Still I wonder whether anyone can argue leaving the EU is somehow good for the economy of the UK? I don't see it. Companies have already started packing their stuff en masse which means loss of jobs. Ofcourse you can go on ranting about souvereinity, voting for your own politicians, etc but that doesn't put food on the table.
I asked before to name one thing the UK is good at. So far the only significant item on the list seems that London is Europe's financial centre. Isn't that alone something worth keeping? Several cities are already angling to become Europe's new financial centre.
I already gave you a few things in a previous posting.
Selective blindness ?
Theresa May is likely to be the next conservative PM and she is a Remain. Cameron is stepping down because it would be untenable for a Remain to oversee the brexit. Perhaps the tory MPs will come to their senses and vote Andrea Leadsom for the job.
QuoteThey not got banned from the EU. They've decided to leaveI know, but EU didn't make nothing to stop that, and now they put hurry to UK to leave EU as soon as possible.
I don't think it's fair to just kick people out. We need to look to changing future rules. Freedom of movement is one thing, your country being one of the top 3 or 4 out of 28 is another. Te EU is supposed to made up of countries of equal standing, if it is why is it so many aspire to move ?
that is understandable. We have decided to leave, that has consequences and causes uncertainty. Instead of getting on with it and doing what we said we wanted to do we are having civil wars in both major political parties like a bunch of school children. We are making idiots of ourselves.
When I voted to join what was then the EEC I never voted for Political union.1) You didn't vote to join in 1973, you voted on continued membership in 1975.
2) And yes, you voted for political union, you just didn't know it.
3) Neither were the voters in my country told about that when they went to the polling stations in October 1972.
So the UK government should hurry up and leave if that is what they intend to do, not keep everyone in the dark, it's not good for anyone. The sooner that uncertainty can be dispelled the better.It's not a trivial task to work on, meanwhile we are hindered by an abdicating Prime minister and a weak student Marxist pretending to lead an opposition party.
Not sure what you mean by that but perhaps you are referring to Sweden helping many refugees from the middle east who are fleeing to Europe because of the illegal war the UK and the US started there? Thanks a lot. The problem is that some other EU-countries are not taking their share of refugees (like the UK). Only a handful countries that are helping sadly.We were already doing more than the rest of Europe by funding refugee camps in Lebanon and Jordan, which is the only sensible way of dealing with a temporary displacement of people during war. It is really cost efficient and safe, and when the war finishes they can all go home without disrupting anyone else and we'll help fund their rebuilding. Everyone wins.
The insane solution is to suggest they swim across the Mediterranean and perhaps drown, then walk right across Europe, only to end up in some squalid ghetto in Sweden or Germany where they'll probably get raped by some other follower of the religion of peace, and create massive social friction for the resident population for decades to come.
The predictable consequence of Sweden's and Germany's naive actions in this situation has directly led to Brexit.
So thanks for that.
But we have not "decided to leave". The vote was split down the middle, and a 2% margin either way is probably not statistically significant. For that we can blame the people who set up the referendum, who should have insisted on at least 50% of eligible voters, or a 60% majority, or some such.
Notice the guy facepalming after Nigel Farage says no one in the EU parliament have had a real job?
But we have not "decided to leave". The vote was split down the middle, and a 2% margin either way is probably not statistically significant.
For that we can blame the people who set up the referendum, who should have insisted on at least 50% of eligible voters, or a 60% majority, or some such.
But we have not "decided to leave". The vote was split down the middle, and a 2% margin either way is probably not statistically significant.
Notice the guy facepalming after Nigel Farage says no one in the EU parliament have had a real job?I know English is not your main language, being Swedish I imagine you are more fluent in Farsi or Arabic or something. But Farage never said no one in EU parliament ever had a real job, he said most of them. I'm sure he isn't at all wrong. Of course he could also say the same thing about our UK parliament too.
I also find it depressing that somebody who (assisted in some way) Heart Transplant surgery abandons his vocation to become a gravy train MEP. I mean really? I'm glad he's no longer a medic.
that is understandable. We have decided to leave, that has consequences and causes uncertainty. Instead of getting on with it and doing what we said we wanted to do we are having civil wars in both major political parties like a bunch of school children. We are making idiots of ourselves.
But we have not "decided to leave". The vote was split down the middle, and a 2% margin either way is probably not statistically significant. For that we can blame the people who set up the referendum, who should have insisted on at least 50% of eligible voters, or a 60% majority, or some such.
But given that the mess has been created, I think it is fair to take time to figure out how to resolve it in the best way possible. Rushing from one crisis to another rarely leads to a good outcome.
Really! They were fighting before NATO put a plane in the air or a boot on the ground. When it was kuwait the left media and kuwatis and other sympathetic middle eastern countries were screaming for NATO to help so we did. Then Libya the same thing now all this ISIS crap again pleas for help. You realize these people are asking for help in their war? You do know what a war is people get killed cities ruined and such? Just in case you missed the point they were fighting already before NATO did anything. Perhaps if things get bad enough for them maybe they will think twice about conflict in the future.
In reality its a bunch of thugs preying on uneducated easily manipulated fools.
But we have not "decided to leave". The vote was split down the middle, and a 2% margin either way is probably not statistically significant.
Statistics significance is when you predict from a sub sample of the voters. Here you have 100% of the people that voted so it can't be more significant that that.
Finally that '2%' is actually a 4 point lead which in percent terms of Remain voters is an >8% lead. Or do you not know how percentages work? Get your calculator and try 48 x 1.08
Well, those who voted represent a sub-sample of the electorate so it would be possible to calculate an error figure in the vote using statistical means. I can't be bothered (because I'd have to get my stats textbooks out and spend time figuring how to do it) but I suspect it will be less than the margin by which the vote was won.
I bet 20 bucks the Brexit won't actually happen
What the biggest problem was is that the UK contributed much less than they normally would have since they had lots of discounts and special treatments, look at the url that apis posted and look at the Percentage of income statistics, the UK is last. And still they were complaining and blocking stuff in Brussels, well that is now over. So yeah it is not the best outcome but I think in the long end it is better for the EU that only countries participate that 100% want to contribute and participate instead of continuously blocking progress.
And I think that a lot of politicians in the UK that blamed the EU the last years for everything that did not went well in the country have to find a new excuse