The stability of the political parties is such at the moment that new elections will add to the complexity, I think.So basically the people get to vote again for exit and leave but this time through new elections? I wonder how that works for all the other important economic issues at hand. Did the UK twist it's own arm behind it's back?
If it goes as far as becoming a general election (called early), then in theory (N.B. I'm NO expert in politics and could be wrong) one of the parties (e.g. the main opposition, usually Labour) could offer a second referendum or something. To avoid losing votes, most/all parties could then be forced to do likewise, to avoid losing votes, since about 48% of voters are probably upset by the result.
But I'm speculating, since I'm no expert on politics, and this situation (Brexit), is a fairly new concept, so there is not much past history of similar things here (UK), to go by.
Superficially it sounds as though it could work. The big danger is that in appeasing the remain voters the established parties may induce the outraged leave voters to defect to the fascists. This would be UKIP in the first instance, but they are merely a front for the more organised fascists.
In practice, an election could enable a 'do-over', with no substantial political poison (well, no more than politicians already deal with.)
If, in an election campaign, you have two leading camps - one supporting 'Remain' and the other 'Exit' then whoever wins will be able to claim a mandate to pursue their declared preference ... and they will have the political numbers to follow through.
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The thing is, the EU, and the member countries, DON'T want to interfere with an internal/national UK wide general election. Which is a good thing, so we can decide amongst ourselves, which party and hence leader, we want to take us forward.
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Instead of blaming THEMSELVES and deciding how to improve and solve the issues which the voting public DON'T like.
Something like 13% of the EU's population is British (give or take). Why should the EU adapt to you? What are you offering in return?
There was a referendum and the results are in. To now say, no, we're not going to do it is to say that the election was a fraud, that the opinions of the voters are irrelevant and government knows best.
IMF CEO Christine Lagarde the other day on TV actually accused the UK of being anti-intellectual,...
It's definitely more than 13% of the EU's population who don't like how the EU is run.
There are people in other EU states who are dissatisfied with the EU.
It's just their governments haven't held a referendum about it.
Superficially it sounds as though it could work. The big danger is that in appeasing the remain voters the established parties may induce the outraged leave voters to defect to the fascists. This would be UKIP in the first instance, but they are merely a front for the more organised fascists.
If the EU and/or other EU countries decides to try and put its case forward, to try and swing the 52%:48%, the other way. It could mean we get pressed into choosing a party and hence new prime minister, more based on remain/leave rather than choosing the best one for leading us and running the country for the next 5 years.
It's definitely more than 13% of the EU's population who don't like how the EU is run. There are people in other EU states who are dissatisfied with the EU. It's just their governments haven't held a referendum about it.
Then there are those like myself who voted to remain, even though I have some doubts about the EU.
... Over here we had Wilders in the government for a few months and when things got slightly difficult (oops, there really is no money to hand out for free) he pushed the eject button and we all went to vote again. Fortunately for Wilders he didn't got elected again so he could go back to yelling from the sidelines.
IMF CEO Christine Lagarde the other day on TV actually accused the UK of being anti-intellectual,...Everything that doesn't suit their agenda is called anti-intellectual, stupid, uneducated, low-information,...
In the mean time, "intellectual" became a swear word in my culture, kind of synonym of mis-educated or expensively-useless.
...Also,Scotland was a country in its own right for hundreds of years before the formation of the UK.
If countries which were former victims of Soviet aggression can join the EU,surely that also applies to former victims of English aggression.
Mixing remain/leave into the mixture, messes things up.
E.g. If Conservatives go for Leave, and Labour go for remain, ignoring other parties for now.
If the EU and/or other EU countries decides to try and put its case forward, to try and swing the 52%:48%, the other way. It could mean we get pressed into choosing a party and hence new prime minister, more based on remain/leave rather than choosing the best one for leading us and running the country for the next 5 years.
E.g. Say UKip are the only ones who go for leave, the others go for remain and/or a second referendum. We could end up getting a new prime minister who may not be the primary choice, if given a "normal" election (free of any Brexit stuff).
This Brexit sort of messes things up (muddies the waters), so maybe is NOT the best "cloud" under which to have a general election.
... Over here we had Wilders in the government for a few months and when things got slightly difficult (oops, there really is no money to hand out for free) he pushed the eject button and we all went to vote again. Fortunately for Wilders he didn't got elected again so he could go back to yelling from the sidelines.Why do you spread lies about your country?
Wilders was not in the goverment, but supported that minority goverment.
Wilders pushed the eject button because the others didn't want to keep the pensions for retired people on the same level.
IMF CEO Christine Lagarde the other day on TV actually accused the UK of being anti-intellectual,...Everything that doesn't suit their agenda is called anti-intellectual, stupid, uneducated, low-information,...
In the mean time, "intellectual" became a swear word in my culture, kind of synonym of mis-educated or expensively-useless.
Cameron left a warm turd behind him, and now there is nobody who wants to touch it (If you touch it, you are pretty much doomed. If you don't the smell will get worse). Cameron himself has escaped the responsibility of cleaning his own mess.
Cameron left a warm turd behind him, and now there is nobody who wants to touch it (If you touch it, you are pretty much doomed. If you don't the smell will get worse). Cameron himself has escaped the responsibility of cleaning his own mess.
The UK is full the Spider Captains (Spanish expression that define a person that manipulates and lies to other people for joining a determined action but when the action go to begin , the instigator disappears)
Boris Johnson is not presented as candidate to replace Cameron.
http://www.libertaddigital.com/internacional/europa/2016-06-30/boris-johnson-no-se-presenta-como-candidato-para-sustituir-a-cameron-1276577487/
It's definitely more than 13% of the EU's population who don't like how the EU is run.
There are people in other EU states who are dissatisfied with the EU.That is very likely true, but it is beside the point...
I see BoJo is not standing - perhaps he decided it was too much of a poisoned chalice after all.
Theresa May might be the best candidate to win cross party support. I'm not keen on her record as Home Sec in terms of snooping regulation but she would be in a better position to try to negotiate with the EU. As she fought (some argue luke-warmly) for the Remain campaign but is known to be fairly Euroskeptic she should appeal to both sides of the argument and, most importantly, could negotiate some form of free movement without reneging on any personal promises.
IMF CEO Christine Lagarde the other day on TV actually accused the UK of being anti-intellectual , that was at the end of one of it's talks saying generally that they have done the modeling and studies and have found out that the UK will pay dearly if they leave and it would be madness if they did , their own studies (the IMF) have found out this , so just at the end it said the anti-intellectual comment .
One would have thought to be anti-intellectual against someone or something one would have to be a (the target) intellectual in the 1st place , says the orange fake tan or not hypocrite , they are so far up their own arseholes that they do not see the Shit! imo of course .
I also notice another comment in the posts defending that junker dude about the language use , imo ,, the language used by those types is not a misrepresentation of the English translation used from their native language , i have seen it heard it enough times lately also assuming a translation error but now have decided that there "is" no error in translation (which can happen btw) and they mean what they mean , quite pompas gits imo and very very superior .
I really dislike analyzing those types , normally i do not analyze at all unless something catches my attention , borderline insanity springs to mind there ... with a method .
Your country seems to abandon the Schengen agreement:
Your country seems to abandon the Schengen agreement:Doubtful - unless the agreement simply falls apart by itself. The parliament has a massive pro-EU majority.
Check the video, it reinstated passport control on the border with Germany.
I knew that immigration was an issue but the evidence is that it is generally good for an economy.