The real quadro K5000 is not good enough for 3d games (and is expensive) and I really think that a modded gtx 680 (or gtx 670) is the perfect solution to get the functionnality of the quadro AND the 3D games performances of the GTX 680!
How exactly do you figure a K5000 isn't good enough when a GTX680 is? The spec between them is near identical.
The real quadro K5000 is not good enough for 3d games (and is expensive) and I really think that a modded gtx 680 (or gtx 670) is the perfect solution to get the functionnality of the quadro AND the 3D games performances of the GTX 680!
How exactly do you figure a K5000 isn't good enough when a GTX680 is? The spec between them is near identical.I am pretty sure that a quadro card gives framesynced dual output from one card...
I'm pretty sure all Nvidia cards do, going back at least to 8xxx series (I am running an IBM T221 DG1 off an 8800GT with two DVI outputs, and that monitor supposedly requires genlocked inputs).
Vsync is a subtly different issue, and again, I'm pretty sure all Nvidia cards do run vsynced across separate outputs if they are told to run multiple screens as a same frame buffer. Again, on a T221 DG1 ATI cards (4850, cannot use 5xxx+ since they only comne with single DL-DVI outputs) produce tearing along the middle of the screen (genlocked but not vsynced), but Nvidia cards (tried with 8800GT, various 4xx, 580 and 680 cards, quadrified and vanilla, and a Quadro 2000) do not produce the tearing artifact - which implies they all run multiple screens vsynced. So provided you configure your setup correctly, it should work just fine.Plus, I would like to go sli with 2 modded GTX 680 into quadro K5000. But I've read that the quadro just support sli for choosen "complete Workstation" from dell etc... However it may still be possible to do it since they won't be true K5000.
I didn't think Quadro cards came with SLI bridge ports. My Quadro 2000 certainly doesn't.
One thing is for sure, though, two separate cards won't be providing genlocked output, which means they won't be vsynced either.
How, pretty simple, with comparisons:
Have you done some gaming with that monitor?
It's sure that Dual projection Stereo 3D is out off sync with geforce line when using Tridef(up to one frame out of sync) and geforce do not even support dual output S3D via 3D Vision but Quadros support and it's synced. There is no support for 2 screen Surround for nvidia that provides synced signal so that Tridef could be used with SBS mode. Maybe GeForce drivers enables sync when IBM T221 DG1 is connected, like those drivers is going to do with those Sharp based 4K monitors(i think Asus one is allready supported).
K5000 is capable to support synced dual projection with up to 2-way SLI without need of Quadro Sync card, it can output synced Mosaic up to 8 displays. >> http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-scalable-visualization-solutions.html
AMD eyefinity puts out synced signal for expanded screens for fullscreen apps(3840x1080 for example).
How, pretty simple, with comparisons:
I wouldn't be so quick to disregard K5000's gaming performance. The only thing the 680 has on it's side is higher clock speeds, but they are not _that_ much higher. And the GPU core is the same.
How, pretty simple, with comparisons:
I wouldn't be so quick to disregard K5000's gaming performance. The only thing the 680 has on it's side is higher clock speeds, but they are not _that_ much higher. And the GPU core is the same.
Higher clock speed and better power supply...and 350€ for the gtx 680 against 1500€ for the K5000.
For gaming purposes, when the modded GTX 680 does have the quadro functionnality, I do not see any advantages for the real K5000...
I suspect this is a different use case. The difference is that in my setup I am using a single large frame buffer to produce one large desktop across two separate "screens" (which just happen to form a single TFT panel).
In the case of 3D stuff, the frame buffer is probably not the same. Can you configure it as one large "desktop" with one set of 3D images being displayed on columns 1-1920 and the other set on columns 1921-3840?
The only way I can see you getting synced and genlocked frames is by all outputs to screens coming off a single card, i.e. traditional SLI. That allows you to do processing on two cards but the monitor signal all comes out of a single frame buffer and a single vsync. Any more than that requires an external genlock device (QuadroSync mentioned on that page is a separate hardware device).
Depends on what you want to use it for. Evidence thus far shows that at least some of the GL functionality seems to be disabled on hardware level (certain GL primitives are missing, see a dump of glxinfo for Quadrified GTS450 vs. a real Quadro 2000 a few pages back).
Hello everybody,
I'm new on this forum and I would like to thank everybody (and especially gnif) for the mod of geforce GTX 680 to Quadro K5000.
I'm a gamer. I don't want more performance but just one (quadro) functionnality more.
I play games in 3D with the help of nvidia 3D vision on my monitor (input signal 1080P 3D 120Hz).
I would like to do the same but with passive 3D dual projection. I need therefore the option of a quadro K5000 to activate the possibility of passive stereo with 2 projectors connected to the graphic card. Here is the link to the procedure to do passive stereo with a quadro.
