Hi
So ....where can you download a legit copy of 7.7? That appears to be the last version that my "perpetual" license applies to. Also, when I need to re-seat that license (due to a computer upgrade) ... how do I regenerate the license stuff?
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Why do I have a feeling I'm not going to be happy about the answers to any Eagle questions from here on out? ....
Bob
Right...I have downloaded version 8 Free and I am greeted with a login window.
Goodbye EAGLE
What I really want to talk about is all of the new features in EAGLE.
Let me know if you guys need anything.
What I really want to talk about is all of the new features in EAGLE.
Hi pa3weg,
You need to have an autodesk account in order to use the freeware. You can get one for free at accounts.autodesk.com. The freeware is still free, everything is just tied to an Autodesk account.
Let me know if there's anything else I can do for you.
Best Regards,
Jorge Garcia
Subscription at a rational price - fine.
License forever at a rational price - fine.
License forever that suddenly goes away when somebody on the other end changes their mind - not so much.
License forever that has no equivalent subscription - not so much.
You need to have an autodesk account in order to use the freeware. You can get one for free at accounts.autodesk.com.
All that and more in just about 3 months, I'm excited to see what will come into EAGLE in the next year. I'm saddened that some of users just immediately react with a "Subscription is evil" response without really trying out the implementation. Hopefully, the above will motivate skeptics to try the new EAGLE and see that subscription isn't enough to demerit all of the other things Autodesk has added to EAGLE.
However, I checked the subscription prices and limitations and I am not willing to pay them. In addition, I do not like the always online requirement nor do I like the requirement to have an account just to use the free version.
4. Files on MY system not on someone else's or in the cloud. Must be able to specify in settings NEVER to save in the cloud only locally.
5. Perceptual ACCESS/Ability to read/write/convert/export my files no matter what.
If it now requires an internet connection in order to work then Eagle is sunk. (Can anyone confirm this for the commercial version?)
However, I checked the subscription prices and limitations and I am not willing to pay them. In addition, I do not like the always online requirement nor do I like the requirement to have an account just to use the free version.
If it now requires an internet connection in order to work then Eagle is sunk. (Can anyone confirm this for the commercial version?)
That's grudgingly an acceptable compromise for a free version, e.g. Autium Circuit Maker does this, but it will still be massively unpopular as has been shown to be the case with Circuit Maker. But it is completely unacceptable for a paid version.
Everybody else will go back to dip trace, or KiCad, etc.
What I am really seeing here is that they are trying to present Eagle as a top shelf professional program which it is not, nor will it ever be. Its just good enough for small companies to use and get things designed. I think they have really made a bad choice. People on the more professional end, our company included will make the decision that if they have to put up with accounts and subscriptions they will step up to one of the bigger better cad packages such as Altium. Everybody else will go back to dip trace, or KiCad, etc. Cadsoft had a nice little niche and I hope they got lots of money but I cant see that product no matter how much they "Improve" it fitting into this kind of model being a long term winner. Electronics is too small of a world for people to not know whats going on. They would have been better off going and developing a whole new system with big boy features and compete with the others for the big company money.
I think we ALL agree that there are many functions and features that are a great improvement. But you are changing the EAGLE market position, and I think you are really underestimating the amount of users that will drop you.
If it now requires an internet connection in order to work then Eagle is sunk. (Can anyone confirm this for the commercial version?)
If it now requires an internet connection in order to work then Eagle is sunk. (Can anyone confirm this for the commercial version?)
That's grudgingly an acceptable compromise for a free version, e.g. Autium Circuit Maker does this, but it will still be massively unpopular as has been shown to be the case with Circuit Maker. But it is completely unacceptable for a paid version.
The biggest pain now, is not just learning KiCad, but recreating all of my libraries made over the last 4+ years.
Hello Everyone,
It's been a long day, and I've been on three different forums talking about the subscription model. If you guys have any questions about it I'm happy to answer.
What I really want to talk about is all of the new features in EAGLE. EAGLE has grown more in the last three months under Autodesk then it did in three years with Farnell. Here's some of the new stuff:
1. Improved manual routing engine, much nicer to use and operate. Incorporates loop removal.
2. Implicit Group, basically EAGLE can now behave the way most new users expect it to. You can define a group and then click and hold to move it, when no command is active EAGLE defaults to Group(Similar to select in other programs).
3. Slice functionality, you introduce a gap into various traces to simplify rework.
4. Designblocks, allows users to save portions of schematic and layout as if it were a library part allowing for easy reuse.
5. Pinsnapping on the schematic guarantees that nets always connect to the pins.
6. BGA Fanout Router, easily breakout complex BGAs.
All that and more in just about 3 months, I'm excited to see what will come into EAGLE in the next year. I'm saddened that some of users just immediately react with a "Subscription is evil" response without really trying out the implementation. Hopefully, the above will motivate skeptics to try the new EAGLE and see that subscription isn't enough to demerit all of the other things Autodesk has added to EAGLE.
Dave,
Now might be a good time for an AmpHour/EEVBlog Video Rant regarding CAD licensing stupidity, as pretty every *every* vendor (excluding KiCAD) seems to get this wrong.