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Offline madires

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #125 on: June 10, 2018, 01:22:20 am »
Are you talking about IP or boxes?

Products, NOT IP.

Just like in SAM Controllers, we embed this capability into products. It is very valuable to have this computing power. People pay us to do this, which is why we do not need investors.

Then I don't understand why 3DFS don't provide proper datasheets.
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #126 on: June 10, 2018, 01:29:48 am »
and we can start talking about how Real-Time Computing transforms air compressors and water pumps.

How about talking about the technical things you've been asked multiple times but haven't responded to? I don't think your claim at being an EE holds up.

After 123 posts, do you think you have any credibility? Every evasive and "witty" post just causes it to go down.

I never claimed to be an EE.

What I see here is a lack of understanding of why clean power is better than unclean power. If you guys do not understand that, I am not the guy to explain it.

If you understand that, then I have the technology that does it.

Technical details have been CLEARLY explained. Computing, Flash Energy Storage, Synchronization.

LOL .. this thread is becoming entertaining rather than tech discussion.  :-DD

Not an EE but insults the EE crowds here that they're not smart enough to understand it.

This clearly a SCAM ...

Its like selling a battery, claimed that its clean energy, using clean chemical that wont leak or contaminate the earth, ok, thats fine.

But when few EEs starting to ask innocently like what voltage the battery produces ? Watt hour ? Discharge current capability ? Charge speed ? etc ... then again, he insults all of us that are stupid not to understand the jargon words "clean" - "no leak" ... etc. While keep pretending never read those "again" innocent & sincere questions about the technical aspects that MUST be answered by numbers like volt, watt hour and etc.

Unbelievable.  :palm:

Are you have any relative with Andrea Rossi ? The one who invented the e-cat thingie ?  :-DD
 
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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #127 on: June 10, 2018, 01:33:28 am »
What I see here is a lack of understanding of why clean power is better than unclean power. If you guys do not understand that, I am not the guy to explain it.

If you understand that, then I have the technology that does it.

Technical details have been CLEARLY explained. Computing, Flash Energy Storage, Synchronization.

What we like to know is how 3DFS's technology is cleaning up power. The few superficial terms we've heard aren't very helpful. It's like the sales assistant of a car dealership telling us that the car has a steering wheel, four wheels and a motor. Engineers apply technology to solve problems. One has to understand a technology to do this properly.
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #128 on: June 10, 2018, 01:33:44 am »
and we can start talking about how Real-Time Computing transforms air compressors and water pumps.

How about talking about the technical things you've been asked multiple times but haven't responded to? I don't think your claim at being an EE holds up.

After 123 posts, do you think you have any credibility? Every evasive and "witty" post just causes it to go down.

I never claimed to be an EE.

What I see here is a lack of understanding of why clean power is better than unclean power. If you guys do not understand that, I am not the guy to explain it.

If you understand that, then I have the technology that does it.

Technical details have been CLEARLY explained. Computing, Flash Energy Storage, Synchronization.

LOL .. this thread is becoming entertaining rather than tech discussion.  :-DD

Not an EE but insults the EE crowds here that they're not smart enough to understand it.

This clearly a SCAM ...

Its like selling a battery, claimed that its clean energy, using clean chemical that wont leak or contaminate the earth, ok, thats fine.

But when few EEs starting to ask innocently like what voltage the battery produces ? Watt hour ? Discharge current capability ? Charge speed ? etc ... then again, he insults all of us that are stupid not to understand the jargon words "clean" - "no leak" ... etc. While keep pretending never read those "again" innocent & sincere questions about the technical aspects that MUST be answered by numbers like volt, watt hour and etc.

Unbelievable.  :palm:

Are you have any relative with Andrea Rossi ? The one who invented the e-cat thingie ?  :-DD


Let's talk about how you brilliant EEs manage batteries. GREAT! :box:

Batteries are chemistry, yet the capacity and performance is managed by sensing current, voltage and temperature over time....  :palm:

Which of these is a chemical sensor?  :-//

There are none, which means we presently measure batteries using second derivatives of battery chemistry.  :wtf:

With Real-Time computing, we perform Real-Time chemistry modeling so that we can manage batteries knowing their TRUE capacity.
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #129 on: June 10, 2018, 01:33:51 am »

What I see here is a lack of understanding of why clean power is better than unclean power. If you guys do not understand that, I am not the guy to explain it.

