with FEM.
I hav e FairRite Type 61 toroids running at 14MHz as power transformers for ham radio. They run too hot to touch, and they are efficient enough. It is a bit difficult to measure temperature and performance in situ at that frequency.
If a new core set is around $2 I wonder why salvage attempts would be worthwhile.