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3012/~/how-to-configure-passive-or-dual-pipe-stereo-with-quadro-cards-in-windows-7.
Could someone please confirm that the option is available with a modded GTX 680 to quadro K5000?
Thank you,
Soulnight
Looks like 670 pcb and K5000 are exactly same. Components are same etc. However 3D Vision pro connector is missing. Wonder if soldering this would give this option too...Other difference is that K5000 have soldered power cords and 670 have connectors soldered on board.
Looks like 670 pcb and K5000 are exactly same. Components are same etc. However 3D Vision pro connector is missing. Wonder if soldering this would give this option too...Other difference is that K5000 have soldered power cords and 670 have connectors soldered on board.
Yes but what for? The 3D vision pro is to use with professional application and those do need the performance of a true K5000.
Looks like 670 pcb and K5000 are exactly same. Components are same etc. However 3D Vision pro connector is missing. Wonder if soldering this would give this option too...Other difference is that K5000 have soldered power cords and 670 have connectors soldered on board.
Yes but what for? The 3D vision pro is to use with professional application and those do need the performance of a true K5000.
That's true, i don't need it but someone could like to use RF glasses. It should work with any 3D vision compatible device as well and can be used for gaming like normal 3D vision. IR was not good for my setup, flashes etc and needed looong usb cable but not using this anymore because W1070 is dlp-link and off course goal is passive 3D...
Looks like 670 pcb and K5000 are exactly same. Components are same etc. However 3D Vision pro connector is missing. Wonder if soldering this would give this option too...Other difference is that K5000 have soldered power cords and 670 have connectors soldered on board.
Yes but what for? The 3D vision pro is to use with professional application and those do need the performance of a true K5000.
That's true, i don't need it but someone could like to use RF glasses. It should work with any 3D vision compatible device as well and can be used for gaming like normal 3D vision. IR was not good for my setup, flashes etc and needed looong usb cable but not using this anymore because W1070 is dlp-link and off course goal is passive 3D...
I'm sorry to tell you that but the benq W1070 (great projector) is not so good for the omega filters. It' a DLP: great! But the throw ratio is not big enough (max 1,5:1 with full Zoom) and you will have color uniformity problems with it. Motormann advises a throw ratio of Minimum 1,5:1 and ideally 2:1.
Source: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1407101/official-omega-3d-passive-projection-system-thread/150#post_22927789
I think that if you cannot max out the zoom with yours W1070, you should buy 2 cheap H9500 (2D) which have vertical et horizontal Lenshift and are all together better than the W1070.
I suspect this is a different use case. The difference is that in my setup I am using a single large frame buffer to produce one large desktop across two separate "screens" (which just happen to form a single TFT panel).
In the case of 3D stuff, the frame buffer is probably not the same. Can you configure it as one large "desktop" with one set of 3D images being displayed on columns 1-1920 and the other set on columns 1921-3840?
There is no way to do single wide "desktop" for two monitors and using it for gaming. This is where nVidia surround is needed and it do not support 2 monitors. I can off course do wide desktop or clone one to another.
Sharp 4K based monitors use same large frame trick(1920x2160+1920x2160) as your monitor to achieve 4k 60hz resolution so maybe there is driver enabled "mosaic/surround" for your setup too. Sharp 4k is not supported yet and therefor not work but ASUS(rebranded sharp) work with latest drivers, so driver look up if ASUS is connected and enables "mosaic/surround" support for it.
The only way I can see you getting synced and genlocked frames is by all outputs to screens coming off a single card, i.e. traditional SLI. That allows you to do processing on two cards but the monitor signal all comes out of a single frame buffer and a single vsync. Any more than that requires an external genlock device (QuadroSync mentioned on that page is a separate hardware device).
Link says otherwise, with K5000 you can do synced Mosaic up to 8 screen with SLI OR with Quadro Sync. You can use outputs(limited) from 2 cards when doing Surround with geforces(600 series and up) too and surround is always synced.
Maybe Windows 7 is deficient in this way - I wouldn't know. If it is why would you want to use it?
All I can say is that XP64 and Linux both work wonderfully with this setup.
My situation is that I have IBM T221 and a GTX 590, however, it didn`t support mosaic mode so that cannot give me 3840x2400 decently, thus I had to buy another ATI card which has analogous feature.
K6000 Quadro. http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVIDIA-Unveils-New-Flagship-GPU-for-Visual-Computing-9e3.aspx. 780/TITAN hack needed
K6000 Quadro. http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVIDIA-Unveils-New-Flagship-GPU-for-Visual-Computing-9e3.aspx. 780/TITAN hack needed
YES! A hack of the GTX 780 would be needed indeed... A lot more of horse power for playing with 3D vision in 1080p! Someone?
How are you doing Jager? I'm waiting for you to mod your gtx 670 and to tell me that it work for 3d passiv dual projection with 3d vision you know
Have you bought your second BENQ W1070 yet?