Here you are saying a true thing. The thing to understand is that you are talking to a roomful of skeptical EEs (note: there is no other kind), some of whom have spent their careers in power and power conversion. If you cannot explain it in terms they understand, then you need to find someone in your organization who can.

You seem to be working under the assumption that the people questioning you here must not be very bright, or do not understand electricity, and I can assure you, that is very, very wrong. This is not a forum of journalists or CEOs. These are engineers.

Technical details have been CLEARLY explained. Computing, Flash Energy Storage, Synchronization.

No, they have been FUZZILY explained, not using normal terms of art, not providing data, graphs, measurements, block diagram, examples. Imagine you are teaching a class on your power optimization to a roomful of undergraduate engineering students. You have 90 minutes. What is in your slide deck?
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #130 on: June 10, 2018, 01:35:11 am »
What I see here is a lack of understanding of why clean power is better than unclean power. If you guys do not understand that, I am not the guy to explain it.

If you understand that, then I have the technology that does it.

Technical details have been CLEARLY explained. Computing, Flash Energy Storage, Synchronization.

What we like to know is how 3DFS's technology is cleaning up power. The few superficial terms we've heard aren't very helpful. It's like the sales assistant of a car dealership telling us that the car has a steering wheel, four wheels and a motor. Engineers apply technology to solve problems. One has to understand a technology to do this properly.

We are cleaning up the power at the panel level which distributes perfect power to all the loads. This is done through the Flash Energy Storage System.  |O
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #131 on: June 10, 2018, 01:40:50 am »
What I see here is a lack of understanding of why clean power is better than unclean power. If you guys do not understand that, I am not the guy to explain it.
Now THAT is the accusation of a desperate marketing spin doctor!

NOBODY here will dispute the preference for "clean power" over "unclean power" and for you to throw THIS straw man into the discussion really, REALLY, REALLY stinks to high heaven.


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If you understand that, then I have the technology that does it.
So you say.

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Technical details have been CLEARLY explained. Computing, Flash Energy Storage, Synchronization.
You've used words.  They are not clear.  They are not precise.  They are furry and fuzzy.  We want numbers.

We would like you to start out by QUANTIFYING the problem.  Numbers please!  Graphics!  There is nothing new under the sun here.  People working in the power industry today, 10 years ago, 25 years ago or more will understand these numbers - and so will half of the general membership.  You don't need to get all technical about computer correction algorithms - just spell it out.

The show us some numbers and graphics demonstrating what your product does.


If you can't do that, then you're the wrong person to be championing this system on the EEVblog.
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #132 on: June 10, 2018, 01:42:13 am »
What I see here is a lack of understanding of why clean power is better than unclean power. If you guys do not understand that, I am not the guy to explain it.

What a ridiculous statement. Obviously people understand why clean power is better than unclean power.

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If you understand that, then I have the technology that does it.

Some people seem to agree.

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Technical details have been CLEARLY explained. Computing, Flash Energy Storage, Synchronization.

Three concepts does not equal technical detail.

Explain why someone should buy your product over a competitor's. What EXACTLY is your patented invention, not the product that uses it? Do you understand the difference? I'm becoming more convinced your have no idea what your company's patent says nor what a patent is.
Tell me it can't be done and I'll do it. Or die trying.
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #133 on: June 10, 2018, 01:46:11 am »
We are cleaning up the power at the panel level which distributes perfect power to all the loads. This is done through the Flash Energy Storage System.  |O

Wow. You may understand the purpose but you sure as hell have absolutely no idea at all how your product works and what is so novel that it merits patent protection.
Tell me it can't be done and I'll do it. Or die trying.
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #134 on: June 10, 2018, 01:47:19 am »
What I see here is a lack of understanding of why clean power is better than unclean power. If you guys do not understand that, I am not the guy to explain it.

What a ridiculous statement. Obviously people understand why clean power is better than unclean power.

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If you understand that, then I have the technology that does it.

Some people seem to agree.

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Technical details have been CLEARLY explained. Computing, Flash Energy Storage, Synchronization.

Three concepts does not equal technical detail.

Explain why someone should buy your product over a competitor's. What EXACTLY is your patented invention, not the product that uses it? Do you understand the difference? I'm becoming more convinced your have no idea what your company's patent says nor what a patent is.


Is it that you guys do not understand the benefit of AC electricity synchronization?

Here are some videos... vimeo.com/3dfs
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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #135 on: June 10, 2018, 01:49:22 am »
Is it that you guys do not understand the benefit of AC electricity synchronization?

Do you even know what that term means?
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #136 on: June 10, 2018, 01:50:07 am »
Is it that you guys do not understand the benefit of AC electricity synchronization?

Do you even know what that term means?

This is precisely what I am asking you
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #137 on: June 10, 2018, 01:51:37 am »
Is it that you guys do not understand the benefit of AC electricity synchronization?

Do you even know what that term means?

This is precisely what I am asking you
You avoided my question: Do you even know what that term means?
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #138 on: June 10, 2018, 01:51:47 am »
Here are some videos...

"Sorry. This video does not exist."

Love it!  :-DD

Says it all.
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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #139 on: June 10, 2018, 01:52:28 am »
... but I found this absolutely priceless....

 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #140 on: June 10, 2018, 01:53:19 am »
Awww.... Snap.
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #141 on: June 10, 2018, 01:54:51 am »
Thanks for posting a screenshot. Why on earth would you do that? Nudge, nudge. ;)
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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #142 on: June 10, 2018, 01:56:04 am »
Thanks for posting a screenshot. Why on earth would you do that? Nudge, nudge. ;)
A picture is worth a thousand words.   ;D



Time for me to call it a night ... but I have been entertained.
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #143 on: June 10, 2018, 02:11:42 am »
With Real-Time computing, we perform Real-Time chemistry modeling so that we can manage batteries knowing their TRUE capacity.

Nice red herring, but chemistry modeling isn't any different from measuring several values and concluding the battery status based on them (it's just another model).
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #144 on: June 10, 2018, 02:15:40 am »
With Real-Time computing, we perform Real-Time chemistry modeling so that we can manage batteries knowing their TRUE capacity.

Nice red herring, but chemistry modeling isn't any different from measuring several values and concluding the battery status based on them (it's just another model).

In Real-Time?

We can see that a dendrite is starting to grow and stop the charging a microsecond later.

In case you have not figured this out Real-Time is critical whenever sensors are involved. Otherwise you are just guessing.

 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #145 on: June 10, 2018, 02:17:06 am »
I am not a fun of digital AC means electricity.  like having Enron Corporation in your AC means .   :--  electricity costs set by stock prices
Hobby of evil genius      basic knowledge of electronics
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #146 on: June 10, 2018, 02:18:48 am »
We are cleaning up the power at the panel level which distributes perfect power to all the loads. This is done through the Flash Energy Storage System.  |O

You said that 3DFS are selling technology. All I see are buzz words and a very low S/N.
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #147 on: June 10, 2018, 02:30:23 am »
We can see that a dendrite is starting to grow and stop the charging a microsecond later.

In case you have not figured this out Real-Time is critical whenever sensors are involved. Otherwise you are just guessing.

But you're still measuring several values to feed the chemistry model, aren't you?
 

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #148 on: June 10, 2018, 06:47:24 am »
Going is average on tw.

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Re: digital electricity
« Reply #149 on: June 10, 2018, 07:05:38 am »
We can see that a dendrite is starting to grow and stop the charging a microsecond later.

In case you have not figured this out Real-Time is critical whenever sensors are involved. Otherwise you are just guessing.

But you're still measuring several values to feed the chemistry model, aren't you?

Yes several values of course? Not sure the question.
 


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